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What happen with Camilla  

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slayyer
已加入 在 Aug 2008

163 发布
December 21, 2012
I can testify that the camilla images and videos were removed by totem as requested. I had 5 of her shows at a time when I had almost all the show. I will ask for and cheerfully receive a refund at some point.
Carpetburn
已加入 在 May 2009

1 发布
December 21, 2012
I have been a VG member since May of 2009 and I can confirm that all images, videos and any content pertaining to Camilla have been removed. Cards and videos that were in my library have been removed indefinitely. Only blanks that were once Camilla cards remain and are inaccessible.
pianogrinder
已加入 在 Apr 2008

471 发布
December 21, 2012
I searched the Totem websites for any traces of (cough) camilla. and found none. Just tell Camilla to stop overreacting and let it go. Your stuff is wiped clean girl, time to move on and see what other websites you can sue, Camilla is greedy and power hungry.
Alkasyn
已加入 在 Apr 2008

717 发布
December 21, 2012
Indeed the shows have been made unavailable to the customers, there is no way to buy them and even if you bought them previously there's no way of viewing the show at this point.
dutchsexking
已加入 在 Oct 2008

124 发布
December 21, 2012
You have do everting to clean here files and database. I tink Camilla her soollicitor will make big money of this casement.

BigSteve
已加入 在 Dec 2007

132 发布
December 21, 2012 (edited)
I hope that sticking my two cents in does not ***** Totem's legal case, but I still have my 2 Camilla cards (beautiful girl but the cards are no great shakes), and they both can be made to play OK on my computer. If someday I get a new computer and want to transfer my collection to its hard drive, I assume Camilla's cards will not survive the switch-over.

I agree that Camilla's behavior is less than honorable given that she presumably signed a release and has been compensated fairly, but before we dump on her too much, it also seems possible that she is being coerced into her legal actions by external pressures (new boyfriend, husband, family just found out...). Let's hope this doesn't start a trend. Thank you, Totem, for taking the high road.

If it turns out that this post is distinctly UN-helpful to Totem's legal case, I can make this message self-destruct in 5 seconds, and the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of its content.
Klaken
已加入 在 May 2009

15 发布
December 21, 2012
Searching the forum for Camilla brings only pages where the situation is discussed and people ask for information. This is largely enough proof that Totem effectively did remove everything.
You should ask her lawyer to show the evidence they have collected to support this unfair accusation and sue back for ***** procedure.
The only people who still have access to her data are those who have local copies on their own computer that they bought prior to the legal issue and Totem has no right to delete this data from customer's computers.
BigSteve
已加入 在 Dec 2007

132 发布
December 21, 2012
Mr. Klaken and the rest of us armchair lawyers all believe that Totem must have a very strong case. Camilla supposedly hails from Italy; Totem is in France, and who among us is an expert on the law in the venue where this suit is being brought? We can only hope that our sense of fairness will play out in a fair way wherever it has to be settled.

In the meantime, if it would be better for me to edit or delete my earlier post from a few hours ago (preferably without a Moderator having to ask or delete it for me?) I would be happy to do whatever it takes to help (and then delete this message too).
Quinn
已加入 在 Jan 2010

7 发布
December 23, 2012
I still have Camilla Green Valley. I enjoy this card very much, but I would be willing to trade it for credits.
SweetAngel
已加入 在 Jun 2012

61 发布
December 23, 2012
I can no longer remember to Camilla I think that was a Classic card!
dbj9400
已加入 在 Dec 2008

1 发布
December 23, 2012
hey guys i to wondered want happened to camilla i purchased her,darkside Dec.2009 and recently uninstalled vg to install on new laptop and never got her back she couldnt dance a lick but she grew on me am i to understand i wont get her back and if not am i entitle to a free vg of my choice
dutchsexking
已加入 在 Oct 2008

124 发布
December 23, 2012
you can ask cs for a refund
spiderman1804
已加入 在 Feb 2008

439 发布
December 23, 2012
@dbj9400

As I know you can download the card, if you have the card in your collection.
The card will be shown in black and white when the card has been downloaded yet.

Only the pictures and videos are not can download anymore.
mitchell
已加入 在 Jan 2010

256 发布
December 24, 2012
The bad thing is that Camilla is no innocent who was used. This model has performed for multiple different companies in the adult industry. She has photos hoots and videos at many different places online. She was prominently featured on the major website MET_ART also. She clearly knew what she was doing. At most she can request that sites assist her. She is hardly any position to make demands or sue. I hope she realises that if this case goes to the EU appeals court she will lose and also likely have to pay damages or at the very least costs to Totem and any other company she sued. Local judges in her jurisdiction may have granted her an injunction or even may have ruled in her favor, but she has to know that there is no chance she will win an appeal to a EU court. She would have to prove collusion by multiple independent companies, and a conspiracy between these independent companies to deceive and or mislead her. She would further have to prove that she was either mentally incapable of making decisions or that she was indeed a ***** at the time she made her decisions. Both of which she cannot claim because both are demonstrably false.
goldiecharleston
已加入 在 Dec 2008

340 发布
December 24, 2012 (edited)
I can also confirm I specifically recall reading on this very forum about Camilla's cards, pictures and videos being removed from the servers in 2011.

I would also like to point out that I think it ill-advised for anyone to make comments or pass judgement about Camilla's character or whether or not she should be pursuing the action especially while it is ongoing. That is for the courts to decide if she has cause for complaint and it won't help Totem's defence one bit if the thread continues along those lines.

Her legal team most likely will be monitoring this forum so please exercise a little discretion as anything and everything negative on here could possibly also be used against Totem in court.

So please bear the above in mind before posting any comment or testimony on the actions Totem took.
mitchell
已加入 在 Jan 2010

256 发布
December 24, 2012
one can freely express an opinion without going into specifics. my above comment for example does not attack the young woman, it merely gave my personal opinion and also mentioned certain things that are factual and in the public domain. It is my opinion that the action is flawed not that the individual is. and it is also a fact that different courts may rule differently on the same matter.it is also my opinion that no consenting adult is an innocent. Those are my personal views and I am not speaking for Totem nor am I attempting to imply that I am nor can it be inferred by any party that Totem subscribes to my personal opinions and or statements.
2Flexy4you
已加入 在 Feb 2009

1 发布
December 24, 2012
Hi,
im a member for a long time now.
i can not remember if i bought her or got her from subscribtion
i have all her shows in virtuagirl, or atleast i did have...
my question is if i got her shows via subscribtion do we get a refund to?
or do you get only a refund when you bought her for credits?
dutchsexking
已加入 在 Oct 2008

124 发布
December 24, 2012
That question 2fles4you can you better send to the costumer service by the help section?
DMon1981
已加入 在 Jan 2010

386 发布
December 24, 2012 (edited)
@2Flexy4you You have paid for them either way so will be entitled for a refund. I too had all 6 of her shows and got them through both subscription and purchases most likely. I was credited with 6 credits.

So if you want a refund probably be best pm'ing Celine. But not likely to hear anything until after the holidays.
Rex
团队
已加入 在 Sep 2007

365 发布
December 24, 2012
Thanks for your help, I'm now closing this topic.

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