@Hombre

Maybe you wouldn't so much. It's advocaat…

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Advocaat I know. I like it, but now I drink Wintervrund = Winterfriend = a Sylvester beer, with a higher ***** % (8,5%). It tastes very good.

Advocaat reminds me of our famous Dutch soccer trainer: Dick Advocaat, who is now at 72 years old trainer of Feijenoord/Rotterdam after the dismissal of Jaap Stam, who failed. Fijenoord is winning again!

Congratulations with FC Liverpool winning the World Cup (with Virgil van Dijk).

Some cards say they have hundreds of Votes but barely show a couple of comments...
Is this from people just giving stars and NOT commenting?

I find it hard to believe...

Examples:
Lucy Li / Saddle Up 0232
4.66 Stars (403 Votes)
BUT I can only count 37 comments with a Star Rating. One doesn't have a Star rating, another is 4.5 stars and one is 2 Stars...
All other35 votes are 5 star votes and I don't understand where the 4.66 rating or 403 Votes come from...

Or Izabella / Temperature's Rising 0824
With a rating of ⭐4.66 (256 Votes)
But I only see 49 comments, (Four are 4.5 stars, Two are 4 stars, one is 2 Stars, and two have no rating but they are very good comments...)
That would be 4.37 average stars, or 4.56 not counting the comments without rating...
I don't know how the rating works but the number of votes ain't equal to the number of comments, and the total number of stars...

Kinda get's me thrown off when looking at cards, or shows...

Hope someone can shed some light on this subject...

Ratings and comments are useful in picking out really broken cards or cards that are better are worse than the others in a set. Some girls always get high ratings...but the highest rated of a set is generally the best overall if there are hundreds of ratings. The lowest rated of the set will often be more boring. For example a girl like Tania R is always rated highly because she is pretty, well proportioned, tattoo free, a good dancer and doesn't do anything "gross", but isn't a prude either. Her highest rated card is the best , and her lowest rated card tends to be a little more boring or subdued. Compare girls to themselves..not other girls.

New card by Angel Sway is now rated 3.39. Grotesque...

The ratings have always been unreliable at best - especially when people who didn't even own the cards were able to vote.

As for the new cards being rated low, I'm certain it's due to the advent calendar, the fact that only a very limited set of customers can actually vote on these cards, and the fact that many people are unhappy with the fact that they got these cards as part of a 'mystery box' kind of promotion.

IMO it's childish to rate models out of spite, but I am not bothered by that. There are more important things out there in the world to devote your attenton to.

especially when people who didn't even own the cards were able to vote.

That I didn't know. Luckily, such a possiblity has been removed.

As for the new cards being rated low, I'm certain it's due to the advent calendar

Of course. But, unfortunately, rates are unreliable in other year times too.

There are more important things out there in the world to devote your attenton to.

Of course, there are also many more important things in the world than Istripper also; but, as being Istripper members, I find we have the right to discuss about it, and such a discussion to make sense.

Customers need to own the card to be able to vote but they don't have to comment to vote.
Unfortunately the typical votes on any cards are either 5s or 0s. Users are using it to say I want more of this or I'm disappointed, there is no in between. We plan to upgrade the rating system to separate the model from its performance and the technical point of view (colors etc) in the near future.

Like someone said, the system has more uses by comparing cards of one model, it has much less use to compare different models. Because it is absolutely unavoidable that people will rate girls more by their preferences of models and much less by the technical and other quality of the card. But it is also very natural way of rating. There will be no objective rating of cards no matter what you do. Because everyone has different tastes and it is impossible to rate cards objectively, because everyone prefers absolutely different things - often opposites. And for example I myself will much rather buy a card of a girl I like with very bad rating instead of a card of a girl I don't like with super rating. It's the same like with the movies, I don't like every super rated movie out there and I like some trash rated movies very much. Objective rating is impossible, because everyone has different tastes and I think the rating here is no worse than ratings on other sites and there is not much what can be done to make it better - it will always be very subjective.

What I would like to see here is to be able to give +/- to comments of cards, to help better distinguish useful comments.

What I would like to see here is to be able to give +/- to comments of cards, to help better distinguish useful comments.

It seems like useful comments are shown first when you view them on the website. I always notice that user zzmaskers comments are almost always shown first in the comments when viewing them on the website and not the program. zzmaskers comments are always full of detail and explains their rating in detail through: Beauty, Outfit, Standing, Pole Dance, and Table. They add them together and then divide by each category to get the overall rating.

The kind of rating and comment detail that zzmaskers has been incredibly helpful and I just wanted to highlight that as the team is taking feedback.

New card by Angel Sway is now rated 3.39. Grotesque...

Exactly my point...

We plan to upgrade the rating system to separate the model from its performance and the technical point of view (colors etc) in the near future.

Thanks for replying and looking into this issue REX!
I'm so glad to be part of this community!

