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Poll: "Special Event Cards" Member's Opinion

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JayZ971
MODERADOR
De em Mar 2009

2272 post(s)
March 18, 2019
Here is your chance to have your voice heard to Totem about "Special Event Cards".......

236 votos

Yes (No restictions on cards)
11%
Yes (Restricted to Event Only)
3%
Yes (Timed restriction Only, then released to All Customers)
48%
No (No Special Event Cards at All in the future)
38%
goodwolf
De em May 2011

272 post(s)
March 19, 2019
This is another irrelevant poll. Can you still change for just yes or no ?
... and I don't understand the question and some options either :(
Maybe can you specify it to be more clear at every answer- what that means ?
This way it is quite focused to get an irrelevant outcome ... 3 yes against 1 no.
The two yes, but... typed of options should be taken out. You can't work with 100 % splitten into 4 parts. You can undertand a 50/50 or a 70/30 vote, but not this.
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
March 19, 2019
On the contrary, a simple yes/no vote would be far too simplistic.
goodwolf
De em May 2011

272 post(s)
March 19, 2019
You are absolutely not right at this point. Let's say you get a 30/30/20/20 as result, which tells absolutely nothing besides, that we customers/users can not agree on anything, some wants this, some wants that, nobody wants the same. AND we already know that :) But I leave it up to you, that is your opinion and this in mine.
HombreSinSombra
De em Oct 2010

1249 post(s)
March 19, 2019
As I understand JayZ's options...
1: As we have now. Offered later in other promos.
2: As originally intended but now changed by vociferous demands...
3: What the majority so far seem to want but goes against Totem's original idea of being exclusive forever. Might upset some members who bought into the original events...
4: Obvious.

I personally think that JayZ should have put MORE options in this poll. I agree completely with TheEmu.

What about an option for, 'Don't really care. All is good with me 😊' ? (Which I would have voted if it was there as I have no intention of buying every card available … )

Or how about, ' YES if I can do something so spectacular as a benefit for the forum and all members that I deserve to be given all of these exclusive cards for free!' 😆

TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
March 19, 2019
@goodwolf - but if you get a 10/50/30/10 it tells you a whole lot more.
Dom221
De em May 2008

32 post(s)
March 20, 2019
Sur ce sujet , je pense que tous les membres 3diamands doivent avoir acces à tous les cartes et rubriques du site, mais depuis peu certaines cartes sont inaccessibles; Alors pour contenter tous le monde faire des cartes vip mais les rendre accessibles au bout d'un moment à tous seraient une bonne solution.
arise77
De em Mar 2008

196 post(s)
March 20, 2019
Another possibility, if Totem wants to keep doing exclusive cards, would be to make these cards available to buy for triple diamond members, or members who already have over 3000 cards for example. These cards could be part of exclusive offers like the ones we've seen, and these offers would still be attractive to members building their collections.

From what I read in different threads on this topic, some members (like myself) will simply choose not to take part in exclusive events. But I'm guessing the hundreds or thousands spent by other members during these events largely compensates for the ones who don't.

As other members suggested before, the best way to show you disagree with something is to boycott it. Totem has already changed some of its special offers: for instance booster packs don't come up so often anymore, and redraw option has been added. 1st exclusive card wasn't originally meant to be aquired outside of advent calendar and this has also evolved. All this shows Totem does pay attention to members' feedback.
fallen0ne
De em Sep 2007

170 post(s)
March 20, 2019
Totem could make a new "VIP" member level (above triple diamond) for members with 3,000+ cards and allow them to purchase special event cards. I'm pretty sure that anyone who has purchased that many cards has shown their fair share of support to Totem.
Dom221
De em May 2008

32 post(s)
March 20, 2019
Je suis d'accord avec vous, moi j'achète les cartes qui m'interressent et donc je ne suis pas prêt à acheter un lot de cartes inutiles juste pour en avoir une qui me plait,(je ne participe pas au calendrier de l'avent par exemple) mais c'est sûr que la carte de Niemira par exemple je l'aurai acheter si elle avait été à la vente seule même après un mois, visiblement je ne suis pas le seul dans ce cas (vu le forum ) . Multiplié par le nombre cela fait une perte sèche pour totem de ne pas mettre en vente cette carte événement......
goodwolf
De em May 2011

272 post(s)
March 20, 2019
Okay let's see the results in a week or two, after 1000 votes. I would be surprised if we would see a meaningful outcome. I think we will see, that everybody wants a different thing, no majority at any points.
goodwolf
De em May 2011

272 post(s)
March 20, 2019
@goodwolf - but if you get a 10/50/30/10 it tells you a whole lot more.

