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3K on 1080p IPS Monitor Definitely Worth It

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cdub87
Присоединился в Apr 2008

397 Сообщения
10 September 2016 (edited)
I recalled a while back that play 3K on a 1080p monitor did not make a difference and was not worth the extra space. I can truthly say this is false. I have a el cheapo 22" IPS AOC flat screen. I can imagine if you have a TN panel or running over VGA the difference will not be noticed. DVI or any other digital cable will be in for a suprise. It is not like when you watched your first HD movie coming from a dvd player but the image just "pops" on the taskbar looking life like. To me, the image is just so more vivid. So if you have a higher end 1080p monitor, space for the increase in size and your computer can play 3K go right ahead and just try a model or 2.

System Specs
  • AMD FX 8320E Octa-Core @4.1GHz
  • 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz PNY
  • 256GB Samsung EVO 850 2.5" SSD
  • 5TB Toshiba HDD 7.2K RPM(Model Storage)
  • 2GB Nvidia GT 420 DDR3( AMD Radeon RX460-470 Coming Soon)
Post your system specs so we can get a baseline of what the requirements of 3K playback maybe.

Dorsai6
Присоединился в Apr 2013

1033 Сообщения
11 September 2016
I'm curious: What scale setting are you using? Is it greater than 75%? In my tests with a high-end Mac and a 1080p display I can notice a difference only at about 90% or larger. I don't think the quality of the monitor matters, but the graphics cards is very important in rescaling a 3K card to fit 1080p.

Normally I run iStripper on a 4K display with a scale of 60% and that is great of 3K cards and acceptable for 1080p cards. 720p cards look terrible at a scale of more than about 40%.
cdub87
Присоединился в Apr 2008

397 Сообщения
11 September 2016
60% small. Monitor certainly matters and the connection used. When I got this monitor and used a vga cable it looked better than the cheap tn panels that used to come with desktops. I went to dvi and holy crap the detail and color was gorgeous. That what I'm seeing with the 3k cards on a all ready great picture.
goldiecharleston
Присоединился в Dec 2008

340 Сообщения
11 September 2016
I've always used DVI, even with my 1280x1024 monitors. the image quality is much better so if anyone reading this is still using a VGA cable and have DVI or HDMI connections available on their PC and screen, make the switch asap ;)
POPEYED
Присоединился в Jul 2013

1342 Сообщения
11 September 2016
wtf is DVI
cdub87
Присоединился в Apr 2008

397 Сообщения
11 September 2016 (edited)
Its the video only signal cable equal of HDMI. I am using a DVI to HDMI cable at this moment to a hdmi switcher to run my computer and a xbox one to my PC Monitor. My xbox nor my PC sees the cable as any different.
POPEYED
Присоединился в Jul 2013

1342 Сообщения
11 September 2016
They're identical twins??? :P
cdub87
Присоединился в Apr 2008

397 Сообщения
11 September 2016
8 core cpu with 8GBs of ram
shodan084
Присоединился в Dec 2007

1652 Сообщения
12 September 2016
I recently made the change. I was always using a vga cable on a small 21" screen. After upgrading to a 24" and installing a Geforce 970 I decided to install an HDMI lead. I can report mixed across the board... it could be the better hardware but some games look terrible (no names mentioned)!
Loading Valeria/The 5th degree as my test subject...
shodan084
Присоединился в Dec 2007

1652 Сообщения
12 September 2016 (edited)
...I've just tried desktop 45% & 60% zoom and I'm only noticing marginal quality gains with marginal performance loss.
It's full screen where you notice the difference. I've been running at only 75% and the quality is a little better but performance takes a hit. A 1080p girl uses about 7% of the overall processor while a 3k girl uses 12/15%. At 100% screen size the image does look a little cleaner and a bit crisp.

