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NFT Sia Siberia - Your thoughts

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Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2008

3909 Сообщения
11 June 2023 (edited)
Bidding for the Rare and Limited cards is pushing the value beyond the minimum bid levels.

I hope for the future NFT cards, that there will be a larger Quantity of Limited cards made available.
I think that everyone whom would want to bid for one, should at the very least, be able to own one at the Limited Rarity level.



TheEmu
Присоединился в Jul 2012

3309 Сообщения
11 June 2023 (edited)
I think that everyone whom would want to bid for one, should at the very least, be able to own one at the Limited Rarity level.

Which pretty much negates the point in making them Limited.

Limiting the release of a card to everybody who wants to buy it is an oxymoron. That being said it is something I have seen elsewhere with so called "collectables".
Ullubu
Присоединился в Dec 2011

746 Сообщения
11 June 2023
He is only talking about the limited rarity. For higher levels of rare, epic and legendary, nothing would change. There are the high bidders fighting their bidding wars.
TheEmu
Присоединился в Jul 2012

3309 Сообщения
11 June 2023 (edited)
He is only talking about the limited rarity.

So was I.

If the "Limited" level was sold to everyone who wanted to buy it then it would be an "Unlimited" level.
Ullubu
Присоединился в Dec 2011

746 Сообщения
11 June 2023
No, it would be not unlimited.
At the moment it should be 250 - 300 limited cards, instead of 218, so every of the 95 bidders get at least one card and the traders still get their card stacks. Looking at the numbers it's a difference of 60$.

The investors battle for the higher levels.
The three legendary cards have been sold for 240K Dolz, that's the same as all 15 epic cards together. The 59 rare cards together will be less and all limited cards even with 300 would be lot less.
So Totem makes the money with the high bidders/investors, not with normal iStripper users that just want one card for their collection.
The investors will never watch the shows, just resell them for higher profits.
TheEmu
Присоединился в Jul 2012

3309 Сообщения
11 June 2023 (edited)
May I remind you that what @Wyldanimal said was

I think that everyone whom would want to bid for one, should at the very least, be able to own one at the Limited Rarity level.

This would mean that nobody would need to bid above whatever was set as the minimum bid and that anybody who was willing to pay that minimum bid, no matter how many there were, would be able to get the card. In effect the "Limited" level would just be on sale at fixed price rather than having their price set, at a higher level, by an auction.
herve78350
TEAM
Присоединился в Jul 2007

27 Сообщения
11 June 2023
I think that everyone whom would want to bid for one, should at the very least, be able to own one at the Limited Rarity level.
This is precisely what we desire for limited cards. We will also make an effort to maintain a low entrance price for these limited cards. To achieve this goal, we will adjust the number of limited cards based on the number of potential bidders. Furthermore, we are considering implementing a restriction on the number of bids each bidder can place for a specific rarity level. For instance, a bidder may be limited to bidding on a maximum of 5% of the available cards for that particular rarity level.
TheEmu
Присоединился в Jul 2012

3309 Сообщения
11 June 2023 (edited)
To achieve this goal, we will adjust the number of limited cards based on the number of potential bidders.

As far as I can see in order to acheive the aim that everybody who wants one can get one the number of cards produced must be at least equal to the number of "potential bidders", at which point it there is effectively no limit and no need for anybody who only wants the "Limited" level to bid anything above the minimum price and the auction (for this level) collapses into a fixed price sale.

An unavoidable aspect of an auction is that not everybody can get what they want.
herve78350
TEAM
Присоединился в Jul 2007

27 Сообщения
11 June 2023
I didn't express myself clearly; what I meant was that every bidder has a chance to acquire a card at a low price. However, there will always be some competition for the available cards because certain individuals may still have the opportunity to purchase more than one card. It's a delicate balance between allowing maximum participation and maintaining the price of purchased cards over time.
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2008

3909 Сообщения
11 June 2023
This would mean that nobody would need to bid above whatever was set as the minimum bid and that anybody who was willing to pay that minimum bid, no matter how many there were, would be able to get the card.


Remember that in Each of the Rarity Levels the cards have a SN starting at SN 1
The Bidding war would be to get the Lowest SN
which then on the Secondary Market, Should command a Higher Selling Price.

Now at the Limited Level, this might not be much of a difference, but the Lower SN's would create a bidding war.
there were 218 cards at the limited level in this 1st Auction.
Myself and Others placed bids on Multiple Numbers of Limited cards.