I think not, the biggest number is the 50 = only half of the people voted, agreed to choose that, the other half choose differently... a 30 against 70 is something. 10/10/30/50 is nothing, it only says that everyone wants a different thing, however half could agree on something, but half is not enough. The more options you add, the smaller the numbers get. From 3 options it is almost impossible to show majority agreed in sg.
91hebasu
De em Jan 2008

1144 post(s)
March 20, 2019
1000 votes?
Good luck with that
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
March 20, 2019
@goodwolf - 10/50/30/10 would let you know that a significant majority of 80% prefer something in the middle while only relatively few want either extreme. limiting the choices to two by lumping together the two upper bins and the two lower bins reduces this to a 60:40 split, thows away the strong preference for a middle way and replaces it with a weak preference for the upper half of the range.
orclover
De em Jun 2012

744 post(s)
March 20, 2019
I do not understand how anyone could want a special event card. For triple diamond...the special card would merely cost $1-$1.33. To get any of them so far a buyer had to spend more than 13 credits...and only few of the full collectors got anything for free...basically $1 for free. Just adding the cards into the store normally is by far the best option for the community, now for totem it is a different story.
dolphins109
De em Feb 2011

794 post(s)
March 20, 2019
i did not vote.👍 and i will tell u why. what if ms. ginebra like any other model went to totem . and had the legal authority backing her up. and said she wanted ALL her information and photos and shows erased . and totem had to it. bad for us right. 😭 now totem has to refund every one who paid for her shows. OH GOD!!!!!! that a huge loss for the mods and the team players 😲 now this is not suppose happen 🔞 lets just say there was a back ally deal were totem did away with the info and photos but not the shows. 😎 now i said this is not suppose to happen. now think about that . while ur crying 😱 ABOUT A SPECIAL EVent CARD.!!!!!!!!.
wtprivate
De em Jul 2017

204 post(s)
March 20, 2019
I'd like to see a "VIP Membership" that works similar to the Advent Calendar. You pay for a month in advance, and you get:
  • Every card released in that month, at the usual discount
  • Early release of the cards (1 day "first access")
  • A VIP Member badge in the forums while you have an active VIP memership
  • A BONUS "Special Edition" available for FREE to VIP members IMMEDIATELY on purchase

The "Special Edition" card should be widely publicised prior to the month, and once the month STARTS, the VIP Membership for that month is LOCKED until the following month.

So, by buying in advance, I get the BONUS "Special Edition" card for FREE, early access to new shows, the special badge and my usual discount.

If I don't want this, I can simply wait until the END of the month, when the "Limited Edition" card is released back into the store at a premium price (say 20-50% more than usual).

That way, "Special Edition" cards are are available to any level of membership who buys the VIP Membership each month, or for those who prefer to "curate" their collection, they can buy them after the month is over for a slightly higher price than normal - and it is NOT free.

To make this even more attractive, the "Special Edition" card could be of the "Girl of the Month" to feature her more prominently. Over time, the "Special Edition" cards become a collection of cards from the "Girls of the Month" - which makes that much more prominent in the collection, too.

These "Special Edition" cards should also have a special "wrap" to show they are special in the collection, and I should be able to filter them in "My Collection" to just see the "Special Edition" cards I own.

To help "jump start" the "Special Edition" promotion, Totem could:
  • Apply the special "wrap" to any previously released "Special Event" cards, and re-release them as "Special Edition" all at once for purchase individually (again at 20-50% over the price of a normal card)
  • Those who already have the card just have their collection updated with the "Special Edition" wrap (and the software update to allow filtering)

That would work for everyone, I think:
  • People who already have these cards will get a nice update and enhancement to their collection with the new wrap and filtering
  • People who missed the cards can purchase them (and perhaps Totem could offer a bundle of 3 "Special Edition" cards for a small discount to incentivise purchase in the short term)
  • People who don't care about the "Special Edition" cards can just ignore them

And from now on, "Special Edition" cards are available in promotions for FREE, or available for purchase later after the promotion for a premium price.