I'm veering towards "you should get your eyes checked" ;)

Maybe the subject viewed is making a difference to my scores. Valeria is one hot girl! ;)
cdub87
Присоединился в Apr 2008

397 Сообщения
12 September 2016 (edited)
What kind of monitor you have? If its just a regular LED/LCD that is why.
shodan084
Присоединился в Dec 2007

1652 Сообщения
12 September 2016
VS248H HD LED.
cdub87
Присоединился в Apr 2008

397 Сообщения
12 September 2016
Yep, so my theory on the IPS technology is looking to be correct. Better color reproduction and cleaner crisper image.
shodan084
Присоединился в Dec 2007

1652 Сообщения
12 September 2016
Hmm.... apart from the 0.02mm in pixel pitch these monitors are practically identical...
I'm only running 2GB more graphics memory than you on DDR5...

I suppose it's all in the eye of the beholder.

Glad that it makes such a difference for you... however I do agree that the HDMI is a better technology. VGA for me is definitely the past... ;)
HombreSinSombra
Присоединился в Oct 2010

1249 Сообщения
12 September 2016
Hey guys. I've been without internet for a full week. Nothing I could do about that :(

I've been saying all along that if your comp has enough processing power, memory and space then 3K is the way to go.

My specs:

iCore i5 4440 @3.1 Ghz
8GB Kingston Ram DDR3
GeForce GTX650

I've stated this many times before but my monitor is a standard 1080P LCD Samsung 40" TV. I've also stated many times that I can REALLY see the difference between 1080P and 3K cards on this screen.

I think that smaller screens might not show so much difference.

I also use HDMI. That was the reason I specced my GPU to link with my TV, when I built this PC.
VGA is way too old for anything graphics based. DVI is also falling behind as it only handles video.


cdub87
Присоединился в Apr 2008

397 Сообщения
12 September 2016 (edited)
That makes sense yours is a Samsung. I know they are pricey but Samsung makes some of the best displays. I have a older 32in 720p Samsung and I swear the picture quality is better than the cheaper 40" 4K tvs coming out. I want to replace but the picture is just sooooo gorgeous. Mine is a little 22" but like I said if your looking for a big difference like when watched your first HD movie it is not that.
POPEYED
Присоединился в Jul 2013

1342 Сообщения
12 September 2016
Well I currently am using a VGA cable (at my main cumputer) with my 23' 1080p LED sexy Lenovo monitor...I think it is IPS but I'm not sure...I have a "Blue Rigger" HDMI cable...but I am currently using it in the living room with a 40' 1080p Samsung HDTV...the HDMI cable is also sexy and great quality...nice thick "rope" construction with gold plating...I'm going to buy another off of Amazon to replace the VGA cable with...I use to switch the cables back and forth but I got sick of doing that so yeah...lol
POPEYED
Присоединился в Jul 2013

1342 Сообщения
12 September 2016 (edited)
and yeah Samsung is good ***** :D

HombreSinSombra
Присоединился в Oct 2010

1249 Сообщения
12 September 2016 (edited)
Btw... My Samsung TV is about 6 years old and still going strong :) Yay Samsung! ;)

Edit: POP... Buy a HDMI gold plated cable. Here in Spain, they are less than 20 Euros :) You'll love it :D
POPEYED
Присоединился в Jul 2013

1342 Сообщения
12 September 2016 (edited)
Did you not read what I typed??? I already said I have one hahaha...I'm just going to buy another but I got mine for less than half the price of what you paid :P
shodan084
Присоединился в Dec 2007

1652 Сообщения
13 September 2016
Fighting over brand names?

Pretty sad.
I guess it really comes down to what you want to use it for. Asus runs, as a theme, throughout my architecture. Therefore, when it came to choosing a gaming monitor, where else would I look? ;)

I used to do a really basic job in food production. When they brought in a hopper of potatoes, it was divvied up and 50% of the potatoes were washed, scrubbed, chopped and stuck into oil for a brand name. The other 50% were put in a different oil and packet for a cheap brand. Take from that what you will...

