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Many XXX Cards lately

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mentorx
De em Apr 2010

75 post(s)
July 17, 2021
In the last 10 days at least, many XXX Cards and few normal Istripper Cards have arrived. Which seems to me to be very unbalanced in my opinion. Or the tendency for Istripper to become "Istripper xxx" over time?
sh42n81
De em Apr 2008

314 post(s)
July 17, 2021
It tends to balance out. 10 days is an incredibly small sample size; prone to wild statistical deviations. I predict the mix will regress to the mean soon, and you'll be happier. Here are the ratios over more rational time periods:

Explicit shows, all time: 1,190 (41% of all shows)
Explicit shows, last 12 months: 167 (44% of all shows)

You may think 44% is too much XXX; I won't argue the point as that's strictly a matter of preference.
spiderman1804
De em Feb 2008

439 post(s)
July 17, 2021
The picture shows an overview showing the number of cards for each month since the end of 2014.
This overview only shows the E and F series cards.

The cards of the series A to D have all been published before October, 2014. These cards are not shown here.
wrightsayswow
De em Jul 2020

1160 post(s)
July 17, 2021
@spiderman1804 👍 interesting seeing it all like that.
Since merging DB and VG perhaps Totem are now accelerating a process to a more 50/50 split. That must be what the sales figures are telling them will work best for them. And they need to balance for months like last September/October when XXX lost out for weeks as the models available were not porn stars.
mentorx
De em Apr 2010

75 post(s)
July 18, 2021
That's true I'm not a big fan of the Istripper XXX cards.
Captain15
De em May 2015

26 post(s)
July 21, 2021 (edited)
I sense another name change. iStripper will become iMasturbation very soon. I have also noticed a decline in quality of the girls. Very few Metart and Femjoy models stripping these days and tons and tons of tattooed silicon porn stars masturbating in XXX cards.
KingVCrimson
De em Dec 2019

18 post(s)
July 21, 2021
I am a big fan of iStripper XXX cards, I am a customer because of the XXX cards.
Without XXX cards i would probably stop buying their product because not interested on dancing shows.
There are multiple sites for non XXX shows for people interested in that kind of soft-core.
I love the new implementations and the new models with tattoos and all the changes for good.
My point we all have different taste and iSt cant fufill all customers expectations.
They been working hard to get the best entreteiment for us if you dont like it probably cant compare with users that desagree.



wrightsayswow
De em Jul 2020

1160 post(s)
July 21, 2021
There are multiple sites for non XXX shows for people interested in that kind of soft-core.
And vice versa - plenty of XXX sites for the hardcore and if you want the girls with guys.
I think iStripper is sitting very well in the mid to soft range. Clear from the forum there are many varied tastes already being satisfied.
jclown781
De em Feb 2008

111 post(s)
July 25, 2021
Actually there are a ton more hardcore options available a lot more so than the supposed soft stripping program that this was described as. If nothing else that's what made this app so special and unique (and btw it is far from soft). I really don't mind one way or the other if shows are regular or xxx but I have in the past expressed annoyance with a lot of xxx shows especially recently. My only gripe with them overall is... Do they really need to be 35-40 of sitting on the taskbar rubbing or using toys?. The up until recently formula of including a little bit of non nude followed by light teasing and then stripping and getting to the action i thought was superb. A little bit of everything can please more people than just having a singular theme for a show. I know nothings perfect and no matter what you won't please everybody but I say stick to the formula don't relegate the xxx shows to 35 min repetitive toy plowing and I think that a lot of this back and forth will eventually go away.
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
July 25, 2021
, mais je dis de s’en tenir à la formule ne pas reléguer les spectacles xxx à 35 min de labour répétitif de jeu et je pense que beaucoup de ce va-et-vient finira par disparaître.
Et bien, moi, je ne pense pas que ce type de show va disparaître, car s'il est produit, c'est que cela se vend.
Mais ce type de show, n'est pas majoritaire et vous devriez encore trouver beaucoup de spectacles qui vous satisferont @jclown781 😎
quote], but I say stick to the formula don't relegate the xxx shows to 35 min of repetitive play plowing and I think a lot of that back and forth will eventually go away. [/ quote]
Well, I don't think this type of show is going to go away, because if it is produced, it is because it sells.
But this type of show is not the majority and you should still find a lot of shows that will satisfy you @jclown781 😎
Sexy3DBoy
De em Jun 2011

