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Thank Got It's the last Friday of July 2021, a great occasion to spin a wheel :) A quick sum up of this week releases first: Sonya Blaze is THE Girl You Need so so cute with her tiny denim short, pink...

Sorry not really a question - more a fun observation 😉
Is it just me or does Belka look like she is feeling the cold on the Summer Sale home page? That's from her Hottest Day Of Summer card and I never noticed that before. 😄 Things warm up for her later on I know 👍

@wrightsayswow 😆

Do we get a joker card after completing the SEC bar a second time?

Do we get a joker card after completing the SEC bar a second time?

The Prize for the 2nd time filling the progress bar is a Gift Card.
That is what is indicated on My Progress bar.

Do we get a joker card after completing the SEC bar a second time?The Prize for the 2nd time filling the progress bar is a Gift Card.
That is what is indicated on My Progress bar.

Okey dokey, thank you

@Manue is it possible to win the Milena Ray special event card on wheel of bargains? And do you have to purchase the cards to increase the progress bar or just spin the wheel? Thanks

@tigerblue300
You can win the Milena Ray SEC with the progression bar. This bar will progress when you play at the Wheel of Bargains, you don't have to purchase the cards.

I don’t know how the chances are this time, but from 10 draws I never really got any seriously better discount than 20 percent (most of them were 10%), and all of them mostly ugly cards I didn’t like (maybe would have taken them with MUCH better discounts, or maybe I should have bought some of them to get better discounts). Kind of honestly de-motivates me. Last times (someone might remember that I praised this promotion some time ago) were definitely better :( I mean, even the Slot Machine recently at least showed me 25% every 3rd try or so, or I even got my credits back. Guess I’ll stick to buying new numbers I’m interested in or waiting for the rare cashback offers, obviously the only true interesting promotions meanwhile.

I did also try a few spins and made a comment on another thread, but at only 1 credit per spin it will take a very, very long time to fill the bar, unless you do also buy some of the selections. I'm waiting for the scratch card game next week to start my progress.

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/48230/1?post=720589

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I haven't played since last year so I don't know if anything has changed since. I probably tried about 30 spins altogether and never landed on the -70% nor the "free" section of the wheel.

Also in the cards that were drawn, none of them were actually recent; so I still don't understand Celine's post when she says cards are selected "among the most recent cards".
For example, the 4 cards on the screenshot are from 2016 (2), 2013 & 2014.

@Celine @Manue Could you please clarify from which point/date/year cards are considered "the most recent"? And therefore which ones are not recent? Thanks.

@arise77
For me, the cards are selected from 30 days ago and earlier in the entire series you haven't, not only "the most recent". This rule applies (sometimes 45 days ago and earlier) for long time in my knowledge of the games.

@stefnev1
Thanks for your reply, I also assume cards are from the entire collection.
Then why say "among the most recent ones"?

@arise77
"among" veut dire "parmi" et pas "seulement" (mais ça tu le sais déjà). Donc quand @celine écrit "parmi les plus récentes" cela ne signifie pas "seulement parmi les plus récentes". La nuance est bien là, on peut recevoir des cartes récentes (sorties il y a 30 jours ou plus), mais pas que.
Bonne journée quand même 😎

@Members
You have to read the Entire rule, not just half of it.

The cards are selected among the most recent ones not in your collection and released more than 30 days ago.

Most recent not in your Collection and more than 30 days old

Then why say "among the most recent ones"?

For every Member, Most Recent NOT in your collection will be different.

A member who has every Card from 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021, and none from 2017
Most recent will be cards starting from 2017

For a member who doesn't have cards from 2020
Most recent will be cards starting from 2020

So it depends on a members collection and which cards will be most recent to them.

@arise77
"among" veut dire "parmi" et pas "seulement" (mais ça tu le sais déjà). Donc quand @celine écrit "parmi les plus récentes" cela ne signifie pas "seulement parmi les plus récentes". La nuance est bien là, on peut recevoir des cartes récentes (sorties il y a 30 jours ou plus), mais pas que.
Bonne journée quand même 😎

@stefnev1
Justement, "parmi" est suivi d'un groupe défini, indiquant une limite. Par exemple, si je dis "parmi les personnes de plus de 50 ans" cela n'inclut que les personnes de 50 ans et +, mais cela exclut aussi les personnes de moins de 50 ans, logiquement. Donc ce qui ne fait pas partie du groupe énoncé après "parmi" est exclu.
Je pense que ce que tu voulais dire était : "cartes récentes incluses parmi toutes les collections"
Bonne journée également 😉

@Members
You have to read the Entire rule, not just half of it.