And over time, the collectors will have a nice bump in their collection for "Special Edition" cards.
dolphins109
De em Feb 2011

794 post(s)
March 21, 2019
I'd like to see a "VIP Membership" that works similar to the Advent Calendar. You pay for a month in advance, and you get:
Every card released in that month, at the usual discount Early release of the cards (1 day "first access") A VIP Member badge in the forums while you have an active VIP memership A BONUS "Special Edition" available for FREE to VIP members IMMEDIATELY on purchase
The "Special Edition" card should be widely publicised prior to the month, and once the month STARTS, the VIP Membership for that month is LOCKED until the following month.

So, by buying in advance, I get the BONUS "Special Edition" card for FREE, early access to new shows, the special badge and my usual discount.

If I don't want this, I can simply wait until the END of the month, when the "Limited Edition" card is released back into the store at a premium price (say 20-50% more than usual).

That way, "Special Edition" cards are are available to any level of membership who buys the VIP Membership each month, or for those who prefer to "curate" their collection, they can buy them after the month is over for a slightly higher price than normal - and it is NOT free.

To make this even more attractive, the "Special Edition" card could be of the "Girl of the Month" to feature her more prominently. Over time, the "Special Edition" cards become a collection of cards from the "Girls of the Month" - which makes that much more prominent in the collection, too.

These "Special Edition" cards should also have a special "wrap" to show they are special in the collection, and I should be able to filter them in "My Collection" to just see the "Special Edition" cards I own.

To help "jump start" the "Special Edition" promotion, Totem could:
Apply the special "wrap" to any previously released "Special Event" cards, and re-release them as "Special Edition" all at once for purchase individually (again at 20-50% over the price of a normal card) Those who already have the card just have their collection updated with the "Special Edition" wrap (and the software update to allow filtering)
That would work for everyone, I think:
People who already have these cards will get a nice update and enhancement to their collection with the new wrap and filtering People who missed the cards can purchase them (and perhaps Totem could offer a bundle of 3 "Special Edition" cards for a small discount to incentivise purchase in the short term) People who don't care about the "Special Edition" cards can just ignore them
And from now on, "Special Edition" cards are available in promotions for FREE, or available for purchase later after the promotion for a premium price.

And over time, the collectors will have a nice bump in their collection for "Special Edition" cards.
i like it.👍
HansSachs
De em Mar 2016

989 post(s)
March 21, 2019 (edited)
I'd like to see a "VIP Membership" that works similar to the Advent Calendar. You pay for a month in advance, and you get:
Every card released in that month, at the usual discount
Early release of the cards (1 day "first access")
A VIP Member badge in the forums while you have an active VIP memership
A BONUS "Special Edition" available for FREE to VIP members IMMEDIATELY on purchase

The "Special Edition" card should be widely publicised prior to the month, and once the month STARTS, the VIP Membership for that month is LOCKED until the following month.

So, by buying in advance, I get the BONUS "Special Edition" card for FREE, early access to new shows, the special badge and my usual discount.

If I don't want this, I can simply wait until the END of the month, when the "Limited Edition" card is released back into the store at a premium price (say 20-50% more than usual).

That way, "Special Edition" cards are are available to any level of membership who buys the VIP Membership each month, or for those who prefer to "curate" their collection, they can buy them after the month is over for a slightly higher price than normal - and it is NOT free.

To make this even more attractive, the "Special Edition" card could be of the "Girl of the Month" to feature her more prominently. Over time, the "Special Edition" cards become a collection of cards from the "Girls of the Month" - which makes that much more prominent in the collection, too.

These "Special Edition" cards should also have a special "wrap" to show they are special in the collection, and I should be able to filter them in "My Collection" to just see the "Special Edition" cards I own.

