All sounds good, Rex except for the ***** logos.

I think @No.6 was talking about people like me who really don't like seeing the logos/splashscreens and automatically comment them out on downloading a new scene :(

Any scenes I've recorded for the competition on YouTube were obviously authorised by the Team and I mention iStripper each time in the text... so I don't understand the need for watermarking each scene unless there's another reason I'm not yet aware of :/

If the idea is to have a permanent iS logo or watermark on fullscreen scenes it will be seen by many as ownership and I don't think the community of free WebGL shaders will be overjoyed to see screencaps so presented.
Besides that, it is just another example of FS authors losing functionality. First loss of the debug screen from VGHD which really limits any member progress with shader mods. (We cannot see what is causing non compiles) then the name heirachies, now all our member crediting logos laid to waste. the list goes on. ..

@Rex 3 hours ago: iStripper logo automated display in FullScreen (an not part of the scene as it is now)

@EverthangForever an hour ago: I don't know how this will be received. If its not in the coding of the .scn file, it may look like compulsory branding of our free fullscreen scenes.

@Number6 44 minutes ago: I also have concerns about this unless it is only in the Totem provided scenes.

I also know some members who will not be at all pleased unless there is a way of turning them off. In the current scenes you can delete or rem out the lines of code with the logos.

Also when is the grouping for scenes that was promised, going to be done? I would have thought that slightly more important then a logo. It certainly is to me.

EDIT
Also what about people who run fullscreen as a screensaver with no nudity. I am fairly certain some of them aren't going to want an iStripper logo popping up on the screen.

I think the iStripper Logo is OK. If it's at the Beginning of the Scene, and then fades away after it's timed duration.
It can even come back as a fade in, and then fade away again..
This is very Similar to how the Older Screen Saver functioned. The VG logo made it's presence there as well.

Every Scene we have, Every Member created Custom Scenes, are Only here Because of the iStripper Product.
Branding / Tagging their Product is a good Idea all around.

Sorry but I have to disagree.

They go to all the trouble of creating new icons for "Safer For Work" and excluding nudity from the screensaver - now they want to splash iStripper all over it. It doesn't make much sense.

As for the necessity of branding I also do not see the point. I would imagine the vast majority of people run this programme in private. They know exactly what they are watching. They don't need any branding to remind them and no-one else is going to see it if it is being run in private.

I had suggested in another post a while back..the whole idea of fullscreen was to disguise the fact that someone was merely oggling at girls. Now they want to announce to guys' partners, bosses..whatever, that it is a stripper ? ..give me a break ;-(

When Rex first mentioned it I thought that having an initial iStripper logo at the start of a scene would be a ***** annoyance, but not one that I would object to, But the more I think about it the more I dislike the idea of having my work appear to be branded as iStripper. It is as if the first thing you see when showing a video that you shot yourself was a large Sony logo just because you used a Sony camera. As others have noted the "safe for work" and, more particularly, the screen saver implications are also of concern. A "Totem" logo, being somewhat less explicit, might be more acceptable in these situations.

Everyone will be one scene change away from being Not Safe for Work..brilliant ..not.

The only reason I object to this whole idea has nothing to do with ownership of the scene, who created it, who provided the software to make it possible or whatever along those lines.

I just DON'T like seeing logos or anything else that detracts from the imagery. We ALL here know where these scenes came from, who created them and how much fun we have had creating them.

I agree with ET. This is another rule that is taking away our fun. The Team removed our ability to create and use custom logos in our user created skins.

If someone can explain to me why all of this is necessary, I'll shut up.

I think you're lucky that Totem are so lenient... you're asking to ***** and publish their imagery without logos... most companies would sue. Totem, instead, listen and respond. You can count companies that... easy going... on one hand! :)

A ***** logo on fullscreen is a bad idea. The next step: all the girl-clips with a iSripper--logo?? I don't need to remember me I'm running a fullscreen scene from iSripper: I know it. A logo takes to much attention and disfigures the scene. The automated logo in a fullscreen on the computer of a member don't make more clients for Totem. Why to ***** it then?

