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Trading card collection | tutorial to buy DOLZ tokens

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PSEUDO6ISME
De em Feb 2020

60 post(s)
November 11, 2022
I imagine that if people buy for x cost the Dolz to acquire the NFT cards, and that the supposed Dolz lose value in the meantime, due to the fact that crypto currencies are volatile, it will not be very profitable to resell them to someone else.
Aren't Dolz just tokens, much like Credits we have now? From what I read Dolz are not crypto currency. They can only be bought with crypto. Once you have Dolz, it doesn't mather what the crypto market does. And the cards may fluctuate in Dolz value, but again, after you exchanged your Dolz for a card, what does it matter (assuming you bought them to use them, and not as an investment).
Oh stop it and dont forget to pay those taxes :)
ComteDracula
De em Aug 2017

1295 post(s)
November 11, 2022 (edited)
It doesn't matter if the Dolz is cryptocurrency or not. The problem is that you have to pay in cryptocurrency which is very volatile, and is at high risk of loss, for NFTs, which are not worth the price and risk, at least to me.

Even though Totem is trying to show off how amazing these cards are going to be.

I am very happy with the regular cards.

There are so many warnings to be cautious with cryptocurrencies right now. It should be a good signal to be on guard for someone with a modicum of intelligence.

Have you ever wondered who has the most to gain in this adventure?


Peut importe que les Dolz soit de la cryptomonnaie ou pas. Le problème est qu'il faut payer en cryptomonnaie qui est très volatil, et qui est à haut risque de perte, pour des NFT, qui n'en valent pas le prix et le risque, du moins pour moi.

Même si Totem essai d'en mettre plein la vue pour montrer comment ces cartes vont être incroyables.

Je suis très satisfait avec les cartes régulières.

Il y a tellement d'avertissement d'être prudent avec les cryptomonnaies actuellement. Cela devrait être un bon signal d'être sur ses gardes pour quelqu'un qui a un minimum d'intelligence.

Vous êtes vous déjà demandé qui a le plus à gagner dans cette aventure ?

https://cryptomonnaies.io/problemes-securite-risques-lies-marches-nft/

bfmtv.com/economie/patrimoine/placements-epargne/…

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeton_non_fongible (Voir la section des critiques)
Bakura8119
De em Jun 2009

18 post(s)
November 11, 2022
That is so pathetic.😐
For all they have a lot of money to ***** do it.😕
Jackalnxt
De em Mar 2017

23 post(s)
November 12, 2022 (edited)
I would've gladly bought some of these cards if they were sold regularly, but unfortunately NFTs and crypto are a no-go for me. Given all the extra expenses, and potentially inflated prices some NFTs have, it might be actually cheaper to pay Monika May to come to my house and film me a personal show.

On a related note, would it be possible to, at least, release the photo sets that come with these cards (if there are any)? It might be a nice compesatory prize for the non-crypto people like me.
dar2112v
De em Dec 2007

455 post(s)
November 12, 2022
Odd timing releasing this product with FTX imploding and taking both crypto and NFTs with it?

I own crypto including the ill fated Solana. I took profits on most a long time ago but held on to some thinking I would sell it even higher. Now it looks like crypto is going to zero much sooner than I expected. I hope Totem is playing with 'other peoples' money; I expect this FTX train wreck is going to ripple through much more than just the crypto universe.

I don't understand the Dolz offering and don't plan to try and figure it out. I would love some of the shows but I'm not interested in a crypto version of iStripper. And I'm definitely not buying more crypto at least not until it regulated into something more than leveraged monopoly money favored by criminals and rogue nations. Blockchain makes sense but the current iteration is not going to scale and eventually will have to reinvent itself and when that happens the hype will vanish

I am curios how much do these NFT shows cost (in $)?
Also out of curiosity it there a place I can see the shows I wont be owning?
Alkasyn
De em Apr 2008

724 post(s)
November 12, 2022
@Dar2112v: So far there's only been promotional pictures, so we don't even know what shows will be on Dolz, but each of the recent models has made at least 1 Dolz show.

Discord info also tells me that the different "rarities" of cards will have missing/extra clips - i.e a "legendary" card will have a few more clips than a "normal" card.

