@dar2112v

Re: The best thing for totem is to build it's customer base as if does not cost them them substantially more to sell a 1,000,000 cards versus 1,000 cards. The XXX cards might help build the customer base but they must also be careful not to offend their core customers with higher prices or dilute the product with cards that have little interest or worse are a turn off to the base clientele.

I agree. It would seem that more diversity should help build the base. However, Totem must continue to produce the kinds of cards that are most popular with their current customers as well. That is Totem's dilemma. How much different can they afford to produce and how much is needed to satisfy current customers?

I follow iStripper on Twitter. Perhaps I should post an occasional positive comment.

**Comment to dar2112v**

1.) In general I prefer the NON-XXX cards so the new format can only have upside for me. I own plenty of the XXX shows but purchased because of the girl and not because it was XXX.

Alright, it is good to have a taste of Card Type you like and prefer to see instead of the other type. You prefer to see Regular Cards, so the New XXX Cards will have more Regular Features, so.. for you nothing else left to wish for. But that is just single-minded of what just you would like to see in ALL type of cards. Why, does peeple like you want ALL the cards EXACTLY to be the same? I would like to meet customers that are able to say:
"Yeh, I can enjoy the iStripper Regular Cards, these Cards entertains me. I personally dislike the XXX Cards BUT aslong there are customers around us really like this XXX Explicit Cards, we shoudn't change it because we should have both type of cards for all types of customers. so, why would you like to claim all types of cards just for your own satisfaction. Do you think I even consider "Totem Entertainment" should change the "Regular Cards" because I prefer to see XXX Content over dancing performance? no, I advise them to keep the two types of cards differently.. I dont need the Regular iStripper to be so badly alike the XXX Card to be able to enjoy XXX Cards. I prefer to see XXX cards over the Regular Cards, so I have always told myself..I will keep my hands of from the Regular Cards. It is not fair to claim the Regular Cards aswell meanwhile I experience my Joy with XXX Cards. - I used to be a Deskbabes user.

2.) I would not spend more for for XXX nor any other special shows at least not much more. This is a light diversion for me and I think of the money I spend the same as I do for my morning coffee. That will not change if prices go up I will buy few cards.

Ok?, that is great 😀 Understandable.

3.) I too want Totem to thrive but I wont be donating money? The best thing for totem is to build it's customer base as if does not cost them them substantially more to sell a 1,000,000 cards versus 1,000 cards. The XXX cards might help build the customer base but they must also be careful not to offend their core customers with higher prices or dilute the product with cards that have little interest or worse are a turn off to the base clientele. Instead of donating money maybe consider promoting the product and help them find more customers.

Yeh, alright.. that is completly not my area or zone where I'm suppose to be. Totem Entertainment have to decide by themselves what is usefull or not. I never have or had a business myself so. Dont ask me about numbers. I just know what my desires are and I want the XXX Format to be like Deskbabes and customers that enjoy Regular Performance should watch iStripper Regular Cards, Keep your hand off the XXX Format Cards I'm about to think. A really fair customer would say to Totem Entertainment "Huh, we already have iStripper Cards, "Naaahhhh we dont need another XXX Card to be Regular", I would have said in comments: "Naaahhhh we dont need another Regular Card to be XXX Card. Explain to me, please: If you enjoy the Regular Content so much but only the 'regular content', why do you want that very small of XXX performance recorded extra in your Regular type of cards (New XXX Format).

4.) I expect only a small percentage of customers read the forum. I really only started to see the upcoming cards and casting then later to see the other (very talented) members artwork such as the full screen shows. Over time I became more interested in other topics but I still frequently go weeks without looking at these forums. For totem the only pole that should be relevant is sales. I've been a member for a long time and I've seen them experiment with various things and I'm sure the things that generate profits they stick with and the things that don't get pushed for the next experiment.

They never should have done this experiment. I hope it fails totally and in my experience I only seems to meet Regular Card Lovers. I really hope the company sees that. What does customers have to say about XXX type of cards while they prefer to watch iStripper Cards anyway, that is so unfair. The majority of Regular Lovers have just ruined my joy in watching XXX cards. Happy now? 😪 ...be happy with your hybrid extra regular card ...meanwhile you dont even like the XXX content afterall.

I'm mad and i'm angry,... again.. 😠🔞😢

I hope you watching "Totem Entertainment" isn't strange the one with the biggest mouth (ME) is able to say "Dont mess with the "Regular" type of Card" because I know there are iStripper Regular Card Lovers among us? Seems pretty hard from them to say that about XXX Cards, the community want to have another regular type so badly lets forget the Deskbabe-Lovers. thank you, ..really.

Terbone,

Only my opinion, but if you ask people for their opinions, then disagree with anyone who doesn't agree with you, then people will stop posting comments.

Just what I have observed over the years. There are no rules around this of course.

