In my opinion, the current way to get a special event card isn't right.
It's very strange, it's not reasonable, it's upsetting to the consumer, and in a word it's crazy.
I want to open their heads to how we can ignore consumers in this way.
You want me to play a game and get it? Can I get it by playing games? I just want to buy the card, not the game.
Why do you urge me to gamble?
Are you a casino operator? Why should I gamble to get the card I want?
Is this your consideration and reward for loyal customers?
I think the special event card system is the most stupid way in the world.
It is rude to consumers, it is not friendly and it ignores them.
I know how successful the estripper is. So are you crazy now? Does the consumer now look like an open wallet to you?
It's also funny that this way of selling is possible. Because it's a fraud.
You must quickly realize what is wrong. And you have to apologize to the consumer. Unless you're an idiot.

I just wish the little progression bar was for the SEC and not just a gift card...

At the very least, they could just give us the SEC after running through the progression bar few times.

In my opinion, the current way to get a special event card isn't right.

I agree, they should sell them at Ebay like they do with the outfits. Limited to 30 auctions per card, every day one until a new card is released one time a month.

I can't tell if your joking. That should end the SEC if thats the goal.

There are 4894 cards in the store. 2000+ of them are Crystal Clear/Crystal Clear+
Every single girl with SEC card has atleast one standard card in the library.
So what is the problem exactly? Who is ***** you to gamble or to spend money on the SEC cards?

If you are here because of the shows then you have plenty of cards to watch. SEC cards are for fun and just like a bonus for those who spends lots of money and want to get something special.

Let me try to save us all some time. This discussion is starting over and over again, ever since.... uhhh, well, the very first SEC years ago. All these discussions end in: "If you don't like it, don't play", "gambling addiction is not a matter of Totem" and "you have no RIGHT to buy any cards, because it's Totems business so they can decide how they sell their product and must have thought this SEC and gambling deal over before starting it".
Not saying you have no rights to voice your concerns, just telling you how this thread will end after pages and pages of messages. And BTW, I'm against this way of doing business as well just like you.

Hi @shadowgamer

If you are here because of the shows then you have plenty of cards to watch.

This is also something which was never ever be able to Understand, since these Discussions
always started on and on and on ...

But i'm sharing your Opinion/Comment 👍

I have currently 2625 Cards in my Collection, and i'm taking myself the Time to watch every single Show
one by the other from the beginning until the end, including the Restrictions with my Fullscreen Scenes.
But this was never a problem for me.

After i watched a Show, i'm clicking on the green Hook to hide the Card, to know that the Show
is already viewed, and i can Access them again through the Filter Options if i want to.

And until today i viewed 658 Shows completely so far,
and let's say maybe 50 or 60 Shows i watched twice from them maybe less.

And that is the point, i can watch every Show again and again and again ...
If i will ever go on the Hunt for an SEC Card, i don't know.
But since 2018 as i created my Account there was no Reason for me to Hunt them.

You want to know why, then i can give you at least at the moment 2625 Answers,
why this Carrot doesn't bother me at all.

I got two of them so far provided with the Advent Calendar and the March pre Order,
that's it and i'm fine with that. Because i have all regular Sows from Scarlett Jones
and Katrina Moreno including her Take Two.

But all these Comments like your Comment above or mine doesn't help at all to Show this to the people,
that every single User/Customer of iStripper can decide on it's own what to do with his Credits/Money.

You can dislike everyting and everyone you want No Question about that,
Feel Free to do whatever you want.

But here is the thing, if you decide to take this path forever and decide to not leave it,
you will loose your Focus completely for the most important thing in your Life,

the Positive Things.

Insert coin to add credit. Same player play again...

this thread will end after pages and pages of messages

Or sooner hopefully if a mod closes it - all been said before - search forum for countless threads all about it.
Move on - enjoy the girls you have like @Stanston - a good idea of his to tick off each show watched.

You can close threads, but not minds!

The next one will start a new thread. That´s part of our culture. The right to demonstrate against things we don´t like.

@Stanston @wrightsayswow 😎👍

No matter ones thoughts on gambling it will always be an 'end user' choice and resposibility. Some sort of simple and clear FAQ could explain that and hopefully make for less thread spawning if thats the word. I only have some SEC cards. I'm not intrested in half of them but it never occured to me to complian about something I chose to do.

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@JuppKowalski

There is no right to demonstrate on what is essentially private property.

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@Socialhazard

Some sort of simple and clear FAQ could explain that
and hopefully make for less thread spawning if thats the word.

This Topic is pinned in the New Users Corner Section and maintained from @Wyldanimal

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/40970/1#post705068

Espaço para novos usuários / Special Event / Exclusive Cards / Removed Cards

Special Event Cards (SEC) are not for sale. You can have them by playing games in the TGIF (Thank God It's Friday, so the weekend games) promotions when Totem's team decides to put a SEC as a goal in...

But i think all these Users knows about that already ...

@JuppKowalski

There is no right to demonstrate on what is essentially private property.

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Just read the Terms of conditions you have agreed to by posting here.

and hopefully make for less thread spawning

... to say it with your words from another thread : "Just don`t read it!", shrug, lol.

And?

And?

No time to waste! Change the world, start today, my little hero. May the 4th be with you... GET YOUR AWARD!

I have no idea what your saying. Enjoy iStripper.

