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Evaneself
De em Dec 2019

360 post(s)
August 20, 2020
Anyone is free to give his vote for any card, but here are some members that have a problem with the freedom of vote.
Some Nudity cards get low ratings because the girls don't show Full Nudity and because of this, few members don't talk about their vote, but talk about the other members and they write that the other members have problems!!
What?
Their comments must be deleted because of their ***** of speach. Someone even asks for non-nude cards, just to be against the others.
I find the low ratings at Nudity cards as very normal, because the majority is not here to buy clothes or to see women like on the streets.
Some vote negative these cards, even if the cards have written Nudity, to show the will of majority.
If all the Nudity (only) cards will have 5 stars, this you will get forever.
Goodbye, Full Nudity!
Why to undress herself more, if she will get the same money with the clothes on her?
Please respect the others and their votes!!!
stefnev1
MODERADOR
De em Jul 2008

4603 post(s)
August 20, 2020
Their comments must be deleted because of their ***** of speach
If these comments are not insulting someone, or the Totem's team, they don't have to be deleted. It's the rule of this forum.
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
August 20, 2020 (edited)
@Evaneself

No one is disputing anyone's right to vote how they want for whatever reason they want. That surely includes those of us that would prefer less nudity. What does seem silly, however, is to regularly buy cards that are clearly labeled as one level of hotness and then ***** that it was not a different level.

If all the Nudity (only) cards will have 5 stars, this you will get forever.
Goodbye, Full Nudity!

The rating do not necessarily, and almost certainly don't, reflect the cards actual popularity - their sales do a better job of that and will be more meaningful to Totem.
Evaneself
De em Dec 2019

360 post(s)
August 20, 2020
If he says that someone have problems because of his weak vote, that is insulting.
The problems he is referring are mental.
Evaneself
De em Dec 2019

360 post(s)
August 20, 2020
Anyway, you know better.
I just wanted to help.
All the best!
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
August 20, 2020
Je ne sais pas où est le vote, mais pour voter c'est simple ;
achetez des cartes xxx et Totem en produira d'autres, achetez des cartes full nudity et Totem en produira d'autres, ....

Pour le salaire des filles, je ne sais pas si c'est le même pour les différents type de cartes
J'espère qu'elles ont plus pour une xxx
Evaneself
De em Dec 2019

360 post(s)
August 20, 2020
If the card is bought in a bundle or pre-ordered, it doesn't matter the selling because it sells anyway.
If someone comments and votes low, it matters because he says what is wrong and he did not buy it because he wanted to.
I always look at the comments.
The rating matter for me.
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
August 20, 2020
I always look at the comments.
The rating matter for me.

I also look at the comments, but I ignore the overall rating.
pickle1
MODERADOR
De em Mar 2019

1353 post(s)
August 20, 2020
@Philours - il n’y a pas de vote en tant que tel, mais vous avez raison - vous votez avec votre achat.

Je pense que la question appartient vraiment à certaines des personnes avec les collections complètes - pour eux de maintenir la collection complète remplace être en mesure de choisir si vous achetez une carte - ou non. Donc - ils "ont » pour acheter toutes les cartes et puis ils se plaignent parce que la carte n’est pas à leur goût. J’ai le luxe - je fais mes recherches et j’achète ce que j’aime et je peux profiter de toutes les variations.

@Totem essayer de fournir la variété - et la maxime "vous ne pouvez pas s’il vous plaît tous les gens tout le temps  » s’applique certainement ici.
arise77
De em Mar 2008

196 post(s)
August 20, 2020
@TheEmu you keep saying that cards are clearly labeled as "Nudity" or "Full nudity", but you don't seem to address the fact this labeling is sometimes misleading (deliberately or not?).
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/45395/1?post=674917
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I mentioned the example of Sofie Lilith on that thread, but you can also look at Margo Dumas:
she has 2 shows out of 5 that have "Full nudity" level, but these are obviously in the same style as the 3 other "Nudity" shows.

Nude art models' "Full nudity" shows are clearly different from the ones of other models. How can you tell if a nude art model has a show with open legs?
It has been suggested to just label these shows as nude art, which would help clear up the *****.
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
August 20, 2020 (edited)
I don't mention it because I do not find it misleading in any way.