To help "jump start" the "Special Edition" promotion, Totem could:
Apply the special "wrap" to any previously released "Special Event" cards, and re-release them as "Special Edition" all at once for purchase individually (again at 20-50% over the price of a normal card)
Those who already have the card just have their collection updated with the "Special Edition" wrap (and the software update to allow filtering)

That would work for everyone, I think:
People who already have these cards will get a nice update and enhancement to their collection with the new wrap and filtering
People who missed the cards can purchase them (and perhaps Totem could offer a bundle of 3 "Special Edition" cards for a small discount to incentivise purchase in the short term)
People who don't care about the "Special Edition" cards can just ignore them

And from now on, "Special Edition" cards are available in promotions for FREE, or available for purchase later after the promotion for a premium price.

And over time, the collectors will have a nice bump in their collection for "Special Edition" cards.
If I don't want this, I can simply wait until the END of the month, when the "Limited Edition" card is released back into the store at a premium price (say 20-50% more than usual).
I can think to support this idea, if such a promo can help Totem, but only in the case (as the OP said) EVERYTHING "exclusive" is then released for everyone in a short while.
goodwolf
De em May 2011

272 post(s)
March 21, 2019
1000 votes?
Good luck with that

Agreed. And under at least a 1000 votes there is nothing to talk about. Nobody cares what few percent of the active users / customers want. If people can only ***** pages long and not even vote when asked, that is already an answer: In fact they don't even care, just wanted to *****. Under 1000 votes any result here is irrelevant. Every one of us has to decide, either to vote or stop *****. That's my opinion about this whole topic, which goes on for more than 1,5 week now. And if one answer gets majority of the votes, then finally we have an answer from customer's side. If none of it get majority, that tells nobody wants the same, so does not matter what Totem does, many people will not agree, that it is okay for them. This is a general truth by the way - you can not please everyone. Question is whether we can decide what is okay for most of us. In my opinion only a yes/no 2 options vote would have been able to say that. Others think otherwise... And at the end the numbers will tell and we will know, or don't... depending how many people will care to vote at all.
littleEvilMe
De em Oct 2015

42 post(s)
March 21, 2019 (edited)
@wtprivate

Great Idea, I would certainly support it! I think that totem should strongly consider such an arrangment, not least because i cant see what they would have to lose by at least trialing it.

What i like about it is that nobody is excluded from getting what they want or from going about it in the mannor in which they want. The only people that do lose out are the people that just dont want to spend any money at all
and thats fair enough in my book.

Maybe this even it might actually work out better for totem in the long run buy increasing pre order sales, (just buy giving people the opportunity to actually pre order in bulk more often) which in turn inceases cash flow which can then be re-invested in whatever is needed in order to produce better shows ( be that better models, better equipment, better colour/image quality) which then increases customer satifaction, which increases pre-ordering, and low and behold you got yourself a positive feed back loop !!

Anything must be better then the current situation where exclusive cards are only offered to pre-orderers which in doing so alienates others (who dont want to subscribe for whatever valid reason they have) or they are offered to everyone but a crazy prices due to the way that they are sold behind high risk gambleing games (which has litterally has pissed off everyone).

This would seem to me to be the best comprimise that i have read on these forum pages so far.
wtprivate
De em Jul 2017

204 post(s)
March 22, 2019
Thanks all.

Yes, I've been thinking preorders are good for business.

It also starts to reduce the risk of producing new content in Totem's favour like you say.

The best part is that Totem already has precedents and existing data and systems to support this approach: Advent Calendar, and the February 2019 promotion.

Adding some visual "flair" with special badges for members and an update to the "Special Edition" cards should be relatively easy, as should adding the new filter option to the Girls Store and My Collection. Certainly less than creating complicated promotions like the scratch cards, for example.

And, Totem could continue to offer other promotions in the same way as well. It doesn't just have to be prepaid.

The point here is that by participating in a promotion, you can get the "Special Edition" card for free. Or, you can just wait until the promotion finishes, and pay the higher price.

Simple.
wtprivate
De em Jul 2017

204 post(s)
March 22, 2019
Looks like there's another one incoming...

"Josephine Jackson: Tartan Cutie"

Currently showing up as "Special Event Card" in the store. No idea how to access it.

