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New partnership with Sexart

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celine
TEAM
Присоединился в Sep 2007

1966 Сообщения
14 February 2020 (edited)
We are happy to announce that we have dealt a very special offer on Sexart for you to discover their offer for a few cents for one day!

The synergy between iStripper & Sexart has always been strong in terms of Excellence, and most iStripper models are also on Sexart...

This offer appears at the bottom on Epoch payment pages, with a pre-checked box :
"Yes, add $1.95 for a 1 day membership to www.sexart.com recurring at $29.95 every 1 month."

Up to you to keep it or uncheck it :)

Check it out and enjoy^^
SittingDuck
Присоединился в Aug 2017

60 Сообщения
14 February 2020 (edited)
I must say I don't like this sneaky business practice of getting unaware customers to pay for a subscription they may have not wanted by having the box pre-checked. Does ***** my perception of your company to see you doing it.
Ullubu
Присоединился в Dec 2011

748 Сообщения
14 February 2020
Yes, add $1.95 for a 1 day membership to www.sexart.com recurring at $29.95 every 1 month.

This is the standard offer from almost all adult sites. Be it 1-3 days for $1-$3, (and a recurring subscription of 1 month additionally) it's always the same. So nothing special and noteworthy here.
DanielStoSve
Присоединился в May 2019

54 Сообщения
14 February 2020
I must say I don't like this sneaky business practice of getting unaware customers to pay for a subscription they may have not wanted by having the box pre-checked. Does ***** my perception of your company to see you doing it.

I agree, if you're going to partner with another site please atleast keep the box unchecked.
Nobbystiles
Присоединился в Oct 2017

5 Сообщения
14 February 2020
Kinda makes sense - quite a few models past and present are on the site.

Saying that, IS seems to be the more better offer in comparison.

Looking at the profile pics, some of the models have been overly photoshopped.

Any natural beauty has been knackered by filters, and alike.
HansSachs
Присоединился в Mar 2016

989 Сообщения
14 February 2020 (edited)
I looked at "Buy credits" page choosing Epoch and, since:
  • box was not pre-checked, indeed
  • news have been clearly given by Team about such a new offer - to which we are totally free to not adhrere
I have nothing to ***** about, and also hope such a partnership can help the two companies.
njarnb
Присоединился в Nov 2008

76 Сообщения
14 February 2020
If, it isn't a sneaky move, I shall have no ***** !!!
Dorsai6
Присоединился в Apr 2013

1033 Сообщения
14 February 2020 (edited)
This is the standard offer from almost all adult sites.

Yes, it's common, but most common on the sleazier sites. I'm speaking about the pre-checked approach. Nothing against the offer.
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2008

4000 Сообщения
14 February 2020 (edited)
Even with Free software installs, many of them come with a pre-Install of a subscription software.

So it's not uncommon in many aspects to have a pre-checked or pre-authorization included.

The Buyer must always be aware and read the fine print.

Even buying a used car, as is, often there is fine print that you agree to an extended warranty that you will be billed $99.00 a month for.

Everything today, has fine print that you as the Buyer must be aware of.


with all this being said...

iStripper is not doing this.
It is actually a Double check process.
1) You have to Check the Box that you want it.
and then
2) Check a 2nd box to confirm that you agree to it.
GirlOnTop
Присоединился в May 2009

23 Сообщения
14 February 2020
I strongly recall iStripper being located in France, and from what I remember, pre-checked boxes for combined purchases aren't allowed anymore within the eu, so the customer has to conciously activate such a combination. One of very few eu regulations of the past ten years that I actually agree with.
TheEmu
Присоединился в Jul 2012

3309 Сообщения
14 February 2020 (edited)
I thought that Pre-Ticked options were generally regarded as sharp practice - indeed I was under the impression that in the EU they were at best of borderline legality. There are several aspects of Totem's business that I dislike, but accept as normal practice, but this goes way beyond that.
pickle1
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2019

1353 Сообщения
14 February 2020
@Wyldanimal - I'm afraid I have to contradict you here. The screen prints you show have a different version of the payment screen compared to that seen in my version (screenprint attached) and I am on the latest version of software. To see the difference in versions, mine is for epoch and there is a payment option for Paysafe which is missing in yours

As you can see, on my version the box is pre-ticked and there is no second confirmation option. So if you didn't spot it, you would be tied to a recurring subscription to SexArt.

Interestingly, this pre-ticked option only appears on the epoch credit card option - it does not appear on the epoch PayPal option or any of the other billing companies.

