The REPETITIVE finger movement (come here), is so fucking over done, I can't stand watching anymore. Get new material, or go home. The same show, week after week, girl after girl. WTF!!!!!

Try something new!!! We don't want to see the same thing week after week, girl after girl! You are losing your client base.

Been here since 2008. This product SUCKS now! Same thing week after week!

OK paulcarter,

The use of the "F" word in that manner will not be tolerated.

Assuming that everyone wants whatever you want is a mistake.

You will be respectful with sharing your opinion or be blocked from posting.

Ok,

I won't use profanity. But, this product is over used and over done. Let's get new material!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop the same "old" thing.! It's tiring!

We get get new material with each new girl.

Seeing that you only have six 3k cards. None of them being recent releases. I'm guessing you're judging based only on the little teaser demo clips (Which don't give you any real idea of what the show is like).

If you're refusing to buy any cards because you don't like the little finger motion, that's your loss.

Anyway, moving on. Anyone else that doesn't care for the "come here" finger motion, feel free to add your voice here.

Anyone else that doesn't care for the "come here" finger motion, feel free to add your voice here.

We had this discussion 2-3 months ago. At first I really liked this gesture. More recently it seems to be a bit over used. Maybe Totem should teach the models ASL (American Sign Language)? 😉

Technically I have to agree with OP, not that it bothers me much but it is kinda repetative...

bonjour
je ne vous comprend pas les gars, vg est un programme de strip tease, essayer chez vous et vous verrez qu'il n'y a pas 150 façons de se mettre nu
et si vous parlez de deskbabe c'est un programme de masturbation et la non plus il n' y a pas 150 façons de le faire

vous voulez des "chose" differente mais vous ne donnez pas d'idée non plus....

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hello
I do not understand you guys, vg is a striptease program, try at home and you will see that there are not 150 ways to get naked
and if you talk about deskbabe it is a masturbation program and not there 's not 150 ways to do it

you want "something" different but you do not give idea either ....

This can swing either way..
It basically comes down to personal preferences if you ask me..
I might even go as far as saying it is totally subjective..
Then again..

Personally I love the come hither gesture cause it comes across as more personal rather than some girl looking offscreen for guidance on what to do next or being destracted by something.
I'd vote for more interactive signs and gestures like that.. but.. I'm not picky about it.

Also small spoiler alert...
Most cards that feature girls doing those gestures are limited to the demo clips not the full shows.

As for variations.. sure there are 150 ways to stip or get off.. probably even more if you're very creative..
but I agree to the fact people ***** or comment on something like this but refuse or don't know how to bring alternatives to the table.

Tbh, probably the bigger issue here is that some grils do it kinda naturally (at least it feels like it) and some do it by the script and you can actually see that but then again I dont care much, pretty girls in sexy outfits is the most important thing for me.

blueguarek - 3 hour(s) ago

bonjour
je ne vous comprend pas les gars, vg est un programme de strip tease, essayer chez vous et vous verrez qu'il n'y a pas 150 façons de se mettre nu
et si vous parlez de deskbabe c'est un programme de masturbation et la non plus il n' y a pas 150 façons de le faire

vous voulez des "chose" differente mais vous ne donnez pas d'idée non plus....

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hello
I do not understand you guys, vg is a striptease program, try at home and you will see that there are not 150 ways to get naked
and if you talk about deskbabe it is a masturbation program and not there 's not 150 ways to do it

you want "something" different but you do not give idea either ....

Spot on blueguarek, thank you .

Yes, while some gestures are being over used.
New suggestions are much better than just saying, Stop doing the same thing over and over..

Instead of the Come Hither Finger, why don't you ........

Then offer your Suggestion.

@Wyldanimal Really man? Imo this is lame argumentation. We (mostly) dont work in adult entertainment but we work in our daily boring (and not so boring) jobs and we pay for VG shows with our hardly earned money. So, technically, IT is Totem's job to come up with ideas to entertain clients, not vice versa... Im just saying....

It doesn't ***** to think of ideas and make suggestions Barley. Totem listens and has used some of them in the past. I'm sure they'll use more in the future as well.

On the ***** side......
It's kinda lame to say "That's your job, not mine !". Instead of offering to provide some help.
That applies to the workplace and here.

I'm not tired of Vg at all and I don't think it's always the same here over a nd over again. Every girl here is different! Her looks, the outfit, the way she moves. In my opinion each and every girls here on VG is unique and their uniqueness goes straight into their performance. I think it would be a big mistake to impose a certain behavior on a girl here just to imply creativity cause it won't feel natural and spontaneously anymore. In the contrary I think stage directions should be reduced to a minimum so the girl is still able to perform free.
As for that "come here" finger motion...I think there was a time, a while ago, where it was definitely overused, I agree. But using that motion rare and combined with a sexy smile like they do now it can be very seductive that's for sure!

As far as I know human Sex is the same thing for thousands of years ... so what do people expect when they ***** for "new Material"???

where are their suggestions???