I'd be more impressed if they actually fixed some of the the things that still don't work in the GUI rather than worrying about putting a logo in fullscreen..

Link to another post does not work in the GUI and never has.
Clicking on the "Eye" icon on an image in the GUI downloads it, it does not not view it.
Clicking on the "Download" Icon on an image in the GUI does nothing.
There is no way to tell the software where to download an image. They used to go in the Downloads folder which wasn't too bad - now they go to the VGHD/Bin folder - it doesn't even make sense.
In the GUI you cannot attach a picture to a PM.

Some of these have been going on for over a year. If they don't want to fix the problems in the GUI then they should abandon it and put a link in to the website - I'd find it far less frustrating.

But no -obviously it is far more important that they put a logo that is likely to serve very little purpose, in fullscreen.

I totally agree with @Number6 : fixing the bugs is the first thing to do. This iStripper logo on fullscreen has no sense for me, it's a really bad idea 😢

The reason we post content of future updates in the forum is to discuss them with our members.
The iStripper logo is or was originally planned to appear every 15mn, by fading the screen to black, fading in the logo for one or two seconds and then fading back to the scene, without interrupting it.
The main motivation behind displaying the product logo is we've been seeing clubs and bars using iStripper, only with previews because they don't want to show nudity, either with scenes we provide or new ones, on their big screens to entertain their guests. We're working on a licence for them where they could replace the iStripper logo by their own, or stay free but advertise every 15mn for our product.
That sounded reasonable for us to prevent ***** use of our free software and previews.
Discuss.

Some of the bugs mentioned will also be fixed, I was only listing new features.

Sorry but I have to disagree.

They go to all the trouble of creating new icons for "Safer For Work" and excluding nudity from the screensaver - now they want to splash iStripper all over it. It doesn't make much sense.

As for the necessity of branding I also do not see the point. I would imagine the vast majority of people run this programme in private. They know exactly what they are watching. They don't need any branding to remind them and no-one else is going to see it if it is being run in private.

I've recently been invited to preview a PAY site / add generated revenue site that is Using iStripper and Full Screen Scenes, to create all of their Video Content.
Not a Single Video out of the 20 or so already there, had any Logo, or Link back to iStripper / Totem.

I've reported this to the team..

So I think it is a way to Water Mark their Product to protect their copyright materials.

@Rex

Thank you for your explanation and your possible business case for introducing this.

Firstly I still don't see how you can tie this in with the Safer for Work ethos - or are you planning on abandoning that? Personally I don't use it at work so it doesn't really affect me but for those who do it could cause a problem. The iStripper name is a bit more "in your face" than the old VirtuaGirl name and it is more obvious as to what the software is about.

Secondly - is there anyway you could tie it in to when the scenes change. I personally would find this far less intrusive than having it happen in the middle of a scene. Tyoically I have mine set for a 10 minute change. My biggest problem is that, in the main, I use scenes with very rapidly changing shaders that produce a huge variety of colours that move almost in time to the psychedlic rock music that I have playing. To have that disappear even for only a couple of seconds in the middle of a scene completely breaks it up. To have the logo appear between scene changes would be OK for me (I cannot speak for others on this matter - I know some won't like it ).

Thirdly - what is to stop the clubs and bars simply using it in normal desktop mode with a static "wallpaper" background and thus getting around the advertising anyway. I have an automatic wall paper changer that changes the wallpaper at an adjustable time period. They could do something akin to the 2D Background Fullscreen scene without actually putting it in to fullscreen mode. You have then gone to the trouble of introducing a logo that some of your customers don't really want and the people you are actually targetting aren't seeing it anyway.

Those are my initial and personal thoughts on this - I can't really speak for anyone else on the matter.

@Wyldanimal

I can see your point of view and Totems but where do you stop?

Are they going to put a logo into the dektop as well?

Above is a cap from my desktop with iSrtipper running in desktop mode. In the background is a shader running fullscreen from Shadertoy. This just a very crude example that I set up in a minute or two. If anyone wants to get around a Fullscreen logo they can do so and fairly easily if they really want to with just a little enterprise. I've shown simply that you can create something akin to one of my fullscreen scenes without using fullscreen.