480 post(s)
July 25, 2021
In the last 10 days at least, many XXX Cards and few normal Istripper Cards have arrived. Which seems to me to be very unbalanced in my opinion. Or the tendency for Istripper to become "Istripper xxx" over time?
Je pense la même chose et de plus j'aimerai bien voir de vraies danseuses exotiques avec du métier dans tout le corps.

I think the same thing and I would like to see real exotic dancers with a lot of work in their bodies.

jclown781
De em Feb 2008

111 post(s)
July 27, 2021
@Philours You have a point and in general I am very happy with the product as I have bought just about every show in the last several years. There have been "very" few disappointments girls wise to my eyes so to speak so they're all beautiful and for the most part I enjoy everything this app offers. But that being said you have to wonder why has this been a topic recently? I don't recall too much ***** about certain types of shows up until the all table shows started up again..I could very well be mistaken but my point is I don't think members are against xxx shows its never been about that it's the shows that are 30+min of the same repetitive type.. Of course these shows will sell somewhat they could produce a show with a model dressed in a garbage bag playing with a yo yo and some of us will buy it. But do a majority of the members want these shows regularly is the question and that's why I think there's the constant back and forth.
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
July 27, 2021
@jclown781 A voir votre collection, vous êtes certainement satisfait en général.
Vous avez raison, les membres ne sont pas contre les shows xxx en règle générale et une bonne partie de ces shows sont achetés , je pense.
Il y a toujours des réclamations pour une chose ou l'autre. L'*****ée dernière, en début de crise Covid, certains se plaignaient aussi du manque de cartes xxx.
Je ne sait pas si le va-et-vient que vous constatez est dû a la vente. Je pense qu'il faut aussi tenir compte du casting, et lorsqu'une pornstar revient 2 ou 3 fois, ces spectacles sont inévitables.

@jclown781 Looking at your collection, you are certainly satisfied in general.
You are right, the members are not against xxx shows as a rule and a lot of these shows are bought, I think.
There are always complaints for one thing or the other. Last year, at the start of the Covid crisis, some also ***** about the lack of xxx cards.
I don't know if the back and forth you are seeing is due to the sale. I think you have to consider the cast as well, and when a pornstar comes back 2 or 3 times, those shows are inevitable.
Captain15
De em May 2015

26 post(s)
August 2, 2021

Without XXX cards i would probably stop buying their product because not interested on dancing shows.
There are multiple sites for non XXX shows for people interested in that kind of soft-core.

Are you kidding me? If you want to see girls masturbating you have tons of options. If you want to see most of the XXX girls on this app masturbating, you can find them on many other sites. This kind of soft-core content is unique and is what made the brand what it is. Is that what Istripper is doing now? Catering to people like you who don't even like the product?

I'm not against them releasing 1 or 2 XXX cards a week, but for them to release more XXX than stripping shows or even a 50/50 split is kind of ridiculous to me. There are some models who only have XXX shows now. I really like Sasha Meow and was excited to see that she shaved her bush. But every single one of her new cards are XXX? WTF is that?
Sexy3DBoy
De em Jun 2011

480 post(s)
August 2, 2021
If you want to see girls masturbating you have tons of options. If you want to see most of the XXX girls on this app masturbating, you can find them on many other sites. This kind of soft-core content is unique and is what made the brand what it is. Is that what Istripper is doing now? Catering to people like you who don't even like the product?
👍
HansSachs
De em Mar 2016

989 post(s)
August 2, 2021 (edited)
iStripper is great just because it has all.
Here we can see sexy dance, nude dance, tease, stripping and yes, masturbation too. Why not?
The more features, the better - and more people pleased.