The cards are selected among the most recent ones not in your collection and released more than 30 days ago.
Most recent not in your Collection and more than 30 days old

Then why say "among the most recent ones"?
For every Member, Most Recent NOT in your collection will be different.

A member who has every Card from 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021, and none from 2017
Most recent will be cards starting from 2017

For a member who doesn't have cards from 2020
Most recent will be cards starting from 2020

So it depends on a members collection and which cards will be most recent to them.

@Wyldanimal
Thanks for your reply, for me the part "more than 30 days ago" is very clear. My question was about the meaning of "most recent".

So you're saying that if cards from 2020 onwards are available for me to buy, they should be drawn. At the time of my screenshot I had over 300 cards available in the store from 2019 and 2020 even excluding the previous 30 days ones. Why aren't any of these selected then?

@arise
Salut, peut-être , juste pas de chance dans le tirage des cartes qui te sont proposées😉
Ce n'est pas la première fois que tu t'étonnes à ce sujet 😊Je comprend bien ton exemple des personnes de + de 50 ans.
Les réponses que tu as reçues sont valables , bien sûr.
Je ne suis ni Celine, ni Manue, mais si tu comprends, comme moi, que les cartes les plus récentes sont toutes les cartes sauf la collection classique, alors la solution est trouvée 😀😀😀
@arise
Hi, maybe, just bad luck in the draw of the cards that are offered to you😉
This is not the first time that you are surprised about this 😊I understand your example of people over 50 years old.
The answers you received are valid, of course.
I'm neither Celine nor Manue, but if you understand, like me, that the most recent cards are all cards except the classic collection, then the solution is found 😀😀😀

Yes...well. I haven't played this particular game, but I have played past games with this exact same language.

My post from April of this year:

"The cards are selected among the most recent ones not in your collection and released more than 30 days ago."

There are 458 cards I do not own which were released in 2019, 2020. or 2021. These are the ones I would consider "most recent". I tried a test spin. The four cards offered were released in 2013 (!!!) 2015 (!!!) 2017 (!!!) and 2021.

@Philours
Dans la trentaine de fois où j'ai essayé ce jeu l'*****ée dernière, les cartes "récentes" justement (de 2019 ou 2020 par ex) sont très rarement apparues - d'où ma question. Comme tu dis, j'ai peut-être simplement été malchanceux.

Effectivement, j'ai déjà posé cette question plusieurs fois, et merci d'avoir tenté de m'apporter une réponse. 😊
Pour l'instant nous n'avons que des suppositions, mais aucune réponse claire. Ce n'est pas si évident, puisque même les membres qui ont répondu ont une interprétation différente de cette phrase. Peut-être que cette fois-ci nous aurons une réponse, qui sait... 😉

J'imagine que la personne qui a écrit cette phrase dans le règlement sait à quoi correspondent ces cartes dites "récentes".


Out of 30 or so spins last year, "recent" cards (from 2019 or 2020 for example) showed up very rarely - hence my question. As you said, maybe I was just unlucky.

You're right, I have already asked this question several times, and thank you for trying to answer. 😊
So far we only had guesses, but no clear answer. It isn't so obvious after all, since even the members who answered have a different interpretation of this sentence. Maybe this time we will have an answer, who knows... 😉

I imagine that the person who wrote this sentence in the rules knows which ones are the so-called "recent" cards.

@TallandSlimMan thanks for confirming. 👍

I had over 300 cards available in the store from 2019 and 2020 even excluding the previous 30 days ones. Why aren't any of these selected then?

Like all of the Events, not all of the win options will be to your liking,
in that case your option is to spin again, or to not play.

Randomness is just that, it's random...
5 spins, 40 spins, 100 spins is not enough to draw precise evaluation of the random odds.

the results of the spin are based on the NOT owned cards for that particular Member.
but it doesn't mean that ALL of the results will be as expected.

So if the spin results do not meet with your likings, then you can Spin again, or not.

I used to play roulette, quite a lot.
I spend a hours tracking the spin results to make my own Hot and Cold number list.
when I had Cold numbers than had not come up in 200 spins
I'd start to bet heavier on them, and double up every 5 spins
Because I thought,
It's been 300 spins and they have to come up..

