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Eel67
已加入 在 Apr 2008

11 发布
January 9, 2013 (edited)
I wanted to vent about a couple of things that annoy the hell out of me with the Deskbabes shows. Not all but far too many.

1. Vibrator and or dildo sucking while standing next to their partner making stupid moaning noises. WTF! Why not suck on the titties or clit of that half naked woman standing next to you? And if the vibe needed lube, put some on it before you walk out on the stage.

2. Excessive moaning for no reason. I have numerous solo shows where the girl is moaning before she even touches herself. And even more duo shows where the girl inserting the fingers or vibe into her partner is moaning as loud as the girl receiving the insertion. WTF!

3. Why does the photographer of the bonus pictures feel the need to put shoes on the model, when in that show she's barefoot in 90% of the scenes.

4. If a model tells the interviewer that she is not into girls, why put her in a duo show? We can tell their is no interest on her part to be fondled by another woman, it shows in her body language. Sometimes to the point of her actually moving the other woman's hand away.

5. Last but not least, background noise! Why would the director allow so much noise in the background? Everything from walking, doors slamming, hammering and sawing. Do you (Totem) think so little of us your customers that you can't bother to shoot in a quiet enviroment?

Well that's all for now, I'll post the rest of my DB annoyances later. Please post some of yours or comment on mine. Who knows, maybe if they know how we feel they may make improvements.

Do you agree with my points of aggravation?

45 投票

Yes!
80%
No!
20%
Cartref
主持人
已加入 在 Sep 2007

520 发布
January 9, 2013
Eel67 nd others wanting to vent,

Venting is fine so as it does not get personal, ***** or aggressive.

It would also be helpful to give secific examples of what you mean.

Other than that I do know that in the past Totem had issues with noices from outside construction which they could do little about and I do not know if that is still the case these days
Rex
团队
已加入 在 Sep 2007

364 发布
January 10, 2013
I agree on sucking on dildos and excessive moaning. It's not always easy or productive to stop a show to tell the girl to moan less and start over, most of the time it freeze the mood badly and she's back to moaning 2mn later because that's her way to deal with what she does. I also prefer girls sucking on tits and no excessive moaning but you don't always get what you want to film.
Interviews are filmed at the end of day, ur right, it's late to realize she's not into girls
As for noise, we invested a lot in this new studio but we've been unlucky with the people two stories below tearing appart their place before rebuilding it. They were supposed to stop their work during the 3 days of filming, but then again stopping a scene, leaving the girls to look for who made a noise and getting back to it was not easy. I'm glad it's over now and we can work in good conditions.
firemonkey
已加入 在 Nov 2012

21 发布
January 10, 2013
Again a pole in which I would have to vote both Yes and No.
I agree with the point about excessive moaning; it's just annoying. I once joined a site that was so bad I quit after about a day. There were normally 3 girls in each scene and it was like synchronized moaning. They would all moan together, every 3 seconds (even the girl who was not actually doing anything). You could actually time them. I haven't found it to be that bad on db but maybe in the instructions given to the models before shooting it is something that could be mentioned.
I also don't like the noisy kissing. Kissing is fine but for some reason in a lot of the duos the kissing is very loud. It's like they're trying to make it noisy. Again, not sexy, just annoying.
The only other thing that annoys me is when the model seems to be getting excited about having her strapon sucked. Showing some interest is fine but don't be excessive.
Eel67
已加入 在 Apr 2008

11 发布
January 10, 2013
I forgot to mention the strap-on dildo moaning; as if she can feel something through a plastic sex toy, attached to a belt around her waist...LOL.

I thought that the interviews where done before shooting. I wasn't aware they occured after the shoot. Maybe it's time to ***** that around?
shodan084
已加入 在 Dec 2007

1652 发布
January 10, 2013
It's a good idea, but the truth of the matter is that the girl might say she's okay with something and it's not until the moment of filming that you realise she's not... that magic moment. Wouldn't matter what order you shoot things in.
plasonic
已加入 在 Dec 2007

1325 发布
January 10, 2013 (edited)
Girls moaning need to be encouraged to build UP to the climax.