By the way, most XXX cards contain 2/3 up to 4/5 of softcore clips...
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
August 2, 2021 (edited)
The more features, the better - and more people pleased.

That may be true, and quite probably is, but it is not necessarily so. There are those of us that liked VGHD precisely because there was an almost total absense of sexualy explict content.
HansSachs
De em Mar 2016

989 post(s)
August 2, 2021 (edited)
I will remind to all that Totem did publish the list of best selling cards of 2020: out of 20 best sellers, vaste majority has been XXX - and moreover, almost all first placed ones have been XXX.
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/46902/1?post=698311
Tudo sobre iStripper / BEST SELLERS 2020
Here are our Top 20 sellers 2020 ! Very best model is Eva Elfie with 4 shows in top 20, followed by Belka & Melena Maria Rya with 3 shows each in the top 20! NUMBER ONE : NUMBER TWO & THREE : NUMBERS...
XXX is here to stay...
jihymo26ge
De em Dec 2007

33 post(s)
August 3, 2021
There are those of us that liked VGHD precisely because there was an almost total absense of sexualy explict content.
I'm one of them. :)
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
August 3, 2021 (edited)
XXX is here to stay...

@HansSachs - I was not disputing that. It is not what I would prefer but I am quite happy to acknowledge that the present mix is probably about right for Totem.

I was, however, disputing the text that I quoted, namely

The more features, the better - and more people pleased.

It was this, and only this, that I was making a brief comment on.

The casualy accepted statement that more variety, no matter what, within a card will automatically satisfy more people is not true.

If it was true then it would imply that Totem should include all sorts of activities, beyond simple XXX action, in many or most cards even if many or most of their customers would find them repulsive. There are almost certainly a significant number of members that do not buy any card that is tagged "anal" and including that in all cards would, in my opinion, reduce overall sales. The same is also likely to be the case with XXX rated clips - hence the existance of cards that do not have any and the likelyhood that such cards will continue to be made

The recent apparent trend to more XXX, and slightly more extreme forms of it (I am thinking of the "squirting" cards) is beginning to affect my purchasing habits. I will not be automatically purchasing every card from now on, though I will probably still buy almost all at least for the next month or so but eventually I will reduce to the point where my Premium membership will not be cost effective and I will cancel it. I had rather arbitrarily put off making this change until I had reached the 5000 card mark but had been considering it since the start of the year.
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
August 3, 2021
@TheEmu,
Plus de variété n'est pas forcément dans chaque carte, mais dans l'ensemble des cartes. Et je devient plus sélectif également depuis l'arrêt de mon abonnement Premium. Mais pour des raisons inverses aux vôtres. 😉
Et franchement, je ne trouve rien de répugnant sur iStripper. Nous sommes encore loin d'un site Hard 😆
@TheEmu,
More variety is not necessarily in each map, but in all maps. And I have also become more selective since the end of my Premium subscription. But for reasons opposite to yours. 😉
And frankly, I can't find anything disgusting about iStripper. We are still far from a Hard site 😆
wrightsayswow
De em Jul 2020

1160 post(s)
August 3, 2021
far from a Hard site
Absolutely, nothing made by iStripper in my view gets anywhere near the hardcore range.
pantalone
De em Nov 2010

224 post(s)
August 3, 2021
Maybe the XXX customers are more profitable now, so iStripper is moving towards more xxx content. Totem's business model has changed over the last couple of years, as they introduce the SECs, games and costume sales. These seem to increase margins and profitability, probably because studio time is less for each $ earned. We don't know that xxx customers play games and spend more, but Totem does. It wouldn't be a surprise if the mix changes to accommodate this.
Sexy3DBoy
De em Jun 2011

480 post(s)
August 3, 2021
Perso, j'ai dépassé le stade du show XXX ou pas XXX. Aujourd'hui j'en suis rendu à acheter une carte uniquement en fonction de l'allure de la miss et de sa tenue vestimentaire. Pour ce qui est du show, je n'y trouve pas/plus de vraies hardeuses et encore moins de vraies danseuses. Je pense qu'il doit y avoir aussi un effet de lassitude, qui sait.