**Comment to Cartreft**
Of course, I understand. I ask for customers their opinions, fair enough but that aswell creates other opinions/reactions from myself. If I read those opinions from them, mostly I have to say something back that is how it works for me. That is the way of communication, right? 😄

Meanwhile I have a conversation with other customers I know Totem Entertainment is watching aswell. So, that's why I communicate with the customers aswell sometimes with a specifc message/statement towards the company.

Look, I really dont want to scare peeple off because I'm an reasonable human being. But this is my way to let peeple know how serious this problem is for me but most customers seems to think "Oohhh, I didn't like the XXX Card anyway so if the new card contains more Regular features "Haha" even better for me", probally not think about the peeple that are really ***** by this new direction the company went to, like myself. 😪

I cannot deny about the fact my comments is not really friendly, I'm not happy if I have to talk about this subject. I think we all Customers are united as some kind of "Team" aswell and if I noticed by a person in specific his/her comment/opinion brings only good for themselves, that will kind of trigger me but I will always be polite and I will never throw disrepectful words to someone. I will always show repect to others but I would like to let other peeple know aswell if I think his/her opinion is not reasonable. A Opinion is an Opinion of course, but can be unreasonable aswell. 😒

~ I want all the customers to find their entertainment in the software, for their desires in specific. That's why we are in need of two different kind of Cards. The Forums proofs enough we two types of customers stand over eachother BUT I dont want to "fight" for what I once embraced... by Deskbabes.

To the costumers
I'm sorry if my 'angry' comments have scare you off. It's not I dislike you totally as person if I disagree with your opinion. It is just the opinion that upsets me at the moment, we can laugh together tomorrow. 😉

**Comment to Team OR Customers**
About the Card "Milana - Check My Pulse" is this a New XXX Format Card? 😕

... Of course it is... Bummer 😢

@Terbone

While watching the latest xxx card from Milana ~ "Check my Pulse". I had to check back halfway through this card to see if it was in fact being sold as xxx. The biggest noticeable omission was lack of "Pink" ie: little if any spreading of lips while playing around like drumming the clito etc..

In fact much of the xxx work concealed the artistes vulva behind her hand. I don't even think it was because of any particular instuction from Totem. It is just what happened during the shooting.

If "pink" becomes a rarity in the new XXX, then it becomes another product subject to a modified market. If Totem need to limit "pink content" to certain artists only, so be it. I would rather a girl feels totally comfortable with what she shares, because ART is not an assembly line of models who all have to be processed according to our whims. "Happy girls" means models doing what comes naturally to portray what makes them climax & IMHO that is what TOTemxxx here could or should be all about.

**Comment to EverthangForever**

While watching the latest xxx card from Milana ~ "Check my Pulse". I had to check back halfway through this card to see if it was in fact being sold as xxx. The biggest noticeable omission was lack of "Pink" ie: little if any spreading of lips and playing around like drumming the clito etc..

Oh, oké.

In fact much of the xxx work concealed the artistes vulva behind her hand. I don't even think it was because of any particular instuction from Totem. It is just what happened during the shooting.

Alright.

If "pink" becomes a rarity in the new XXX, then it becomes another product subject to a modified market. If Totem need to limit "pink content" to certain artists only, so be it. I would rather a girl feels totally comfortable with what she shares, because ART is not an assembly line of models who all have to be processed according to our whims. "Happy girls" means models doing what comes naturally to portray what makes them cum & IMHO that is what TOTemxxx here could or should be all about.

Maybe Totem Entertaiment can variefy this? for now it just seems only the customers are saying models are not really feel confortable by shooting XXX clips. And indeed I would enjoy the show even more if I know the model have felt confortable and have given their show 100% naturally. There is actually two things I ask from Totem Entertainment: 1> To put more Sound by the New XXX Format and 2> To leave the Regular Entertainment clips away from XXX Cards because that would make the XXX Type of even more unique. I dont want another Regular Cards.

**Comment to Totem Entertainment**
Hi Team Totem!, Can you please variefy to us (me) if there are any troubles in finding Models for XXX Cards? Models that are not feeling confortable in making these kind of shows? because I hear this little bit to much from other customers. I always keep in mind XXX Cards is going further and ask more from the Model but do they really feel that disconfortable that we are about to stop with XXX Cards? or as now, you need to change your type of XXX Card not based on choices but you have to?

Thanks for reading, Terbone

@Terbone, when @Rex talks about "the DNA", I think he is referring to the two words STRIP and TEASE. Milana captures both of those very well in her card. What concerns me, is that @Rex claims the cost of producing new xxx clips should be the same as regular, so I am assuming no extra model payment was due for shooting these type of clips.