In acting, if you start at the emotional destination, at the top, then there's no drama & no where to go but that very long one note,VERY imbalanced & boring as a performance!
(although I just fantasize they are really "hot for me" (lol) as the cards are already formed when I see them & I have to make the best out of them imaginatively that I can.)

I understand it might be difficult to direct foreign girls (language etc.)but perhaps the director could do a sound reference ala by making these sounds-"Yes -Mmmmmm...oooo...Mmmmmm ahhh yeaaahhhh,Mmmmmmm...unhhhhh...ohhh...yesss...mmmmmmmm"
and" NO...not.... "OOOHHHHAEGHHHHAHHHHHHHGHHHHHHWOWWWW!" UNTIL the very orgasmic climax time!"
(clips will have to be structured to have specific orgasmic times...maybe this lessons the magic for the less acting able girls.
I like the idea of a girl getting so lost in a gentle,evolving, building, erotic arousal as she either does herself or is done to by another girl AND THEN looks slyly, seductively to me ...saying ONLY WITH HER EYES.."Mmmm...sooo good...you want some too? Come here & get some!"
I understand a quick dildo suck to lube it for insertion...I like a deep POV suck on a more or less realistic dildo (see Blanche's accompanying video).
Someone recently Mia Manerote or Ema? did a nice sucking the dildo like a cock in profile move, INTENSELY, that worked nicely too>
But NOOO...not long "lolly pop style" sucks!!!

Sorry firemonkey & eel....but I LOVE the hot, wet, lusty kissing(Someone called it sexily -"Lipstick Lesbian")I like a combo & deep wet kisses & intense 2 finger finger fucking!
I LOVE the realistic strap on cock sucking/fucking with reaction effects ('tho balanced & controlled as mentioned above)I'm not turned on by real life trannies, nor "dick boys" (futanari)but I DO like the "chicks with dicks" fantasy & love seeing girls get "well & truly fucked & sucked" intensely on DB! The effect is IN THE IMAGINATION OF THE VIEWER so of course the " girl with a cock" feels the sucking/fucking a lot!
(Wowie!!)

I'd say give the girls a brief (5-10 min.?)try out/rehearsal to see what/how they do...add a bit of teaching, correcting, (as above)& explaining, then maybe show them an example of the kind of erotic action as a suggestion & go.

Director might have to partly pantomime the following, "Yes...Mmmmmmm...yeah" "NO-Ah...AHHHHH...AGHHHH!" UNTIL THE ORGASM!!
for awhile to get the point across at first

I'm SOOO ready for girls that want to be doing some Sweet Anal licking, flicker tongue way or deep lusty probe!I love it when a girl is INTENSELY hungry for that & indulges deeply,enjoyable, & fully to the often surprised,pleasurable exstacy of the other babe!
(or at least...PrettyGirl PuckerLickyFlickin'!!!)
But ONLY if the girls are REALLY into it!
But don't hold back givin' it ALL to us, Totem, if they do do it!

Tickle... tickle....tickle....Ahhhhhhhhh!
:)


firemonkey
已加入 在 Nov 2012

21 发布
January 10, 2013
@plasonic

If the moaning is authentic then I say more...more! However, I find it's often just a noise (not even a real moan) that the models make, and seems to have no real feeling behind it. I'd rather they wait until they actually feel it than have them just do it automatically from the start. It may help them build up to a climax but it does nothing for me.
I think the thing that annoys me the most is when you can see the model is trying to act and watch the director at the same time. You can see that she's not looking at you or her partner but someone else. the typical scene is the girl is doing something and suddenly looks over at the director then moves or changes position or stops what she was doing and starts doing something else. It just interrupts the flow of the scene.
SylvanSnake
已加入 在 Sep 2009

33 发布
January 10, 2013
OK, a lot of these points I would have to agree with. At least the things that are under the control of the models and Totem staff. The outside noises... probably not much to be done if it's coming from outside the studio walls, unless you invest in some electronic noise-filtering software to remove the unwanted sounds in post-production. But that would likely increase production costs for each show.

As for the excessive moaning, I totally agree with that. It is very distracting. My favorite example is Abigaile Johnson. One of my favorite VG models, but one of my least favorite DB models, simply because her excessive moaning is so unbearable. I deleted every one of her DB cards!