Personally, I've gone beyond the stage of XXX show or not XXX. Today I've come to the point where I buy a card solely on the basis of the miss's looks and her attire. As far as the show is concerned, I don't find any real hardcore girls and even less real dancers. I think there must also be a weariness effect, who knows.
HansSachs
De em Mar 2016

989 post(s)
August 3, 2021 (edited)
Anyway: "plain" cards don't (usually) have any XXX clips, but XXX cards usually have many (in most cases, majority of) "plain" clips. So they may have something to please "plain clips" lovers too.

Personally I am happy with both the "plain" and the XXX side of iStripper.
I like plain cards too, and never would ask them to be quite reduced or eliminated - a thing that, instead, I always have been seeing several plain card fans repeatedly to ask about XXX cards.
HansSachs
De em Mar 2016

989 post(s)
August 3, 2021 (edited)
There are almost certainly a significant number of members that do not buy any card that is tagged "anal"
There are, also practically certainly, a significant - maybe even bigger - number of people which find such tag (and also other "extreme" ones) a reason more to buy a card...


Data we were given, by the way, would look to suggest it:
  • out of 20 best sellers of 2020, not less of six cards do have "anal" tag - precisely, the 5th, 9th, 10th, 14th, 17th, 18th most sold ones.

As usual, such data can be checked here:
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/46902/1?post=698311
Tudo sobre iStripper / BEST SELLERS 2020
Here are our Top 20 sellers 2020 ! Very best model is Eva Elfie with 4 shows in top 20, followed by Belka & Melena Maria Rya with 3 shows each in the top 20! NUMBER ONE : NUMBER TWO & THREE : NUMBERS...
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
August 3, 2021
Il y a, aussi pratiquement certainement, un nombre important - peut-être même plus grand - de personnes qui trouvent une telle étiquette (et aussi d’autres « extrêmes ») une raison de plus d’acheter une carte...
Certainement @HansSachs, malheureusement, nous manquons de données plus pertinentes.
Votre exemple (données de totem) est intéressant d'autant plus que peu de cartes possèdent ce tag.
Et perso, le tag "squirt" est une bonne raison d'acheter.
Il y a comme un mouvement de quelques utilisateurs vers plus de cartes régulières, mais totem décidera en fin de compte en fonction du marché!
[quote] There are, also almost certainly, a significant - perhaps even greater - number of people who find such a label (and also other "extremes") one more reason to buy a card. . [/ quote]
Definitely @HansSachs, unfortunately we lack more relevant data.
Your example (totem data) is interesting especially since few cards have this tag.
And personally, the "squirt" tag is a good reason to buy.
There is like a move of a few users towards more regular cards, but totem will ultimately decide depending on the market!
HansSachs
De em Mar 2016

989 post(s)
August 3, 2021 (edited)
unfortunately we lack more relevant data.
Maybe yes, maybe not - but it has for sure to be pointed that, while we all usually have long discussions on this forum based on our own mere speculations, in this case we got instead some real informations about sales; so, they may be not complete, but I would for sure tend to find them far from irrelevant...
wrightsayswow
De em Jul 2020

1160 post(s)
August 3, 2021 (edited)
I think for tags like "anal" and "squirt" they only relate to a couple of clips towards the end of many XXX cards. Easily avoided if the clip is disabled and you still have a very nice show even if you don't want those. Rare cards with all clips like this probably do need a note/disclaimer. Otherwise I think a card like Gia Ren - Miss Red Hood - which does have a note about the content would leave you with just the three preview clips. I've still not watched it - I guess curiosity will get me to in the end.

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