I've made my points above to @Rex (I hadn't seen your post as I was still typing mine at the time you posted).If the logo can be made less intrusive then I personally am not that bothered - particularly if they can tie it in to fullscreen changes - but I think other people will be. I still actually use the logos in my own scenes but the main one is at the start of each scene not right in the middle of it.

OK, maybe once every 15 minutes will be bearable - still annoying but bearable. There are times when I start playing randomly selected scenes and quickly clicking on them to jump to the next until I see one I feel like watching, so any logo that played at the start of any scene would be extremely obtrusive.

if, as Rex stated, it is being introduced because some places are using the software only with previews then perhaps only automaticaly displaying a logo when used with previews would be enough - though I doubt it. If people are determined to ***** the software they can always find ways round it either by using the normal desktop mode against their own background or by making a video capture and editing it so the addition of a logo would only affect casual abusers.

If clubs are taking advantage of free trial cards purely to promote their business in the way that @WA described, they are in breach of the TOS. So Totem could put the conspicuous logo how ever they want in trial cards and convert that misuse into advertising.

Members who have invested thousands in personal card collections over the years like double or triple diamonds need an option to opt out of this in the software so they can continue to enjoy their fullscreen shows interruption free.

If this was brought in for all fullscreen use, I would be tempted to go back to the route of shadertoy or cinema backgrounds and desktop use. I can use invisible taskbar for raising floorwork.

In a way VG/iS has always been promoted by Totem as a multiuse media, so exploitation of this by those less scrupulous would/should have been anticipated from the start.

I think closing down accounts (without refund) of any commercial user found breaching TOS this way or ***** them via the software to display the logo is probably the optimum solution.

I was about to add to my previous post but @EverthangForever's post stopped me editing it, so here are the additions as a separate post.

Firstly I was going to liken my clicking through scenes to "TV channel surfing", and secondly I was going to say that although I personaly don't like and don't use large initial "splash screen" logos I appreciate the viewpoint of those like @Number6 who do use them and who regret that they have lost the ability to use their own.

@Rex, Sorry if I got a bit excited about this issue.
I consider Totem's products to be an artform, unblemishable,
something more than just porn and I don't expect @TotemTeam
has the time or manpower to be a policeman around the world to
prevent unlicenced misuse.

If it is that much of a problem, the every 15 minutes
fade in brief logo would be an understandable solution.
If this probem however becomes more widespread, you could extend it to
fading in and out also a watermarking, say on the left bottom corner
an anonymous crossreference to the user id in very faint numbers,
so the account being misused is easily identified
for follow up of non licensed public use.
That alone might be deterrent enough for those who want to free-be
everything for commercial gain in this life.

Some clubs/bars are using iStipper for their promotion. So Totem has to think how these businesses can contribute to Totem. But it isn't a good idea to "punish" for it the paying members, who are enjoying the artwork of the scenes, with appearing logos,. Fullscreen with advertising in any way would ***** the beautifull scenes. Search another way to do something on commercial users (make a file on the webiste for commercial users to contact Totem on advertising matters).

Its really a side effect of offering previews free for so long.
There is a notion out there, because anything is free peeps feel they can exploit it without consequence.

Deep down I think a lot of us agree with @ohama. Totem could give diamonds an exemption option.

Maybe all this fuss about previews should make Totem rethink how their free preview system is actually working to create new sales. Previews probably need the user identifier watermark more than any other class of card, at this stage, so licence purchase by users such as these business can be managed better.

How will Totem launch the Chinese version? Chinese Internet users look forward to.

Maybe nobody speaks chinese in the team ?

Our websites are blocked in china, so Chinese visitors come through VPN and get denied by our main billers (because they think transactions are fraudulent)
Popular way of payments in China, such as Alipay won't process anything adult related.
We're very interested but not sure how to proceed :)

Well that's an invite right there to anybody who knows how to bypass the Chinese system... I'm sure the Team would reward the member for a long time if they can bring in a chunk of the possible billion or more Chinese speaking population :)

China boasts almost 20 % of the world's population...