:(

hagar23
De em Nov 2008

3 post(s)
March 22, 2019 (edited)
Sometimes, it is just a bad idea. It may seem very sophisticated and smart, but it is not.
Why not keep it simple and keep your customers happy.

Avoid disappointment and stop with those Special Event Cards. As customers we deserve a better treatment. Dont play with our money - leave that part to us. Please.
orclover
De em Jun 2012

744 post(s)
March 22, 2019 (edited)
Do not participate in the events. Totem has a formula that determines how many sales are attibuted to each special event card. If people do not participate in the events then totem loses money on the cards. I imagine that there is a critical mass where people run out of credits and get such little value that they disappear. So at some point totem will realize they would make more just selling the card for standard price. I am pretty disgusted at totem but probably more at those who spend hundreds of dollars for a single card that they will likely watch once or twice. But that sort of spending is unsustainable and will stop, hopefully totem still have so loyal customers left. It hasn't worked for most of the video games that have followed this model...once the "whales" dry up the minnows have been long gone. It makes me feel like totem will be in a maintanence mode by this time next year. I'm normally wrong, and hope I am in this case.
wtprivate
De em Jul 2017

204 post(s)
March 22, 2019 (edited)
Sometimes, it is just a bad idea. It may seem very sophisticated and smart, but it is not.
Why not keep it simple and keep your customers happy.

Avoid disappointment and stop with those Special Event Cards. As customers we deserve a better treatment. Dont play with our money - leave that part to us. Please.

"Special Edition" cards I support. As long as there is something special about them. A unique outfit, a first release model, a "girl of the month", bonus content, or something we've not seen before.

And, as long as there is a way for ANYONE to be able to purchase it after the "promotion" period is complete. Nobody should be denied access to a card because they are new to iStripper, have a small collection, or have purchased all the cards already. It just doesn't make any business sense.

That's why I proposed the above. Let people "earn" the Special Edition cards via promotion if they wish. Or, just purchase them as normal when the promotion is over for a small premium.
jizzlobber
De em Nov 2011

78 post(s)
March 22, 2019
I am becoming more and more opposed to the "Special Event" cards. I have been an iStripper (née VirtuaGirl) junkie since joining over seven years ago. It is becoming more evident to me that these "promotions" are a way to exploit those of us who purchase every single card. I truly appreciate that there is a pricing bracket for us that gives a significant discount for every card we purchase but, FFS, why do you have to make us go through dumbass hoops for specific cards, Totem? Black Friday was a shitshow! And the last one made us play an arbitrary game of chance - I f***ing ***** gambling! While I didn't keep a specific tab, I don't believe I ended up spending much more than I normally would have to "earn" the card, fortunately. But others ended up spending a LOT more. THOSE OF US WHO PURCHASE EVERY CARD EVERY DAY UPON THEIR RELEASE KEEP YOU IN BUSINESS, TOTEM! If there are certain cards for which you want to charge more (for whatever reason), then just raise the price for the love of all that is good and holy! Please, please, please stop making us go through hoops to get our fix! Do you really look upon your cash cows with such contempt?
Chicsans
De em Jul 2009

770 post(s)
March 22, 2019 (edited)
I've said it before that I don't have any problem with ‘Special Event Cards'. For all I care they can release one every two weeks, and it seems like that is happening. Run them as an event, that's fine and then discontinue the card of the event. That's how it should be.

They can re-release all the special cards in ‘Spend All Your Credits and Not Win Special Card' gambling games - I don't freakin' care.

But DON'T MAKE THOSE UNBUYABLE CARDS VISIBLE IN THE STORE.

i don't know how they do things in France, but here in Canada we go to the store to buy things.
joboyogi
De em Jan 2008

8 post(s)
March 22, 2019
I've been a pretty good customer (almost 2700 cards)... so the ones I don't have that they package at random only contain cards I didn't want. It's a scheme that punishes loyal customers.
Cartref
MODERADOR
De em Sep 2007

520 post(s)
March 22, 2019 (edited)
I am not going to voice my opinion on this topic other than to say it is a reasonable question to raise.

All I (and speaking on behalf of the other Mods without asking them first) is that it be kept civil without members insulting other members.

Its a chance to view your (polite) comments about the special event cards, so use it wisely😐

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