And yes, in the DB duo shows it would be great to see more interaction than just dildos. Some real nipple sucking and groping would be very nice. The girls need to show more chemistry together. I think Totem should make a better system of matching girls for the duos. Match them based on chemistry and personality, instead of just the random method they have been using. Maybe put all the girls in a room together, and let them choose their own partners!

Better to have less duos with higher quality than many duos of low quality.
WickedHot
已加入 在 Jul 2010

4 发布
January 10, 2013
1 Not for a minute lol.

2 Doesn't this apply to porn in general. You could place a desktop volume gadget if you have Vista or Win 7. It can be set to always ontop of other windows and it has five levels of transparency so it's not noticable. If you don't like the default windows gadget there are a couple still online to download. Microsoft discontinued gadggets now so they aren't easy to find.

Actually the reason I have one is because the moaning can be very loud but in other clips they talk so softly. lol I love hearing those cute accents. Especially Leonelle Knoxville. Makes it easy to adjust the vol with one click.

3 I'd guess most aren't really. Ten points for just showing up.

4 Can I say "nit-picking".

5 I vaguely noticed. In my defense I think I was too distracted by those hot naked chicks lezzing it up on my screen.

Eel67
已加入 在 Apr 2008

11 发布
June 8, 2013
That cage Totem insists on using, it blocks the view of the model. Totem get rid of the cage!
Oquijan
已加入 在 May 2009

1536 发布
June 8, 2013
More clips with the cage, please!
Ricky78
已加入 在 Apr 2010

274 发布
June 8, 2013

I agree with EeI67 about the cage.

I bought some particular cards on DB and I saw after the cage.

To be honest,I didn`t mind at first time ,but after when I saw there are plenty cards with the cage in my opinion(and Totem insists to use it) this thing bothered me.

EeI67 has right when he says the cage blocks the view of the model(models).

Anyway,because I use credits on DB,I will be more carefull what I will buy:)
Even if I`ll like the girls,if I will see more cages in the cards,I will not buy them.

The use of cage IN EXCESSIVE WAY it`s pretty annoying for me.



robbanzjo
已加入 在 Mar 2012

339 发布
June 8, 2013 (edited)
I can agree on some of what you say.. first the noises in the background but not much we can do if its outside totems reach, hope it gets better.

And the excessive moaning sometimes is a little bit too much i can agree on that.

And out of what @WickedHot says about putting the right girls together, i guess the naked girls in front of me have taken too much attention for me to see it but i can agree that you should ask them before if the are really into G/G or not, why cant the girls thats not into G/G do more solos?

Heaven as an example, i dont know if she is the only one but she have 3 DB solo cards and as far as i know she is the only one.
laotahn
已加入 在 May 2008

40 发布
June 8, 2013
Sorry for being contrarian, but I have a couple of unpopular opinions.

1) I like kissing, the more girls kissing, the better. I like the loud kissing so far.

2) Dildo sucking...it's just simulated oral sex, I guess a lot of women in the industry get told that early men like watching oral sex, so um, suck that dildo! It works for me for a lot of different girls. But I guess it's kind of a fall back position for girls who don't know what to do next, so it is what it is.

3) I think excessive moaning isn't so bad, if you don't like it, it's generally pretty clear in the Demo card who doesn't have particularly natural moaning, so I think most of the time we're pretty safe.

4) Ask the girls if they want to use the cage. The girls who seem to like using it do a much better performance with it. :0

I think Totem is still doing incredible work and I think the girls are doing an incredible job keeping us entertained!
BigSteve
已加入 在 Dec 2007

131 发布
June 8, 2013 (edited)
I agree pretty much with all of the original poster's "points of aggravation," but some of them are as Frank Sinatra might have said, too small to mention. And Rex responded perfectly to all of them except perhaps the one about interviewing the girl last after all the other shooting is done, and finding out too late that she is not into girl/girl. While I can't think of a single interview where the model clearly stated she is not into girl/girl (they usually say something like, "Girls are nice too"), why assume she is lying or going to lie about it? Unless there is some compelling reason to shoot the interview last, why not schedule it earlier in the shooting session and give her the benefit of the doubt that she may answer truthfully? It may reveal something useful. Just my two cents.

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