@Rex, thats good to know.

Are the 2 systems going to run together so we can re-rate older cards in the new system (once the the number of new user ratings is high enough the old rating gets deleted), wipe of all ratings (nice and clean way), or just transfer existing ratings to the new system ?

I still don't understand what are you expecting of the new rating system. With people giving 0 rating because "Game the system" any system is useless no matter how sophisticated.

I still don't understand what are you expecting of the new rating system. With people giving 0 rating because "Game the system" any system is useless no matter how sophisticated.

LOL "game the system" was just to do a test, and for me to keep track. As you can't rate cards you don't own you can't actually game the system unless you are doing it for others (this relates to the preview tab which shows cards based on their rating, cards with a higher than x rating are shown) By giving a card a 0 it drops the average and can push it below the x threshold, in practice unless a lot of people did this it doesn't work very well as you only get a 0.01 change at most.

If i am understanding Rex's post there will be seperate ratings for components of the show. There will still be people that rate 0 / 5 but that should even out as the current system does and may encourage some more thought into the rating rather than a blanket 0 because of one fault.

@Z22 For me the technical quality of a card is not important, if I like the model is much more important to me than some technical stuff. And I rate all my cards between 5.0 and 4.0, with very few exceptions getting 3.5-2.0. I never rated any card 0, so I frankly don't understand the motivation for such ratings. Seems like now you will be able to rate technical quality of cards. I am not interested in that, but maybe at least you will be able to rate cards properly from your point of view. But it will be another rating system, so I don't expect it to be any better than the current one.

As i don't base my purchases on others ratings how it affects the preview tab is of more interest.

As i don't base my purchases on others ratings how it affects the preview tab is of more interest.

I noticed that. You are rating cards with the purpose to get certain cards to preview tab. What is so important on which cards go to the preview tab? You are waiting for sale of certain cards?

Th rating system looks innocent, but it isn't. Ratings have far-reaching influence on future sales of model and cards.
Popularity leads to more popularity (only be broken by involuntary recieved cards as result of gambling, Black Friday). Unpopularity leads to more unpopularity.

There is a tipping point, on which the anonymous rates of the collectors have a nearly decisive vote. This can have as consequence that only a certain type of models will be selected. It's like the famous wings of the butterfly, which can cause the beginning of a hurricane (a small something can lead to something very big).

In 2019 112/362 * 100% = 31% were Big Boobs. In 2018 70/358* 100% = 20% Big Boobs.

Is iStripper becoming a Big Boobs site? With more Big Boob models (I have nothing against them!) iStripper will attract more lovers of Big Boobs, who get disappointed, when there are new models who don't have Big Boobs and they rate them down. A vicious circle!

The iStripperteam must look out for ***** from customers who like other type of models. It is for them to dance on a balance cord. Since new models like Isabelle or Sherice are selected, I keep my trust in the wisdom of the choices of the team serving different tastes.

Th rating system looks innocent, but it isn't. Ratings have far-reaching influence on future sales of model and cards.
Popularity leads to more popularity (only be broken by involuntary recieved cards as result of gambling, Black Friday). Unpopularity leads to more unpopularity.

There is a tipping point, on which the anonymous rates of the collectors have a nearly decisive vote. This can have as consequence that only a certain type of models will be selected. It's like the famous wings of the butterfly, which can cause the beginning of a hurricane (a small something can lead to something very big).

In 2019 112/362 * 100% = 31% were Big Boobs. In 2018 70/358* 100% = 20% Big Boobs.

Is iStripper becoming a Big Boobs site? With more Big Boob models (I have nothing against them!) iStripper will attract more lovers of Big Boobs, who get disappointed, when there are new models who don't have Big Boobs and they rate them down. A vicious circle!

The iStripperteam must look out for ***** from customers who like other type of models. It is for them to dance on a balance cord. Since new models like Isabelle or Sherice are selected, I keep my trust in the wisdom of the choices of the team serving different tastes.

Well boobs are a favorite of men throughout the world...maybe not you...but many many. It is a main tag on almost any porn website. I can guarentee you that totem does not care about the effects of ratings...and I have doubts that there is strong relationship between sales and ratings. You have to remember that buying and rating are two separate acts. THe people who rate tend to do it politically...either to give a 5 or 0. Every monthly sale the ratings are all screwed up because people who prebuy are angry when they get a bad card, and inevitably all cards during a presale are rated lower than they would be. Totem manages its recruiting of girls by visa availability, cost, and time availability. Then they worry about oversaturation of one fetish or another. I would have to see an actual single variable study to believe that ratings actually drive customer habits. Boobs do drive customer habits however! :)

PS: I do love your reviews even though we have very different tastes. Even when you point out something you don't like I end up buying the card because it is something I do like.