Although I voted for option one, I would prefer only one type of iStripper card was sold, with a level of hotness advisory note or something. The price can be scheduled in a more hierachical way according to that level. Now that more peeps can access & edit iSClip manager to determine what they do or do not see, then eventually whether it is istripper regular or iStripperxxx becomes a non- issue.

**Comment to EverthangForever**

While watching the latest xxx card from Milana ~ "Check my Pulse". I had to check back halfway through this card to see if it was in fact being sold as xxx. The biggest noticeable omission was lack of "Pink" ie: little if any spreading of lips while playing around like drumming the clito etc..

Can I conclude even you notice now the new Cards goes far below "Very Soft" XXX Card? 😜 no problem, I really respect Regular Card Lovers. 😊 ... I just saying this because you said, you had the check twice if it was a real XXX Card or not.

In the XXX Cards I dont expect Non-Stop XXX content and every second fingering, no.. totally not. The show have to be given pure and naturally by the Model, only then she is able to feel confortable.

I never had the idea "Blue Angel", "Bella", "Viola", "Sybil" and many other Models has felt 'disconfortable' while recording their Shows. Now I ask you:

• "How do you know these Models in the past and New Upcomming Models doesn't feel confortable?" or is this just your own imagination because "Totem Entertainment have to ask the models a bit more for a XXX Card, so it is "Most likely these models dislike this extra request from the company, Totem Entertainment?"

Of course, I dont deny it...It can be true but do you have a "Source" that variefy this? 😎

@EverthangForever - where did you see Rex claim that the cost of producing new xxx clips should be the same as regular. The only post I can remember Rex saying anything on the subject was to say that the cost of the new XXX clips was the same as the old XXX clips with no mention of how their costs related to that of the regular clips.

@Terbone, No, I am not implying Totem models do anything against their wishes however extra payment for xxx implies a model may choose to do what she would otherwise not prefer to do. I trust Totem in this regard. For instance there was the issue in the past of models standing penetration being uncomfortable for some, so it was abandoned rather than persisting with higher payment incentives.

**Comment to EverthangForever**
I'm a Deskbabe-Lover, EverthangForever, do I have to apologize where I stand for? I hope not, (I highly need to defend the reason I participate the software/forums)

Please, dont come up again what "Rex" said in his thread about the DNA purposes in XXX Cards.. I guess we all know I'm totally against this idea/subject. I really dont want to explain everything, again. I think my statement is described more then clearly over 6 different Threads. Me and the Team are not on the same line at the moment and they know that.

I think: 'Totem Entertainment' suppose to protect all their different types of Customers, not only the Regular Customers, seems they have forgotten the company have XXX-Customers aswell (Deskbabes Users).

And yeah, I dont consider you as XXX-Customer, if you want the orignal Regular Type Cards and an another Regular Type of Card, that replaces the type of Card I like to watch and enjoy. My feeling of XXX entertainment is just gone while customers like you can enjoy the two types of cards, congratulations. 😐

Is it really that strange I see customers like you as a threat? And then all of you customers together are in the majority, I have alot of reasons to be scared. If Totem Entertainment had done their job right, I didn't needed to be scared.

Unbelievable I just had to say that 😢

@TheEmu, sorry was a typo, I meant to say regular xxx clips, not meaning regular standard clips.
@Terbone

Can I conclude even you notice now the new Cards goes far below "Very Soft" XXX Card? 😜

Yes even I noticed that. It should not have been labelled as a xxx card IMHO.

@Terbone

Re: Availability of XXX models

Check @Rex prior posts in this forum. He doesn't post that often and I believe he has addressed this issue.

I usually make my decision on buying a xxx based on the girl's voice sooo if that can be fixed its all good with me.

People,

Please ALL be careful some comments are getting too close to be, being personal in their nature and what can be deemed a personal attack is not welcome.

I respect people's right's to their own opinions from either side, but lets make sure we keep it friendly please.

Once it gets too personal, it usually descends very quickly into unpleasantness and then the mods will need to step in.

Please spare us that necessity.

😇

Oke 😉

Thanks @Rex for poll!
Now is strip card with add xxx. Do question is: Worth or worthless cards? : ) If model has three O and do it 50 min long think is wow. Go back to first XXX card Lia Tylor. Dildo she use. Do you have ones yet little bit longer. This is show and girls are different. In some clips do is cosy to learn on one hand?
Do is bad if model use two toys? Some clips or couple of minutes sexy strip continue with hot long show? How with price? Try to do poll too. Think about duo too.

**Comment to Dorsai6**

Re: Availability of XXX models

Check @Rex prior posts in this forum. He doesn't post that often and I believe he has addressed this issue.

There are so many threads about the New XXX Format I'm totally lost right now 😜 .. I doesn't seem able to find this "Post" by forums or Rex. Can you help me with a link? or can Rex maybe variefy this? 😎

@Terbone

You can look up Rex as a member and then look up all his post's. I had to go back to Nov 2016 to find these two:

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/34885/1#post517845

Всё о iStripper / Lack Of Duo's

Duo cards cost twice as much to produce and don't sell twice as much. To our understanding there is always one of the two girls members don't like as much as the other and nobody is ready to pay doubl...