I agree with @TheEmu - this is sharp practice and I do believe is contrary to EU regulations.
Ullubu
Присоединился в Dec 2011

748 Сообщения
14 February 2020
I'm from Germany and I use SEPA-Lastschrift. There are no tick-boxes at all. So no problem for me.
pickle1
MODERATOR
Присоединился в Mar 2019

1353 Сообщения
14 February 2020
@Ullubu - what is obvious is that each country potentially gets different payment screens depending upon who operates in that country to provide the payment service and what methods are legal / available.

My issue - having been caught out before by some of these "$1.95 for three days access followed by recurring monthly charge" is how quickly you have to contact the payment provider to cancel the subscription. With this being a one-day offer, you virtually have to cancel it as soon as you've accepted it otherwise you will pay at least one month's recurring $29.95.
SittingDuck
Присоединился в Aug 2017

60 Сообщения
14 February 2020
It shows up as pre-checked for me as well, but I had to change the biller to epoch. It doesn't appear with NETBilling.
peterbanker
Присоединился в Jan 2009

224 Сообщения
14 February 2020
Same as @SittingDuck
FalconAF
Присоединился в Jan 2008

151 Сообщения
14 February 2020
LMAO! The exact reason I still have almost 200 iStripper credits since one of my many previous 500 credit purchase made several months ago. I quit buying iStripper cards. It's gonna take an "I just can't live without her!" model to show up now before I spend my LAST 200 credits on my account here. All because Totem insists I now have to GAMBLE an outrageous amount of credits to get ONE of a model's card when I already own ALL of her other ones.

I've been a member here since 2008. Have numerous models I have BOUGHT ALL their cards, but now I can't get ONE of their cards unless I'm willing to gamble an ungodly amount of money to get it. Plus, here if I want a model in 4K resolution, I have to become a "higher tier" member by paying an additional "fee" each year to download 4K content for the models now.

While if I go join SexArt (or just about ANY OTHER high quality "porn site") for ONE MONTH and give them $29.95, I can download their ENTIRE website content at ALL (and ANY) resolutions for ALL the product(s)...INCLUDING the 4K content.

Hmmm. Spend $50 here to only be able to download SOME of a model's content (after being a "Loyal Customer" for 11 years), or $29.95 at another "porn" site to be able to download ALL of a model's content without being treated like I'm a financial moron.

Totem, please quit trying to screw me around. You are seriously 200 credits and ONE MODEL away from losing an 11-year customer. I come here for the MODEL products...not to get financially ripped off "playing gambling games" to get it. You can let the people who want to play the gambling games continue to do it if they want. But give the rest of us a REASONABLE option at PURCHASING ALL the model's content she may have.
HombreSinSombra
Присоединился в Oct 2010

1249 Сообщения
14 February 2020
Falcon, buddy. We used to be 'friends' here. I understand when peeps might get upset when changes happen. Routine is a normal, 'ANY' animal condition.

All of us are free to spend where we want to. But you know as well as I do that Totem cornered the market with VG, VGHD and iStripper. Etc.... Afaik, there is no other LEGAL option for this kind of content. Totem nailed it 22 years ago...
HansSachs
Присоединился в Mar 2016

989 Сообщения
14 February 2020
But seriously... is really there anyone of us who don't control everything accurately before making any online purchase, specially on a porn site?
Dfner
Присоединился в Feb 2018

643 Сообщения
14 February 2020 (edited)
@FalconAF and others

Maybe this shouldn't be said aloud, but the fact is that if you want to get all the videos of the producers such as MetArt, MetArtX, SexArt... etc. (you can continue this list with dozens of other major studios), there are places in the "Internet" where people upload pirated back catalogue of these sites ALL THE TIME. Even the photosets of iStripper releases seem to be available there within hours of their release, but the point is: the performances of iStripper (the animations, the video files of the cards) ARE NOT THERE.

So, in a sense, it is natural that some websites (unfortunately losing the battle against constant piracy) are selling their memberships relatively cheaply these days while iStripper is still charging more for their product. iStripper has succeeded in the "battle against piratism" excellently and they can still charge realistic and IMHO justified prices for their "products".
HansSachs
Присоединился в Mar 2016

989 Сообщения
14 February 2020 (edited)
I agree with other members, though, that it would be a better and more fair practice from the company if the box was unchecked, as it was (for me at least) some hours ago - while now it is pre-checked.
FalconAF
Присоединился в Jan 2008

151 Сообщения
14 February 2020
@FalconAF and others...but the point is: the performances of iStripper (the animations, the video files of the cards) ARE NOT THERE.