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Oh and I have to check your music rec, if its half as offensive as I think it is could be fun! Anyway off topic. Hope they close this thread and someone starts some sort of debate thread instead. 😎👍

@Stanston

Thanks I did not see that actually and many others either hence this thread. (Which I did not create.) To ***** about the method which I can fully understand. 👍

@JuppKowalski

The T&C is based on what I said. So we agree. 👍
Opinion is not demonstration so no worries.

Anyone have ideas on some alternate method? I can't think of one if thats the purpose of this thread.

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Posting as a Member and not as a moderator.

I read every post and there have been many on the subject of the SEC cards.
As a member I agree with everyone on this point:

On it's initial release, an SEC card should have a direct and clear path to winning it.
I do not Believe it should ever be left to a game a chance.
Not on it's initial release.

A Progress Bar, based on a game of Chance is OK, because you Know that you will obtain the SEC when the Bar is Filled.

After it's Initial Release, then it is okay to offer it as a prize in a game of chance.

The Way in which an SEC card is Aquired for it's Initial release has to be better planned out.
That is the only Constructive Criticism, I have as a member.

👍 Sounds fair to me.

After it's Initial Release, then it is okay to offer it as a prize in a game of chance.

jeux, hasard, offrir ,normal.
Malheureusement tout ces mots ne sont pas compatibles.
Si il n'y a plus de hasard, il n'y a plus de jeux!
Pas facile de trouver une solution.
Offrir la carte après un certain montant de crédits investis dans un même tgif? Peut-être?
Pour éviter une trop grosse perte dans certains cas. (cela peut monter a plusieurs centaines de crédits, voire plus !)
[quote] After it's Initial Release, then it is okay to offer it as a prize in a game of chance. [/ quote]
games, chance, offer, normal.
Unfortunately not all of these words are compatible.
If there is no more chance, there are no more games!
Not easy to find a solution.
Offer the card after a certain amount of credits invested in the same tgif? Perhaps?
To avoid too much loss in some cases. (this can amount to several hundred credits, or even more!)

Posting as a Member and not as a moderator.

I read every post and there have been many on the subject of the SEC cards.
As a member I agree with everyone on this point:

On it's initial release, an SEC card should have a direct and clear path to winning it.
I do not Believe it should ever be left to a game a chance.
Not on it's initial release.

A Progress Bar, based on a game of Chance is OK, because you Know that you will obtain the SEC when the Bar is Filled.

After it's Initial Release, then it is okay to offer it as a prize in a game of chance.

The Way in which an SEC card is Aquired for it's Initial release has to be better planned out.
That is the only Constructive Criticism, I have as a member.

The real problem is that customers are willing to play games of chance to get a special event card. All that the community would have to do is collectively not participate in SEC games, totem would lose money on the cards and come up with a better plan. Customers want to be special though, and so the more difficult the path to get the cards, the harder certain people will push to get those cards, just to know that they have the cards. This phenomena is present in any collectors society. We just need to admit that the SEC is an artifical collectors item, and therefore is not meant to be gained by everybody.

Le vrai problème est que les clients sont prêts à jouer à des jeux de hasard pour obtenir une carte événement spécial. Tout ce que la communauté aurait à faire est collectivement ne pas participer aux jeux SEC, totem perdrait de l’argent sur les cartes et de trouver un meilleur plan. Les clients veulent être spéciaux si, et donc plus le chemin pour obtenir les cartes, plus certaines personnes pousseront pour obtenir ces cartes, juste pour savoir qu’ils ont les cartes. Ce phénomène est présent dans toute société de collectionneurs. Nous avons juste besoin d’admettre que la SEC est un objet de collection artifical, et n’est donc pas destiné à être gagné par tout le monde.

Un boycott des jeux par la communauté ne me semble pas réaliste, beaucoup aiment jouer quoique l'on en dise.
La perte d'argent devrait être compensée. Le revenu obtenu par totem de cette manière permet également de proposer des cartes quotidiennes à un prix correct et qui n'a pas changé depuis mon adhésion au moins.
Si le moyen de compenser une perte d'argent est l'augmentation du prix des cartes, alors : non!😧

A community boycott of games doesn't seem realistic to me, many like to play no matter what.
The loss of money should be compensated. The income obtained per totem in this way also makes it possible to offer daily cards at a correct price and which has not changed since my membership at least.
If the way to compensate for a loss of money is to increase the price of cards, then: no! 😧

HAHAHA! This returns over and over over again, like Game Of Thrones, Batman and Fridays For Future,lol.

... many like to play no matter what. ...

Since we all love gambling that much, they should make all new cards only available by gambling for the first half year after release, that would be real fun!

Since we all love gambling that much, they should make all new cards only available by gaming for the first half year after release, that would be real fun!

Hahaha Oui, cela serait drôle 😆😆
Sérieusement, si le système est comme il est c'est qu'il fonctionne pour totem et que les jeux rencontrent du succès. Sinon ils auraient disparus depuis longtemps.
Hahaha Yes, that would be funny 😆😆
Seriously, if the system is as it is, it is because it works for totem pole and the games are successful. Otherwise they would be long gone.

Although I don't like it I have always accepted that gambling for SECs must be good for Totem and that is highly unlikely to alter unless the legal requirements for such things change.

One thing that I would have liked to have seen is that SEC cards were genuinely special in themselves so that they are clearly identified as being very different from other cards - essentially different enough to be seen as a different product.

There is nothing "Special" and there is no "Event". Gambling Possibilities are always available. So why it´s called "Special EVENT Card"? I guess it´s a Special Event for Totem when people load some extra money to their accounts to play stupid games.