Depending on how High our Bid amounts are, this pushes the lower bids off the List.

If there are 130 active bidders, and 15 of them get pushed off the list with Minimal Bids.
because there are Members making Multiple Higher Bids on 10 or More entries,
Perhaps the Number of available cards at the Limited level can be Dynamic, and enough cards added so that all of the Active bidders still get to own one.

The Higher bidders still get the lowest SN cards,
the Multiple Bidders still get their Multiple cards
and every Active Bidder gets to own one at the Limited level.

It wouldn't be Unlimited, the Numbers would be Limited to provide a card to each of the Active bidders.

Just at the Limited Level
Maybe a timed Bid for Additional Bids after the 1st one.
If you Bid Once, it is Instant. If you Edit your 1st bid it is instant.
If you make a 2nd Bid or Edit a 2nd Bid, there is a time delay added.
a Minute between bids after the 1st one??


TheEmu
Присоединился в Jul 2012

3309 Сообщения
11 June 2023 (edited)
It wouldn't be Unlimited, the Numbers would be Limited to provide a card to each of the Active bidders.

Which still means that there would be no limit unless you artificially limit the number of active bidders.

Now, I have no problem with any of this - only with compatibility of an auction with the original statement

I think that everyone whom would want to bid for one, should at the very least, be able to own one at the Limited Rarity level.
sjaakie
Присоединился в Dec 2007

61 Сообщения
11 June 2023 (edited)
I wonder how often a trade card wil released.
written under "Waypoint over Dolz" on January 9.
"50 have already been processed and will be released soon."

If the same person buys 60 from Limited from every trading card it will be quite expensive.
So let's hope this only happens on the first trading card.
Djoal
Присоединился в Sep 2018

49 Сообщения
11 June 2023 (edited)
yeah funny how this auction going, some people and i know they can do it so they do... bids many cards like for exemple someone call "Dan..." i will not put his fulll nickname here but seriouslly he all ready got 1 épic, 5 rare of this card and i see about 20 winning bids of him on the limited... just to after that sell it double or triple the price... this is ridiculous...

edit : i said 20 it is much more...
Calgon
Присоединился в May 2022

355 Сообщения
11 June 2023
yeah funny how this auction going, some people and i know they can do it so they do

Couldn't agree with you more. I've been part of this "community" for a year now and for that reason I've placed just a couple of bids. Maybe I should put 20 bids just to shunt off some of the others.... doesn't seem very community spirited to me. I sincerely hope that Totem produce a much larger number of cards in future so that everyone who wants to be part of this venture can be.
Alkasyn
Присоединился в Apr 2008

717 Сообщения
12 June 2023
yeah funny how this auction going, some people and i know they can do it so they do... bids many cards like for exemple someone call "Dan..." i will not put his fulll nickname here but seriouslly he all ready got 1 épic, 5 rare of this card and i see about 20 winning bids of him on the limited... just to after that sell it double or triple the price... this is ridiculous...

edit : i said 20 it is much more...

I have a feeling this won't last too long as AFAIK the interest in trading those cards is low (that was true for the previous ones), so the resell value should go down to reasonable levels eventually. If not, treat it as a card you simply will not get, and that's it.
Philours
Присоединился в Feb 2019

1612 Сообщения
12 June 2023
Juste pour info : a trois heures de la fin de la vente, le prix minimum pour acquérir une carte limitée est de 420 Dolz, soit approximativement 5 $.

Just for information: three hours from the end of the sale, the minimum price to acquire a limited card is 420 Dolz, or approximately $5.
Calgon
Присоединился в May 2022

355 Сообщения
12 June 2023
The Serial number of my Limited edition card seems to be different to its number on OpenSea. The number on Opensea is 1 higher than on iStripper.
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2008

3909 Сообщения
12 June 2023
The Serial number of my Limited edition card seems to be different to its number on OpenSea. The number on Opensea is 1 higher than on iStripper.

