@gkar45 Yes, I am aware of that. I downloaded a few shows from Deskbabes and Virtuguy to try them out. I'll admit that Virtuaguy wasn't and isn't exactly my forta because the masculinity of men doesn't turn me on. It has nothing to do with body parts though so, yes, I find Transwomen to be attractive and a turn-on, as long as she's transitioned to the point that she looks like a woman. In other words no 5:00 shadow, beard stubble, or body hair. I know it say's I joined in March 2008 but thats not entirely correct only when Totem made a record of it. I first downloaded Virtuagirl way back in 2000 when the dancers were only about 1 1/4 inches tall. Nikki Nova was my favorite back then. :) So, even though I don't post or comment often I've been around for a long while.

Trans-women usually take more pride in how they look and tend to take better care of themselves as oppossed to straight women.

Excuse me? And you scientifically deduced this with backed-up proof from thousands of test subjects???


I have nothing against transgender people. At least one of my friends here is transgender. I just don't get turned on by seeing it.
I only want to see natural born females here. 😍

@HombreSinSombra And I respect your opinion. Same as everyone else's opinion here. To each there own. 👍

I find Transwomen to be attractive and a turn-on, as long as she's transitioned to the point that she looks like a woman.

So if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, what's wrong with a real duck? Would you know the difference if a transgender woman had gone all the way surgically? I doubt any of us would, going off images and videos.


Let's say Totem released a card and stated that this 'woman' used to be a man just for fun. Would that turn you on more than a normal card?


Then let's say Totem told us all that it was a joke and she was really born a woman. Would that make you angry?

I'd be interested to know. Seriously 😇

I find Transwomen to be attractive and a turn-on, as long as she's transitioned to the point that she looks like a woman.
So if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, what's wrong with a real duck? Would you know the difference if a transgender woman had gone all the way surgically? I doubt any of us would, going off images and videos.


Let's say Totem released a card and stated that this 'woman' used to be a man just for fun. Would that turn you on more than a normal card?


Then let's say Totem told us all that it was a joke and she was really born a woman. Would that make you angry?

I'd be interested to know. Seriously 😇

If Totem released a card stating this hot woman was born a man then I'd be fine with it - I'd just not purchase the card no matter how attractive "she" looks.
At the end of the day that person doesn't have a real vagina and never will, ever, regardless - in our lifetime. Its literally that simple.

If Totem released a card stating this hot woman was born a man then I'd be fine with it - I'd just not purchase the card no matter how attractive "she" looks.
At the end of the day that person doesn't have a real vagina and never will, ever, regardless - in our lifetime. Its literally that simple.

@Evo: I think the majority are all agreed and that's why this whole argument will fail here but I would really like to hear how the proponents THINK. This says more about them than transgender people 😉

If Totem released a card stating this hot woman was born a man then I'd be fine with it - I'd just not purchase the card no matter how attractive "she" looks.
At the end of the day that person doesn't have a real vagina and never will, ever, regardless - in our lifetime. Its literally that simple.

@Evo: I think the majority are all agreed and that's why this whole argument will fail here but I would really like to hear how the proponents THINK. This says more about them than transgender people 😉

@HombreSinSombra there is no argument in this forum topic. Myself I've previously explained how I don't mind it. So sure, I THINK how I like, not influential by others 😉

Sorry. I think you misunderstood my last. Nothing against you, buddy 😇

Nothing against anybody really. I suspect (NO scientific proof involved) that the guys who want this are or could be closet gay or bisexual. No disrespect intended @anyone. There must be other places for their pleasure.


I'm a straight, heterosexual male and don't understand why others get turned on by seeing this stuff. I guess gay or bisexual people think the same way towards heteros… Therefore we will never understand each other.


However, the be all and end all of iStripper (VirtuaGirl) is to produce and sell cards of models who are natural women. 20+ million people have signed up over 20 years to that end. Spin offs are fine but should always be kept separate imho.

"Trans-women usually take more pride in how they look and tend to take better care of themselves as oppossed to straight women."

That post strikes this thought....

I'm of the Opinion that just like the High Fashion Industry,
this life style, creates a very false persona of what it means to be a Woman.

Real Women, generally don't have bodies and features that High Fashion Models do, or persons of this lifestyle do.
High fashion Models and persons in this lifestyle many of which have done body reconstruction to achieve what they believe is the Ideal form.

Girls look to emulate their role models, and in doing so, cause themselves emotional and physical *****.
Girls need to be brought up to Love themselves for who they are and for the body type they have.

And of course, Boys have to be raised to love and appreciate Girls, just as they are.

In my World, there are only Two Biological Genders.
and each and every one is Perfect, just as God created them to be.

I had an image all ready to upload here using Wyld's body type chart but still we can't upload images here unless a mod says we can. So we have to PM a mod to ask permission so as not to upset new or potential members with a cartoon pic of a woman who isn't even naked on an ADULT website... FFS...

Edit: Seriously, Team Totem. You know me and most of us regulars by now. So if we want to post a fun or educational pic in this section, the fixed rule says we can't?

Come ON! Anybody entering this forum by accident that can at least understand English will KNOW that it's an adult site.

PLEASE, PLEASE,PLEASE allow us to post pics here in this section. 😕

You need to add an emoji with a kitten's crying, begging eyes too...

Ahh yes, this is the Public NEW / FREE members thread...
I sometimes forget that.... This is a Public Forum Thread.
Everyone, even non-Members can view it.