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/34809/1#post516565

Всё о iStripper / StripperXXX

Girls performing XXX shows cost more money to produce than regular shows. Finding models who perform XXX for the same pay as regular shows became nearly impossible. We had a very negative feedback on...

I don't know of any easy way to search the threads for this kind of information, but it is there.

**Comment to Dorsai6**
At first I would like to thank you for your effort to gather these information! really appreciated! 😊

Duo cards cost twice as much to produce and don't sell twice as much.
To our understanding there is always one of the two girls members don't like as much as the other and nobody is ready to pay double price for it.
Timing two big stars on the same day is a challenge also as they tend to cancel and reschedule often.
There will be more duos, when the opportunity is there, but we won't mass product them anymore.

• This Comment goes about finding the right Models together to create "Duo" Cards. I cannot read from the text it is about models for XXX recording clips (solo card) is hard to find. it is challenge for the company to find the right Duo's together. Yeah, understandable.

Finding models who perform XXX for the same pay as regular shows became nearly impossible.

• From what I read from it, this text goes about "Finding models for XXX Cards is near impossible to find if they have to produce XXX cards for the same price as Regular Cards". Yes, of course! They are right because they are about to perform a show that ask a bit more from them, to go a bit further personally compared to Regular Cards.

We had a very negative feedback on this forum when we raised XXX show prices in the past and dropped the idea back then.

• Totem Entertainment was about to raise prices of XXX Cards in overall and the community didn't really supported that idea by given negative feedback, so they dropped this idea.

~ Where do you read "Models" for iStripperXXX/Deskbabes for Solo Cards is a challenge, hard to find? Can you Quote the sentence maybe for me? 😊


Thanks for your time effort, Dorsai6 😎

@Terbone,

I don't have the time to do any more research on this matter and I don't remember how long ago it was. I think it happened when VG became iStripper. As I recall Totem repriced all the XXX cards. People *****. Totem reverted to the same price as the iStripper cards and gave refunds.

I the second message, Rex said "Finding models who perform XXX for the same pay as regular shows became nearly impossible." To me that means that it is difficult (a challenge) to find XXX models at a price Totem is willing to pay.

It seems that Totem is now exploring the possibility of producing XXX cards at a higher price than regular cards. That could improve the availability of XXX cards in the future if people are willing to pay more for them. Would you pay, say, 30% more for an XXX card? I would, but only for a model I find exceptionally attractive.

**Comment to Dorsai6**
Yeh, sure I would pay more for XXX Cards, without hesitate. 😜

Thanks for your answer. 😎

Some comments by me to the last messages (quoting very old statements by the Team) on this thread:


1. The production of xxx cards never was suspended - so it's still profitable for Totem.
2. Rex recently stated that producing the new xxx format has same costs of the old one - and that confirms point 1.
3. Despite the closing of the US studio, Team always managed, and manages, to find quite a bunch of models performing xxx content.


So, I don't think rumors about huge costs of production / lack of models to be still true.


4. That said, please remember that many users like xxx cards and buy lots of them, but would NOT do it at all if their price would increase. I am one of such members.

I am drawn to the XXX and Duo cards. I like it when the models start out dressed and get undressed. I have Full Nudity cards, however I am disapointed with some because the model does not spend enough time nude and expressing herself physically. You do a great job. Different people like different things. That's why you have the site set up like you do! More explicit preview is a great improvement. You get to see what the model really looks like. Keep up the good work!!!

I am drawn to the XXX and Duo cards. I like it when the models start out dressed and get undressed. I have Full Nudity cards, however I am disapointed with some because the model does not spend enough time nude and expressing herself physically. You do a great job. Different people like different things. That's why you have the site set up like you do! More explicit preview is a great improvement. You get to see what the model really looks like. Keep up the good work!!!

Also, it would be great if all models had XXX cards available. It's frustrating when you see a model you like, however would like to see more of her than just nudity. Thanks

@TUT69 - you say

Also, it would be great if all models had XXX cards available. It's frustrating when you see a model you like, however would like to see more of her than just nudity. Thanks

However it would be even more frustrating to discover that there had been a potential model that you liked but that the only reason she did not make any cards is because she does not do XXX.

@Terbone, here is a disturbing trend: No real full nudity tags !!
Naomi Benett ~ After 5 O'clock.
A NewXXX? that apparently only strips down to stockings.
Problem is too many just download everything labelled 'xxx' & never comment
and those who do not purchase, have nothing / nowhere to base a comment on.
So even the initial sales figures will not register dissatisfactions that translate later into lower sales.
Very sad day indeed :-/