Each card has a Token ID
that is what detwrmins your card.
I see on OpenSea you Have token ID
121 = SN 45/222
157 = SN 81/222
258 = SN 182/222
271 = SN 195/222
274 = SN 198/222

to see a specific Token ID - SN 1 is ID 0
Change the Token ID on the end of the URL
https://opensea.io/assets/matic/0xd27029e4ebc3c4c55fcfadddc54fa0b911829afc/274
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2008

3909 Сообщения
12 June 2023
Sia SIBERIA - Sexy Kitty
g0001
Contract #
0xd27029e4ebc3c4c55fcfadddc54fa0b911829afc

token ID's
0 to 2 = Legendary 1 to 3 of 3
3 to 17 = Epic 1 to 15 of 15
18 to 76 = Rare 1 to 59 of 60
77 to 294 = Limited 1 to 218 of 222
295 = Rare 60 of 60
296 to 299 = Limited 219 to 222

Total = 300 ID's

change the ID on the URL
https://opensea.io/assets/matic/0xd27029e4ebc3c4c55fcfadddc54fa0b911829afc/0
ioiwin
Присоединился в Apr 2017

4 Сообщения
12 June 2023
I cant download my NFT card which i bided today
pickle1
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2019

1353 Сообщения
12 June 2023
@ioiwin - it has been announced that there is an issue - it will be fixed by tomorrow
Calgon
Присоединился в May 2022

355 Сообщения
12 June 2023
I cant download my NFT card which i bided today

Yup, me neither.... they are probably fixing the issue already.
pickle1
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2019

1353 Сообщения
12 June 2023
The Serial number of my Limited edition card seems to be different to its number on OpenSea. The number on Opensea is 1 higher than on iStripper.

@Calgon - I have the same findings as you - the image of my winning card on Dolz.IO shows #31; the image on my app shows #30.

I reported it to Jon at Totem.
orclover
Присоединился в Jun 2012

744 Сообщения
12 June 2023
yeah funny how this auction going, some people and i know they can do it so they do... bids many cards like for exemple someone call "Dan..." i will not put his fulll nickname here but seriouslly he all ready got 1 épic, 5 rare of this card and i see about 20 winning bids of him on the limited... just to after that sell it double or triple the price... this is ridiculous...edit : i said 20 it is much more...I have a feeling this won't last too long as AFAIK the interest in trading those cards is low (that was true for the previous ones), so the resell value should go down to reasonable levels eventually. If not, treat it as a card you simply will not get, and that's it.

Yeah, unless there is a hidden army of card buyers who couldn't figure out dolz and how to auction and LOVE Sia and trust the whole process AND want to spend 5-10x more for a card that offers nothing more than a $1 card then I imagine Danny will be staring at his dozens of Sia cards. There were about 10 people who bid close to 500 dolz, the rest stopped way below so those 10 are going to be fighting for 218 cards...so the price could actually drop quite low in the far future.
Djoal
Присоединился в Sep 2018

49 Сообщения
12 June 2023 (edited)
hum just back from work, i lost my bids 502 dolz and the low bids win was 504 dolz shame on me i guess this card will not be mine, never mind hope the next one will be different with more cards...
or a limited bids to everyone, like for exemple 5 bids win max.

edit : @wyldanimal i see you got many win bids on limited cards if you sell it with a fair price i'm in ;)
Djoal
Присоединился в Sep 2018

49 Сообщения
12 June 2023
Juste pour info : a trois heures de la fin de la vente, le prix minimum pour acquérir une carte limitée est de 420 Dolz, soit approximativement 5 $.

Just for information: three hours from the end of the sale, the minimum price to acquire a limited card is 420 Dolz, or approximately $5.

not really 1000 dolz for me is about 20€ so 420 dolz can't be 5$ or tell me what is 1000 dolz for you Oo ?
pickle1
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2019

1353 Сообщения
12 June 2023 (edited)
You need to buy yourself a new calculator 😊

Dolz are currently trading at 1 Dolz for $0.01110 (according to Dolz.io) so 1000 Dolz will be $11.1
Djoal
Присоединился в Sep 2018

49 Сообщения
12 June 2023 (edited)
so i've been fucked to get Dolz on presale 2? with 120€ i got 5400 dolz wtf

edit : omg i didn't know i got the half left on the presale window on dolz website i didn't know, i just cheked that when you told me the value of Dolz @Pickle1...
my bad then... and thank you also ;)
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2008

3909 Сообщения
12 June 2023
edit : @wyldanimal i see you got many win bids on limited cards if you sell it with a fair price i'm in ;)


I will probably sell a few of them at just above cost to cover the fees on OpenSea.io
I'll let you know what that is..

Some I hope I can make a small Profit on..

I even had the idea to raffle them off, But I don't know if that can be done on OPenSea.io

example, 20 members Bid 1 Matic so I collect 20 Matic total,
then use Random.org to pick a winner out of the 20...

https://www.random.org/lists/

Wyldanimal
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Присоединился в Mar 2008

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