@91hebasu yes, but think about it from the other point of view. Lets say I write a scientific paper, I have written down Materials and Metods, Introduction, and all the other stuff I have to, but then comes the blank page titled The Experiment, and what I want is everyone to fill whatever suggestions they have and then I publish such paper in lets say Science magazine. Doesnt this sound ridiculous to you?

Seriously ???
This isn't a science experiment, paper or project.

If you don't want to be bothered with thinking of any suggestions, don't do it. Coming back over and over to argue about not wanting to think is counter productive.

This is about the core of what the OP is saying......
"The same show, week after week, girl after girl." and "Try something new!!!"

The first one is a load of crap IMO. His judgment is clearly based on the teaser demo clips and he has no idea what the shows are like.

Try something new ? OK.......What ?
Got nothin' ?


If this thread continues to be nothing but a bitching session, I'll be closing it.

91hebasu: It's kinda lame to say "That's your job, not mine !". Instead of offering to provide some help.
That applies to the workplace and here.

We are the ones who have to pay for this product and we don't get any payment for solving problems and offering solutions. This isn't our job. Of course someone can say "If you don't like it, then don't buy it". That's right. That's why I'll not spent any cent for this product anymore. I'm also sick of this "finger something" gesture. OK, in few of the first shows it was nice addition, but this is to repetitive, boring and sometimes ridiculous.

Virt4B: where are their suggestions???

My suggestions:
1. Please, stop hiring the same faces over time. Viola is beautiful young lady, but 25 shows of the same model (and there will be more) is to much. To be honest, there are only two situations where I'm able to accept comebacks. First: when model changed her look. And when I'm saying "change her look" I mean "she enlarged her tits" :) (for example Zafira). Second: when a girl REALLY can dance, for example Karina, even Aleska Diamond who have nice moves and have biggest breasts now :).
2. Try to look for a girls who can dance and who can play with the pole. I saw many girls in strip clubs in my country, who are much better at the pole than girls on this site. Maybe you should check some go-go clubs in Paris? I'm sure that there are plenty of them.

I.M.H.O. I think the whole argument has been worded incorrectly insted of "NEW" how about "just mix it up a little better". Kind of like when the cage was getting way over used. As for a suggestion has anyone ever considered when a dancer is doing a swimsuit tease to use the hand rail from a pool ladder as a prop I have seen some models use that effectively. Totem has done a good job in the past. Copy machines, desks, lounge chairs. inflatable furiture, etc. all used to add some variety. Even the finger motion while she's looking between her legs.

My suggestions:
1. Please, stop hiring the same faces over time. Viola is beautiful young lady, but 25 shows of the same model (and there will be more) is to much. To be honest, there are only two situations where I'm able to accept comebacks. First: when model changed her look. And when I'm saying "change her look" I mean "she enlarged her tits" :) (for example Zafira). Second: when a girl REALLY can dance, for example Karina, even Aleska Diamond who have nice moves and have biggest breasts now :).
2. Try to look for a girls who can dance and who can play with the pole. I saw many girls in strip clubs in my country, who are much better at the pole than girls on this site. Maybe you should check some go-go clubs in Paris? I'm sure that there are plenty of them.

Suggestions...?
They sound more like statements to me...
If a girl is populair and loved by an audiance.. i'd rehire her .. 25 shows... so what?
Don't like it, Don't buy it! .... yep, i said it.. again!
If it was up to me.. I would love to buy 100 cards of my favorite ladies..
I can't get enough of them but you can't ***** them either..

Bigger boobs or a talent in dancing doesn't mean better content in general.
Heck i don't want this stuff to become overtly professional stripclub material.
I might as well go to a stripclub instead...
However respectfully considering the opinion of other people.. i don't mind a few professional dancer cards.
Personally i ***** pole dancing for some unclear reason ..I can't get a feel for such a thing.
Then again.. does it matter in the end.. ?
Opinions remain opinions, especially if they are hard-coded in our brain and beliefs.

The Team has Professional Casting Agents.
If it was as Easy as going to the Local Strip clubs to Hire girls, I'm sure Totem has already thought of that.

NEWS FLASH!!! It isn't that easy..
Go Ask Any Stripper... Go Ahead, go to a Club and Ask!
what you will find out, Is they want to be anonymous.
They don't want to be on Video, On VG...

Myself and 2 other Financial backers had started a Web venture.
The Idea was, to put up a Calendar based Stripper site.
( In my area there were over 30 clubs )
And you never knew what club your favorite stripper was going to be at.

So here, the Strippers could log in and let their fan base know where, and when they were going to perform.

Members, would than pay a fee to be able to message, and connect with them.

It fell flat. Only a few of the Strippers participated.
The others, and we had asked over 200, didn't want anyone to know where and when they were dancing.. and Least of to have any contact from the members.

Hey, we're very open to suggestions here.