I feel they're trying to play on our percieved FOMO with this one.
Ullubu
De em Dec 2011

747 post(s)
November 12, 2022
Here is the discord link to the Dolz server
https://discord.gg/ZfM3Cg3Nee
pickle1
MODERADOR
De em Mar 2019

1353 post(s)
November 12, 2022
@Dar21122v - unfortunately the very nature of the crypto market is that it is unregulated and volatile.

I'm pretty sure Totem had no inkling FTX was going down the pan when they chose this month to launch.
ComteDracula
De em Aug 2017

1295 post(s)
November 12, 2022
I hope that the regular program will not be affected by these "follies" of the Totem leaders.

Because they currently have to finance themselves with the money made with this regular program to start this project?


Moi j'espère que le programme régulier ne sera pas affecté par ces "folies" des dirigeants de Totem.

Car ils doivent actuellement se financer avec l'argent fait avec ce programme régulier pour démarrer ce projet ?
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1637 post(s)
November 12, 2022
Car ils doivent actuellement se financer avec l'argent fait avec ce programme régulier pour démarrer ce projet ?

Le but est que la réciprocité s'applique à l'avenir. Et bien entendu, on ne peut que l'espérer 😉
ComteDracula
De em Aug 2017

1295 post(s)
November 12, 2022
Pourriez-vous être plus précis ? La réciprocité en quoi ? Je dois faire partie de la basse classe au niveau de la compréhension, décrite dans un autre sujet, par l'élite dont fait partie @Sexy3DBoy. 😊
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1637 post(s)
November 12, 2022
Pourriez-vous être plus précis ?
Et bien, si j'ai bien compris ,les bénéfices de Dolz devraient servir en partie à améliorer l'application de base traditionnelle. Nouveaux modèles, décors, techniques, etc, etc 😉
ComteDracula
De em Aug 2017

1295 post(s)
November 12, 2022 (edited)
Moi je pense que se sont des promesses faites pour mieux faire passer ce nouveau programme. Dans l'éventualité où ce serait une réussite, ce dont je doute dans le contexte actuel des cryptomonnaies, ils investiraient et mettraient encore plus de ressource dans ce nouveau projet.

L'équipe semble réduite et ont peine déjà à corriger des défauts dans le programme qui sont demandés depuis longtemps, d'après ce que j'ai pu lire dans certains fils de discussions.

I think that these are promises made to better pass this new program. In the event that it would be a success, which I doubt in the current context of cryptocurrencies, they would invest and put even more resources into this new project.

The team seems to be small and they are already struggling to fix flaws in the program that have been requested for a long time, according to what I have read in some threads.
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1637 post(s)
November 12, 2022
Oui, enfin, je ne sais pas, parce que si tu consultes Dolz, tu pourras remarquer que de nouvelles personnes ont étés engagées et que tout cela a un cout. L'amélioration de l'application a sans doute été mise en veille par la mise en place de Dolz. Quoiqu'il en soit, je pense qu'un échec de cette nouvelle aventure(s'il devait s'avérer) ne sera profitable à personne 😒
HansSachs
De em Mar 2016

988 post(s)
November 12, 2022 (edited)
Quoiqu'il en soit, je pense qu'un échec de cette nouvelle aventure(s'il devait s'avérer) ne sera profitable à personne
Exactly so. Everyone here on iStripper, even those who don't like the Dolz project at all, should wish it to be much profitable to the company, which has invested for sure not so few resources - at all - on it...
ComteDracula
De em Aug 2017

1295 post(s)
November 13, 2022 (edited)
Quoiqu'il en soit, je pense qu'un échec de cette nouvelle aventure(s'il devait s'avérer) ne sera profitable à personne 😒

Évidemment, c'est pourquoi plusieurs dont moi même avaient critiqué ce projet, en sachant que ce serait lié à des cryptomonnaies, qui ne sont protégés par aucune loi et très volatil, à haut risque de perte.

De plus j'ai toujours cette crainte que cela affecte le programme de base au final. Mais ça c'est moi.

De plus nous n'avons jamais été sécurisé par l'équipe à savoir si ma crainte est réelle ou non.