I ***** to burst your bubble, but I've done professional IT Security for over 40 years now. If you can't find the iStripper products "for free" it's just because you don't know where to look. They may not work with the iStripper GUI interface, but there is nothing stopping anyone from downloading "pirated" versions of VG/iStipper content and playing them using OTHER methods.

And no...I'm not going to tell anyone where to get them or how to do that here. I've never pirated any Totem content...but it most CERTAINLY is availble if someone would want it, knows where to get it, and knows how to play it without having to use the iStripper GUI at all.
Dfner
Присоединился в Feb 2018

643 Сообщения
14 February 2020 (edited)
@FalconAF I take your word for it, although it's not what I would have liked to have learned... I still hope/think this must be one of the best protected adult products in the market and that it has survived much better than most competitors in the fight against piracy.
HombreSinSombra
Присоединился в Oct 2010

1249 Сообщения
14 February 2020
There will always be illegal piracy sites. And anything worth having will always be hackable. Me? I just wanna watch my favourite TV shows as they become available...
SetFuego
Присоединился в Mar 2008

730 Сообщения
14 February 2020 (edited)
I like SexArt and also have a lifetime membership there. But a pre-checked box for an offer on a payment page is the most awkward way to advertise. It is not for nothing that pre-checked boxes are (rightly) among consumer protections on the hit list.

iStripper and SexArt do not need this kind of imposition, just kindly ask the user to click themselves before paying, never pre-checked boxes!
Ironman79
Присоединился в Dec 2010

439 Сообщения
14 February 2020
I'm surprised this isn't a "locked" thread like the TGIF's are now, anything that has to do with spending money or giving up more credits beyond the normal amount is almost off limits.

It's almost like because of past things that have happened the vocal side of the community aka the forum is always ready to oppose what the company wants to do.
pumpdude48
Присоединился в May 2016

390 Сообщения
14 February 2020
People as a general rule don't want to take responsibility for their actions, especially when there is a negative result.

Whether the box is checked or not shouldn't matter.

Off and on I have been buying and canceling subscriptions to this sort of thing for a long time and I can't remember a time when there wasn't a checked check box that grants a 'free' one day subscription to some other site to be re-billed at an exorbitant fee the very next day.

It is the person who is buying the product or service who should be making sure that they are getting what they expect from their payment and ONLY what they expect.

Too many people don't take the time to read the fine print (why is the print even there if not to be read...?) and then want to ***** foul when they get taken advantage of....

People should quit trying to pass the blame for their own lack of attentiveness and stop relying on government rules and laws to protect them from themselves...
SittingDuck
Присоединился в Aug 2017

60 Сообщения
15 February 2020
People as a general rule don't want to take responsibility for their actions, especially when there is a negative result.Whether the box is checked or not shouldn't matter. Off and on I have been buying and canceling subscriptions to this sort of thing for a long time and I can't remember a time when there wasn't a checked check box that grants a 'free' one day subscription to some other site to be re-billed at an exorbitant fee the very next day.It is the person who is buying the product or service who should be making sure that they are getting what they expect from their payment and ONLY what they expect.Too many people don't take the time to read the fine print (why is the print even there if not to be read...?) and then want to ***** foul when they get taken advantage of....People should quit trying to pass the blame for their own lack of attentiveness and stop relying on government rules and laws to protect them from themselves...
So you're okay with customers being taken advantage of for missing a small detail? Okay then......
pumpdude48
Присоединился в May 2016

390 Сообщения
15 February 2020
So you're okay with customers being taken advantage of for missing a small detail? Okay then......

I am not ok with any attempt to mislead or take advantage of anyone.

However, I am also not ok with people shifting blame from where it should be placed when the means to not be taken advantage of are in place from the beginning.

If there wasn't a check box at all or if there was no fine print or if it was hidden on another page, and you got signed up for 'extras' then you are being taken advantage of beyond your control. And have every right to be outraged.

But that isn't the case here.

There is a check box and whether checked or not from the start shouldn't make any difference. The fact that the box is there indicates an available choice and puts the responsibility for seeing what it does squarely on your shoulders.

I don't like the idea of the little check box any more than you appear to but I accept the fact that it is there and that if I don't see what it does there may be consequences not to my likeing if I ignore it and proceed with the purchase.

But then personal responsibility, like common sense seems to be waning in favor of government laws which are "protecting us" right out of any kind of free choice we used to have. Soon the government will protect us from ourselves to the point that we won't have any choice left....
SetFuego
Присоединился в Mar 2008

730 Сообщения
15 February 2020
And yet any kind of pre-checked boxes is not a friendly accommodation, but a company's attempt to outwit the customer. And there is absolutely no understanding of me on this, and luckily the courts see it that way too.

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