Does gold grillz make you more gangster??? ;)
cdub87
Присоединился в Apr 2008

397 Сообщения
13 September 2016
Not fighting just recognizing the freaking giant machine known as Samsung. All Samsung, LG and Sharp, and some else design, produce, and manufacture there screens. Therefor they get to choice the creme of the crop. AOC, Asus, Acer(not 100%) buy panels from said manufacturers. Could they get that premium panel? Sure. Will they? Probably not. After they buy the panel and figure in cost it would probably cost more than the Samsung and what does a consumer do when two products of equal quality are available? They buy the cheaper product. Your Asus is better for gaming as it has a better response time than IPS displays. IPS are better at content creation and photography as what can been seen when you use 3K content. Better reproduction of colors and crisper image quality. Yes it is subjective but by the poll the majority agrees that it does make a difference.
POPEYED
Присоединился в Jul 2013

1342 Сообщения
13 September 2016
huh??? lol whatever I'm going to bed goodnight -_-
shodan084
Присоединился в Dec 2007

1652 Сообщения
13 September 2016
Maybe we are getting our gold wires crossed... ;)
Technically, I'm agreeing with you! At 100% on HDMI the image is cleaner and crisp... on a bigger monitor that would look good.
However where we disagree is daily usage (and maybe brand name) the trade up for hard drive space and processor power at 75% is marginal...

On paper, monitor wise our DPI is the same, perhaps the sharper image comes from the fact that my DPI has to cover 2" squared more...
dannyova158
Присоединился в Jul 2016

1 Сообщения
13 September 2016
I recalled  a while back that play 3K on a 1080p monitor did not make a difference and was not worth the extra space.  I can truthly say this is false.    I have a el cheapo 22" IPS AOC flat screen.  I can imagine if you have a TN panel or running over VGA the difference will not be noticed.  DVI or any other digital cable will be in for a suprise.  It is not like when you watched your first HD movie coming from a dvd player but the image just "pops" on the taskbar looking life like.  To me, the image is just so more vivid.   So if you have a higher end 1080p monitor, space for the increase in size and your computer can play 3K go right ahead and just try a model or 2.

System Specs
  • AMD FX 8320E Octa-Core @4.1GHz
  • 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz PNY
  • 256GB Samsung EVO 850 2.5" SSD
  • 5TB Toshiba HDD 7.2K RPM(Model Storage)
  • 2GB Nvidia GT 420 DDR3( AMD Radeon RX460-470 Coming Soon)
Post your system specs so we can get a baseline of what the requirements of 3K playback maybe.

POPEYED
Присоединился в Jul 2013

1342 Сообщения
13 September 2016
Just do what works best for you!
HombreSinSombra
Присоединился в Oct 2010

1249 Сообщения
13 September 2016
Nobody's fighting here. 2 or 3 of us agreed that Samsung make quality products, built to last. Other companies do too :)

On a side note, 17 years ago I bought a 19" CRT monitor for 300 UK pounds. It had a .24 pixel matrix. (Just about as good is it could get then). This came with 4 USB ports as an extra plus quite a few AV ports and served me well for 10 years. It was extremely sharp for video. I forget the name of the company as it was a very small UK based one but the main part was that it was a SONY Trinitron tube. The same Sony branded screen was selling at over 600 UK pounds and with no USB ports or other extras. That was one of the best buys I ever made :)

PS: @POP... Yeah I read what you said. I meant you should buy another one, buddy! Very cheap these days... :D
POPEYED
Присоединился в Jul 2013

1342 Сообщения
14 September 2016
That's not what you meant you nerd...but nice try :P
POPEYED
Присоединился в Jul 2013

1342 Сообщения
14 September 2016
Well I just recently shut down my computer and made the switch from VGA to HDMI...however I am not so sure I noticed a noticeable change in picture quality...on top of that when I turned up the volume on the master control of my audio interface/mixer I get a bunch of weird noise...this doesn't happen when I have the VGA plugged in...I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that HDMI transmits both video/audio...

anyway...I think HDMI cables are better for TV's and VGA or DVI (whatever that is) are better for a computer...with that said I'm going to have to look into getting a DVI cable and testing that out...yurp
shodan084
Присоединился в Dec 2007

1652 Сообщения
15 September 2016
Digital Video Input; DVI

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