Seems like some of you are taking the ratings very seriously. I just rate the cards to see which were the best for me. :-)

P.S. 31% of Big Boobs is still too low. ;-D But fortunately for me I like all kinds of models. I hope diversity of models is also important. I believe no one here wants to see only one kind of model here.

@orclover quote]PS: I do love your reviews even though we have very different tastes. Even when you point out something you don't like I end up buying the card because it is something I do like.[/quote] Thanks and Happy Holidays!

P.S. 31% of Big Boobs is still too low

Compared to what I see at Metart, Nubiles, Femjoy, W4B and Amour Angels this rate is much higher.
In the end no problem: I spend my money, time and satisfaction on those sites and bye, bye to iStripper!

@orclover

Well boobs are a favorite of men throughout the world...maybe not you...but many many.

When I was between 16 and 23 years old, I was also mad about girls with big boobs. Then I did get a relation with a girl with tiny tits (musquito bites) and that changed my likings. With her I became aware of firm, well developed butts and legs, and how I liked that. So that's my story. When I see a model here on iStripper, who reminds me a bit of her, she will always be a favorite.
The model, who I commented first, was Cherries/Disco Infirno (great song), who reminded me very much of her!

P.S. 31% of Big Boobs is still too lowCompared to what I see at Metart, Nubiles, Femjoy, W4B and Amour Angels this rate is much higher.
In the end no problem: I spend my money, time and satisfaction on those sites and bye, bye to iStripper!

. Easy guys...let’s take a chill pill. Although I’m partial to naturale titties on the smaller size myself I do not discriminate against big titties..as long as the girl is pretty, sexy, is having fun entertaining us and the costumes are appealing to the eye. In all honesty I am an ass man first and foremost everything else is secondary but the good thing about Istripper is that they believe in variety being the spice of life. It’s the holidays, me thinks the variety of nectars of the gods are still being enjoyed and consumed as we enjoy the girls and voice our opinions here. There will be lots of different candy to enjoy here indefinitely 👍

Their will always be a constant flow of hot chicks with all different size titties... misquote bites all the way up to the big utters 😛

Enjoying a pint and the girls as we speak lol...Good God these girls will be the death of us all😄

In 2019 112/362 * 100% = 31% were Big Boobs. In 2018 70/358* 100% = 20% Big Boobs.Is iStripper becoming a Big Boobs site? With more Big Boob models (I have nothing against them!) iStripper will attract more lovers of Big Boobs, who get disappointed, when there are new models who don't have Big Boobs and they rate them down. A vicious circle! .

Since you brought up that data I decided to do more digging to see if there is any validation to istripper becoming a big boob site.

First lets look at the data in the years since the release of 3k cards on how many big boob cards were released each year.
2014: 73
2015: 135
2016: 47
2017: 46
2018: 70
2019: 112

So as we can see, 2015 was the year with the most big boob cards that were released post-3k. And in that year there were many lovely and great models. We even had Katya Clover, Melisa, and Sapphira A who were highly voted and had high ratings.

So while I think there is validity in the concerns, I just don't know how much it factors in when Viola, Lucy Li, and Nekane were all highly rated and alot of the highest rated cards were Big Boob tagged only for the next year to go down 65% in total Big Boob cards.

So my conclusion is that, is that the data shows that Big Boob cards aren't taking over or replacing consumers. Maybe the higher amount of Big Boob cards brought back some people? Girls like Eva Elfie and Kecy Hill seem like a good mix of what you would be looking for.

The ratings do factor in sales, but it does seem like consumers have an eye for what is definitely good. Belka is an example of card that got so many ratings in a short time and is the highest rated card ever with 575 votes averaging 4.89 stars.

Respect your reviews @zzmaskers , they are so helpful! Keep up the great work :)

As i don't base my purchases on others ratings how it affects the preview tab is of more interest.
I noticed that. You are rating cards with the purpose to get certain cards to preview tab. What is so important on which cards go to the preview tab? You are waiting for sale of certain cards?

You can't rate cards you don't own so that wouldn't work would it. The cards i rated were cards i owned and deleted. I was just testing how the system worked and it highlighted the problem with the rating system, this isn't the first thread about the ratings.

As for waiting for sale, why would I pay more than i have to?

Their will always be a constant flow of hot chicks with all different size titties... misquote bites all the way up to the big utters 😛

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Enjoying a pint and the girls as we speak lol...Good God these girls will be the death of us all😄

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@Z22 I think there are better sales than in preview tab, but the waiting for them seems pretty long nowadays - so much luck based promotions I must ignore to get to them...

@zzmaskers Your endless fight for what you want here is admirable... :-)

Your endless fight for what you want here is admirable... :-)

Thanks; it's a kind of mission, because of this

When I was between 16 and 23 years old, I was also mad about girls with big boobs. Then I did get a relation with a girl with tiny tits (musquito bites) and that changed my likings.

@Romla Happy New Year!