It is, or should be, well understood by now that the label represents the maximum level attained by the card, but does not indicate how long that level is maintained. I can quite understand why someone buying a "full nudity" card would be disappointed if that level is only acheived breifly, what I can't understand i why someone buying a card labeled as "nudity" would be disappointed that it had no "full nudity" clips. I have seen quite a few such comments for the recent cards.

I do agree that more information would be welcome, which is why I have suggested that a summary of the clip list for a card shuld be made available before purchase. I first made this suggestion some years ago.
Ullubu
De em Dec 2011

748 post(s)
August 20, 2020
what I can't understand i why someone buying a card labeled as "nudity" would be disappointed that it had no "full nudity" clips.

Most of them, like me have never bought a card of 'nudity' level. I bought the August pre order and now I get cards I would never buy and so I rate them low.
reddeth71
De em Jul 2012

47 post(s)
August 20, 2020
Check out the comments on Celias Clays show. One person said If you bought the show its your fault if you didnt read the notes...... What if you bought the pre order ? I can sure see why someone would get upset. The Emu had the best solution . A summary clip lists for all shows during the preorder month .....
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
August 20, 2020
En prenant la pré-commande, vous devez vous attendre à recevoir des cartes que vous n'achèteriez pas autrement. @Ullubu
En les notant bas, vous ne notez pas le show de la fille mais juste votre déception que la carte ne soit pas x.
Pourquoi avoir pris la pre-commande ?, pour la SEC de Nici qui n'est pas X non plus !

By taking the pre-order, you should expect to receive cards that you would not otherwise buy. @Ullubu
By rating them low, you don't notice the girl's show but just your disappointment that the card is not x.
Why took the pre-command?, for the SEC of Nici who is not X either!
pantalone
De em Nov 2010

224 post(s)
August 20, 2020
We all know that Totem withold reliable and complete information about card contents and that the rating system is practically useless.

The place for detailed information about the level of nudity is in Comments. There aren't many people on this thread who regularly post helpful comments on the day of release.
Ullubu
De em Dec 2011

748 post(s)
August 20, 2020
By rating them low, you don't notice the girl's show but just your disappointment that the card is not x.
Why took the pre-command?, for the SEC of Nici who is not X either!
I was never talking about XXX. Where do you take that from. If I was only here for some XXX content I had stopped buying cards at all years ago, when Totem changed the XX cards.
For me a card is good when it delivers something for everyone.
A normal iStripper card of about 30 - 40 min should contain 10 min topless, 10 min nudity, and 10 min full nudity and the rest can be no nudity or any other level. No XXX needed.
An iStripperXXX card of about 30 - 40 min should contain about half of the show XXX and the rest of the card any other level, because as a XXX card the main focus should be on XXX.
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
August 20, 2020
Non, il faut attendre quelques temps pour avoir plus de commentaires et pouvoir se faire une idée.

No, you have to wait a while to get more comments and get an idea.
arise77
De em Mar 2008

196 post(s)
August 20, 2020
That's exactly what misleading means: have the same label "Full nudity" for different types of shows, or label "Nudity" & "Full nudity" for the same type of shows.

If you don't look at a show's page in detail, you can't recognise nude art shows at first glance. The purchase tab always indicates "buy [model's] full nudity show", how does that help you differentiate?
It happened to me in the past (with Margo Dumas actually) to buy shows without seeing the small "Nudity" label because she was the 1st nude art model of the istripper era.
From that on, I started reading the comments to at least be aware of this before buying a card.

I don't think it's up to members to warn other members these cards are different, that should be the designers' or director's job.
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
August 20, 2020
@Ullubu - I disagreealmost completely with your prescription of what a card "should" comprise. But we have very different tastes and I am happy that Totem support both of us.
Ullubu
De em Dec 2011

748 post(s)
August 20, 2020
@TheEmu I agree that we disagree in all points on every topic.
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
August 20, 2020
@arise77

I agreed with you about extra information being made available. But the current labeling is not misleading, just not very informative - there is a difference.
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
August 20, 2020
O.K @Ullubu j'ai peut-être mal compris avec la traduction.
Mais vous voulez des valeurs de temps pour un show.
Pour certains, une carte normale de 30-40' ne doit pas contenir 10' topless, 10' ....
Mais un spectacle de qualité qui évolue et qui aboutit à la nudité quand elle doit arriver.
Je ne pense pas qu'il faut chronométrer les shows comme tu le penses
Ullubu
De em Dec 2011