It's not easy to film so many new girls not being a bit repetitive.
The REPETITIVE finger movement (come here), has been requested for marketing reasons, to help us get new customers. It got a bit out of control I agree, I'll ask photographers to slow down on it (it'll take a few weeks for you to see it, as shows produced today won't be released before another month).

@lukaszr http://www.virtuagirl.eu/userProfile.php?usLogin=lukaszr Most of the time casting follow a combination of the team's view and the casting forum. Sometimes it's alos only numbers speaking. When a girl sells way more than average, we have her come back, to please the silent majority who buys and also ensure production costs will be covered We're doing our best to keep things fresh with makeup, outfits and model directions, but you're right, there is a limit to anything (otherwise you'd only see Viola from now on).

Now we're done with what to avoid, let's talk about what to do. We've been here many times, spare me with anything that requires acting skills and/or pole dancing skills most girls don't have, but I'm interested in getting fresh ideas to feed production :)

How about cards with girls doing stretching routines or maybe some sort of yoga? I know this requires a certain degree of skill/flexibility, but even some simple as toe touches, or lunges would be a bit different. You could maybe incorporate one of those ballet barres. I'm not aware of any cards that do this, but it would be an interesting alternative to conventional striptease.

here is my idea;hiring girls that can dance or teaching the girls to dance so they can deliver a decent and entertaining show

Here's something I'd like to see -- more tongue action. Licking of the lips, licking or fake licking of the pole as a phallic symbol (Ariel (Sexy Rodeo)), or just showing the tongue more -- especially of those girls who might have longer than usual tongues. Okay, I admit it, I have a tongue fetish.

I'd, also, like to see more costumes. One of my favorite costumes to see is a sexy nun's habit. I know that will probably never fly on VirtuaGirl because it's pretty taboo and might offend too many people, but I thought I would just put it out there. It does something for me!

My english isn't so good, so I don't know if you'll understand what I want to say, but I'll try.

For me it will be awesome if I'll see really good OR seductive dancer. It will be super awesome if I'll see really good AND seductive dancer. A girl who can walk from left side to right side of the screen with charm and sexiness, not only with shaking ass.

As bluemaxxx wrote:

Totem has done a good job in the past. Copy machines, desks, lounge chairs. inflatable furiture, etc. all used to add some variety.

It is good idea for me too. More accessories, for example chair, hanger, rolling pin, jumping rope, things used in office, kitchen, things used in everyone's life. Maybe there will be nice to see any girl riding a vacuum cleaner? Or maybe riding... hmm... enything. Why not? :)
I'd like to see more oiled girls, especially in close shot, on my taskbar. Imagine some shiny round ass, legs and titties staring at You :)
If we are talking about titties - I would like to see more girls playing with her tits, slowly, with engagement. Why don't reserve one show for this kind of game?
Or maybe let the girls make better use of her lips, tongue, eyes, mussed hair... Instead of using her finger to tell "come to me", let them use her lips and glance to tell us "take me".
I don't know if someone will agree with above, but it will be nice if does.

Is this have any sense?

Hey lukaszr, http://www.virtuagirl.com/userProfile.php?usLogin=lukaszrI for one love Viola and would love to see plenty more of her yet! If you don't want to see more of her, don't buy more of her cards. Why ***** about having more options that don't happen to appeal to you when you can simply ignore them and move on with your life? Who cares what your very narrow and limited point of view is? Why on earth are you trying to encourage Totom to not hire back such a lovely lady?

Totem, keep putting Viola in new super sexy outfits and I'll keep buying her cards, no question about it!

Keep in mind the new Vegas studio will be releasing a whole new range of cards soon with a whole new selection of ladies! I'm sure you'll be happy with the freshness of what comes out of there, at least for a while anyways...

OK Rex- since you asked- the "come hither" in the demo clips is repetitive- not that I have a huge problem with it, and with some girls it seems to work better than others. Overall I think the sexiest thing a girl can do in a demo is some sort of tease- there are many ways to do this- upskirts, unbuttoning things - we don't need the "finger come on" added to every demo, I just like a sexy tease.

Which brings me to my other request- I would like to see more models strip from a fully dressed start, and I think there is value in girls wearing other than the "stripper" clothes- If a girl is pretty, she will look great fully dressed, and I love to see girls strip from being fully and normally dressed, and not just the stripper garb. Bring us more of the girl next door, dressed for the real world and not the strip club.

I'll agree with CrackCrazy. Not that I mind bikinis and lingerie, but a girl stripping from regular clothes can be really hot ("Kiara Lord - Hooking Up" is one of my favorite new cards).

When we do get costumes, I prefer the more outlandish, unique, almost cosplay stuff, like Armina - Princess of the Stars, or Emily Spenser - Sherwood Forest.

I have almost 2500 shows, i find all of them different in some way or another, love new ideas, but u try thinking of any that have'nt been done before, its the girls that make the shows, i'm more than happy with whats on offer, thank u totem.