Well 1000 spins later, and $100 lost,
the COLD numbers still had not come up.

but some of the HOT numbers must have came up 10 times.

randomness is random, and you can't predict it, or pattern it.

@Wyld this is so true about randomness. 😎 I remember the early ages of microcomputers some people were creating massive database with all results of the national loterie for the past decades in the hope to play highly probable combinations... 😂

But one point to be strictly accurate. Totem is using pseudo-random generators in their algorithms. That is the bias brought by computing to randomness. 😋

But your explanations and conclusions remain valid anyway. 👍

I had over 300 cards available in the store from 2019 and 2020 even excluding the previous 30 days ones. Why aren't any of these selected then?
Like all of the Events, not all of the win options will be to your liking,
in that case your option is to spin again, or to not play.

Randomness is just that, it's random...
5 spins, 40 spins, 100 spins is not enough to draw precise evaluation of the random odds.

the results of the spin are based on the NOT owned cards for that particular Member.
but it doesn't mean that ALL of the results will be as expected.

So if the spin results do not meet with your likings, then you can Spin again, or not.

You said it in an earlier post: For a member who doesn't have cards from 2020. Most recent will be cards starting from 2020.
At least you tried to give an explanation for "most recent".

The rule doesn't say "cards are randomly selected from all collections except ...", it says "selected among the most recent cards not in your collection and more than 30 days old". I'm not the one making the rules.

Where does it say anything about member's liking? Where did I say anything about my liking?
I replied to your post saying I had many more recent cards available in the store; in fact between 400 & 500 were more recent than cards from 2016.

I get it. The rule says "most recent", the cards drawn are not "among the most recent", so in fact it's just like all the other games, cards are just randomly selected from all collections.
Then why add this rule if it doesn't apply?

I get it. The rule says "most recent", the cards drawn are not "among the most recent", so in fact it's just like all the other games, cards are just randomly selected from all collections.
Then why add this rule if it doesn't apply?

@arise77
Je comprend bien votre interrogation. Si vous vous souvenez de mon post précédent : cartes plus récentes = toutes sauf cartes classiques (considérées comme anciennes) Alors la description du jeu peut être considérée comme correcte.
Il ne faut peut-être pas chercher plus loin que cela 😉😊
@arise77
I understand your question. If you remember my previous post: newer cards = all except classic cards (considered old) then the game description can be considered correct.
Maybe we shouldn't look any further than that 😉😊

@Philours
On est d'accord, on peut tous constater que cette règle ne s'applique pas et que finalement toutes les collections sauf Vg classic sont incluses. Pourquoi ne pas faire une simple correction ?

Pourquoi ne pas faire une simple correction ?

Disons une clarification, alors 👌😉 Si tu veux, pourquoi pas. Proposition est donc faite à totem 😊
Let's say a clarification, then 👌😉 If you want, why not. Proposition is therefore made to totem 😊

Haha justement, une clarification 😄 c'est ce que j'ai demandé dans mon post original :

Could you please clarify from which point/date/year cards are considered "the most recent"? And therefore which ones are not recent? Thanks.

c'est ce que j'ai demandé dans mon post original :

Tout à fait exact, c'est pourquoi j'ai tenté de te répondre😊Mais tu auras peut-être une réponse officielle😶😉

Maybe an Image helps better
three hypothetical members
Member A, Member B, Member C
Cards are Random but Only from the Most Recent Available Cards Not already Owned.
( it is all inclusive of all the cards not already owned )

Member A would have Random Cards Stating from Year 2016 all inclusive to 2007

Member B would have Random Cards Starting with Year 2021 including years 2019, 2015, 2014

Member C would have Random Cards Starting with Year 2020 including years 2019, 2018, 2008, 2007

The card selection is different for each Member.

Because the Selection is Random from All Most Recent Cards NOT owned
you could get many, many Spins that do not include any from your Most Recent Year.
Randomness is just that.

@Wyldanimal
Thanks for trying to answer, but you're not addressing my question.
I understand that all other games pick cards randomly from all collections except Vg classic. We also figured out that this game works just like the others.
The issue here is why state a different rule if it's just the same as for the other games?

When you read this rule:
"The cards are selected among the most recent ones not in your collection and released more than 30 days ago."
Where do you see the notion of randomness over collections from 2007 up to 30 days ago?

If you ask a friend what s/he's been up to recently, do you expect her/him to talk about stuff from 5 years ago or from their childhood? 😀