Thanx ALERTE AN Starryk, the only problem I have now is to load them all together as a collection of all categorise them into card numbers and choose the ones to keep, I'm not ***** after all all of you who put your styles together and published them for public exhibition did all the hard work (thank you all, please keep it up, hey I made a pun lol) and the work in front of mee to choose and update, rename the files so they can be put to use in the vghd/data files......it will/is laborious but pleasurable, wunce again a big TY 89