748 post(s)
August 20, 2020
Je ne pense pas qu'il faut chronométrer les shows comme tu le penses
Doch.
Philours
De em Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
August 20, 2020
Alors toutes les cartes vont se ressembler.
J'aime une différence, même si moi aussi, parfois , je suis un peu déçu, mais pas grave pour moi.
pickle1
MODERADOR
De em Mar 2019

1353 post(s)
August 20, 2020 (edited)
That's exactly what misleading means: have the same label "Full nudity" for different types of shows, or label "Nudity" & "Full nudity" for the same type of shows.If you don't look at a show's page in detail, you can't recognise nude art shows at first glance. The purchase tab always indicates "buy [model's] full nudity show", how does that help you differentiate?It happened to me in the past (with Margo Dumas actually) to buy shows without seeing the small "Nudity" label because she was the 1st nude art model of the istripper era.From that on, I started reading the comments to at least be aware of this before buying a card.I don't think it's up to members to warn other members these cards are different, that should be the designers' or director's job.

@arise 77 - sadly you have misinterpreted the purchase tab - it says "buy ... full nudity show" for every show regardless of content - all it means is buy the full show that includes nudity (as opposed to the previews that are only part of the show and normally exclude any nudity).

You have to look at the "hotness level" box in all cases to see how strong the show is going to be.
pickle1
MODERADOR
De em Mar 2019

1353 post(s)
August 20, 2020
En prenant la pré-commande, vous devez vous attendre à recevoir des cartes que vous n'achèteriez pas autrement. @UllubuEn les notant bas, vous ne notez pas le show de la fille mais juste votre déception que la carte ne soit pas x.Pourquoi avoir pris la pre-commande ?, pour la SEC de Nici qui n'est pas X non plus !By taking the pre-order, you should expect to receive cards that you would not otherwise buy. @UllubuBy rating them low, you don't notice the girl's show but just your disappointment that the card is not x.Why took the pre-command?, for the SEC of Nici who is not X either!

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Alkasyn
De em Apr 2008

727 post(s)
August 20, 2020
If he says that someone have problems because of his weak vote, that is insulting.
The problems he is referring are mental.

It's not insulting in any way, and those are not mental problems.

And yes, if you bought a subsequent card of a girl who does not show everything expecting it to be differen despite all the odds, it is your fault you're still disappointed.

And if you want to say someting about being a victim of the preorder - well that's why YOU SHOULD NEVER PREORDER things. Period. It's very simple - if you don't want a cat in the bag, don't buy it and then act all surprised/disappointed.

Preorders of any kind, be it video games, books, or even pornographic shows with an estimated value of a dollar are always a bad business move for a consumer.
arise77
De em Mar 2008

196 post(s)
August 20, 2020
@TheEmu right, so you don't find it misleading that there is "Nudity" & "Full nudity show" on the same page, nor that one model's show is "Nudity" and the next one is "Full nudity" although they are basically the same type of shows, nor that a Sofie Lilith show has the same "Full nudity" label as an Alyssia Kent show.
Well, I guess we'll agree to disagree: when someone tries to sell 2 different things as the same and tries to blur the lines, I consider this misleading. 😜
arise77
De em Mar 2008

196 post(s)
August 20, 2020
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@arise 77 - sadly you have misinterpreted the purchase tab - it says "buy ... full nudity show" for every show regardless of content - all it means is buy the full show that includes nudity (as opposed to the previews that are only part of the show and normally exclude any nudity).

You have to look at the "hotness level" box in all cases to see how strong the show is going to be.

@pickle1 that's exactly my point, the purchase tab says the same thing, regardless of the show. Is it intentional? we don't know, but we know it's not telling you that some shows have less nudity than others. I didn't misinterpret anything, the tab says "full nudity show" not "full show featuring nudity".
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
August 20, 2020 (edited)
No, I do not find it misleading. If a "nudity" show was labeled "full nudity" or vice versa then that would be misleading, but that is not the case. There is perhaps a problem that each of these labels, particularly the second, is used for rather a broad range of experiences - but we both know that and are not therefore not misled (just lacking information). However that is a different matter - and one on which I fully agree with you.

I also agree the use of "full nudity show" on the purchase tab is unfortunate - I suspect that it is partly at least due to being translated from French - perhaps "full nude show" would be better, it would certainly be more correct grammar,

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