Obviously, this is why many including myself had criticized this project, knowing that it would be related to cryptocurrencies, which are not protected by any law and very volatile, with high risk of loss.

Also I still have this ***** that it will affect the core program in the end. But that's me.

Moreover we were never secured by the team to know if my ***** is real or not.
willyweekly
De em Jul 2015

401 post(s)
November 13, 2022

Also I still have this ***** that it will affect the core program in the end. But that's me.

Moreover we were never secured by the team to know if my ***** is real or not.

I am thinking like a bar/restaurant.
Totem is selling beer in a bar. (the program we are used to buying)
Totem is opening a restuaruant next to the bar. (Dolz)

If the restaurant does well, I hope the bar doesn't close.
If the restaurant goes under, I hope the bar doesn't close.

I do love my beer!
Iram00
De em Aug 2009

62 post(s)
November 14, 2022
Cryptocurrency is a scam.
You can’t use it in the real world. There is always a 3rd party between the seller and buyer.
People only have or want it so that later same other idiot will buy it from them for more money. In the end someone will end up losing real money for useless coins if nobody is willing to buy the Crypto Coins.

NFTs are a scam as it is a digital product that has no reason to be limited at a set amount.

I paid 50 euro for 500 credits and 1 iStripper cards is 11 credits for me. So 1 iStripper cards cost 1.10 euro. Discord server has 16516 members and there are 18395 members on the app forum. Dolz webside mention 300.000 iStripper collectors.

I can safely say that all cards sold at least 5000 time at 1.10 euro is total 5.500 euro. If the NFTs is limit to 500 then they need it to sell it for at least 11 euro. But went totem only release 1 NFTs per week then it needs to be 77 euro per NFTs card as 5.500 euro times 7 days is 38.500 euro. 5000 card is a low but safe estimated. And I don’t know really know how many NFTs card Totem will sell so it is a guess.

In my eyes this is not good for us the user/customer and for Totem. Ones the 500 are sold then that’s it. They can’t ever get more money for the NFTs cards. The normal iStripper cards will continue bring in money overtime and can be use for the games.

Last thing is that NFTs card are not a different product as it use the same resource as the iStripper cards.

P.S. I will not and can't do the NFTs. It probely will be to expensive for me and i don't like it to scan/take a photo of my ID to submit as proof.
wrightsayswow
De em Jul 2020

1148 post(s)
November 14, 2022 (edited)
After the mess last week with FTX, I would not be too surprised if this whole project was delayed again. Perhaps even cancelled. The shows made so far could then simply be released as regular cards. Not sure the idea of trading cards between users really had much going for it either.

And as @peterbanker mentioned, many of us might not be able to do this even if we wanted.
I spoke to a cashier in my bank in the past couple of weeks and got the impression that they are likely to block crypto -currency transactions.
And I'm finding on OnlyFans more and more often now the payment requires the 2FA, even for just a minimum $5 tip, so for crypto they will probably send someone to my door and check I'm feeling okay.
cfrec2
De em Mar 2012

44 post(s)
November 14, 2022 (edited)
I hope they drop the whole DOLZ thing and end up releasing those beautyful cards here.
Im extatic that a big group like FTX is gone because it shows how little to no safe-guards are / were in place for the dummies that buy into crypto. Hopefully the next massive crash opens totems eyes to the catastrophic mistake they are going to make.

Edit: I wonder if the DOLZ cards price tags just shot through the roof? from what they would have sold at to probably a 500% or more markup just incase if they had crypto with FTX.
Ironxside
De em Aug 2019

84 post(s)
November 14, 2022
Totem *****, full speed ahead! (as the captain of the Titanic said ...)
Z22
De em Aug 2017

1166 post(s)
November 14, 2022
I fully expect them to double down on this like they did with the special event cards and premium.
peterbanker
De em Jan 2009

224 post(s)
November 14, 2022
Sorry the following may not make much sense to members outside of the UK

As at @wrightsayswow said

And I'm finding on OnlyFans more and more often now the payment requires the 2FA, even for just a minimum $5 tip, so for crypto they will probably send someone to my door and check I'm feeling okay.

Pre covid I was at a VCT (Venture Capital Trust) shareholders meeting.
A woman said that she had attempted to buy shares in this VCT (which would actually receive tax relief from the Inland Revenue) only for the local police ***** to turn up at her front door as her bank (which was one of the largest in the UK) had reported her for a possible money laundering crime.

So anyone attempting to buy cryto in the UK could easily at a minimum find their bank account and cards blocked.
batavus
De em Nov 2019

217 post(s)
November 14, 2022
What's the advantage of buying Dolz tokens istead of buying credits ?
At this moment, I'm not convinced
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
November 14, 2022
What's the advantage of buying Dolz tokens istead of buying credits ?

Perhaps a more relevant question would be "What's the advantage of selling Dolz tokens instead of selling credits ?"

I don't know the answer to that question either, but it is the more important of the two if you want to understand why it is being done.
Z22
De em Aug 2017

1166 post(s)
November 14, 2022 (edited)
What's the advantage of buying Dolz tokens istead of buying credits ?
Perhaps a more relevant question would be "What's the advantage of selling Dolz tokens instead of selling credits ?"

I don't know the answer to that question either, but it is the more important of the two if you want to understand why it is being done.

Buy DOZL tokens, buy card which has a random chance rareity.

The more rare the more you can sell it for(main point of nft's is that you can sell them), then the buyer can sell it on for even more DOLZ and on and on and on. Until there is a crash and you lose all the value. :/

Because the cards are NFT's ownership needs to be tracked with a blockchain, DOLZ are linked to eth for the transaction. So a record of any sale will become part of the blockchain and the owner can be validated.

AFIK DOLZ isnt going to be specfic to this progran like the credits are they can be used elsewhere, vrparadise for one. I believe they are attempting to get the entire porn industry to use DOLZ tokens, as yet i havent seen any other companies planning to or have adopted them though.

At least thats what appears to be going on ...
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
November 14, 2022
@Z22

That explains the advantage of selling NFT cards - but not why Totem have chosen that they have to be paid for via Dolz tokens instead of credits.

Z22
De em Aug 2017

1166 post(s)
November 14, 2022
@Z22

That explains the advantage of selling NFT cards - but not why Totem have chosen that they have to be paid for via Dolz tokens instead of credits.

I think the trades have to be done with trackable crypto curency for the nft thing to work. I believe the blockchain has something like "this nft was sold for this crypto quantity".

I am wondering about the trades and if totem are going to be middlemen and take a cut every time the card is traded or if its peer to peer with no "transaction fee" other that the usual crypto fee.
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
November 14, 2022
I think the trades have to be done with trackable crypto curency for the nft thing to work.

That may be how Totem have set it up - but it is not how others have used NFTs to establish ownership of a digital item (e.g. the first tweet). Both the NFT protected item and the crypto currency can be based on a block chain, but they do not have to be the same block chain nor is it neccessary that a cryto currency be invovled at all for the purchase of an NFT based item. Totem appear to have decided to do so and to have linked the two, this is reasonable but I do not know why they have made that decision.
ComteDracula
De em Aug 2017

1295 post(s)
November 14, 2022
Would it have anything to do with this advantage of cryptocurrencies?

https://bitcoinmatin.fr/2020/09/25/crypto-monnaie-avantages-et-inconvenients/

Privacy

Privacy is one of the main advantages of crypto-currencies. To use the system, you don't need to provide any personal data, which allows you to remain anonymous and hide your costs. The government, financial institutions or marketing companies cannot know about your transactions.

This may have changed since the date of this article I do not know?


Est-ce que cela aurait un lien avec cet avantage des cryptomonnaies ?

https://bitcoinmatin.fr/2020/09/25/crypto-monnaie-avantages-et-inconvenients/

Confidentialité

La confidentialité est l’un des principaux avantages des crypto-monnaies. Pour utiliser le système, vous n’avez pas besoin de fournir de données personnelles, ce qui vous permet de conserver l’anonymat et de masquer vos coûts. Le gouvernement, les institutions financières ou les sociétés de marketing ne peuvent pas connaître vos opérations.

Cela a peut-être changé depuis la date de cet article je ne le sais pas ?

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