So No Member of any level can post pictures to it...
Only Team members, and apparently MODs too...

PM me, if it's acceptable I can add it to your post...
That also goes out to other members as well...

as long as I have time, and the Mods aren't overwhelmed with request...

Let's just say that it takes a strong man to become a woman. Most of those who attempt this transformation do not have the strength of person to complete the gender reassignment and become the travesties and mockeries that are ***** by the seediest side of the porn industry, or end up selling their bodies to sick perverts in back alleys to get money to buy ***** that might help them to forget what they tried to do to their bodies. Or end up as suicides. The small percentage that actually do make it and are completely gender reassigned probably just want to live out their lives as men and women without being noticed or bothered by the world for their own personal choices.

Can this thread be closed before somebody gets *****?

The small percentage that actually do make it and are completely gender reassigned probably just want to live out their live's as women without being noticed or bothered by the world for their own personal choices.

Thankyou, my friend. THAT says it all 😉

@Chicsans. You know me and also know that I would never deliberately try to ***** anyone. Except in self-defence... Then the nukes come out to play...😒


I ***** bullies of all kinds and will always try to defend the underdog in my own way, if I can. In this case, I disagree respectfully and ask that this topic is discussed to the ultimate death it deserves. Thank you.

If it becomes *****, we will definitely close it.

However, we don't normally close a thread by request unless the OP is the one making said request. The OP hasn't used the software for over a year and hasn't visited the forum for even longer than that. So, it seems unlikely that she will be asking us to close it.

@Chicsans
I like your current "Bound" avatar
😉

From here on out, in this topic I would like all to know that everything I say is coming from the view that iStripper (formerly VirtuaGirl) was and is conceived to produce and supply entertainment for people who LIKE women. No catches.


We see threads like this all the time from people who want Totem to do this, do that and do everything to please everyone's tastes. As we've seen in the past, most of these suggestions fail as the market is limited. Some may ask, 'Have you really thought about it, Totem?' I'm pretty sure that Team Totem have thought much more than most people about what they can make money on.
Taking the fun and aesthetics out of the equation, taking the whole idea that niche market wants and needs would be good for all still begs the question, ' Should we try it?'


As has been said many, many times before, VirtuaGuy failed and was shut down before too much money was lost. Too few buyers. This was probably one of the biggest markets available after single women, duos of both sexes and 3 or more persons. I have no data to back up that statement and can't be arsed searching for it 😐 Pretty fair guess tho, methinks.


So, every time someone asks for something that's a little off the norm here, the answer will usually be the same. Not worth the effort. Sorry. In Spanish, I like the phrase, ' No merece la pena', which is the same as not worth it.

Ergo, no merece la pena goes for just about every topic where someone asks for something that they already know is a niche type of thing. Not enough peeps want it. No merece la pena!

Sure. We can keep on asking for all kinds of stuff and sometimes we get what we ask for. BUT and this is the main, huge BUT...
Totem is a business that needs to make a profit to survive. Regardless of what a few people want to see.

What should Totem do? I think they already do what they should and weigh-up whether or not they can make a profit or, 'No merece la pena!).

I have read all the comments and don't think it would ***** totem to try one model and see how it goes?
could even have a poll to see which model to try?
As people keep mentioning its a business not a
program for morals/judgement

Due to the 'special offers' I have so far gotten all the 'older' cards . And, for me, part of the fun with iStripper is those special boxes and other such events. If T-girls were to be included then that would be the end of buying offers with random cards for me since that card could be included. I would probably end buying credits at that point, and begin looking for another product.

And if iStripper had included T-girls cards when I joined I wouldn't have done so.

So, yes, I think it would ***** Totem to try and include one T-girl card in iStripper. A lot.

With that said, I have no objections if T-girls are in a separate product.

I agree with you on that point it would have to be set up as a seperate option a bit like the special cards they have now where they aren't included in the regular/special promotions options

For me it would have to be a completely separate product, like the gay cards have always been and like DeskBabes was before it was merged into the mainline as iStripperXXX (which I still think was a mistake).

I know I wouldn't want to have T-Girls. Much rather just stick with the women.

the #1 default on such a card is th@ the under lying description would have't ta say trans geder

Why? If all of the required surgeries are completed and the paperwork has been registered with her country of origin that person is legally female. You know - looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck -

looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck -

But is a GOOSE in a DUCKS disguise -- Sorry, You Can't Change the DNA that Exists in Every Single Cell of the Body..
Pick a Cell any Cell, and Examine it... It will tell you that Biologically that Duck is still a Goose...

What you wrote is totally irrevelant to my question of why would placing a tag stating that the performer is transgender be the number one priority.

If a performer has “all the right junk in all the right places” and has poise and can move well then no chromasone labelling is necessary.

This is a desktop video application after all, and the last time I checked, there was no “scratch and sniff” option available in the settings.

@Wyldanmal

Pick a Cell any Cell, and Examine it... It will tell you that Biologically that Duck is still a Goose...

That analogy is scientifically simply not true. Not only are there factors over and above simple DNA involved (epigenetics and environmental effects during development) that can radically affect matters there are also chimeras that can form when two early fetuses merge (a bit like an extreme example of Siamese Twins) which as I understand it can lead to a body in which different organs have different sexes.

There is also the observation that essentaily all women that have given birth retain some cells that are genetically identical to their offspring - these are spread thoughout the mother's body and are as likely to be male as they are female. However,as the number of these cells is small this only has ***** effects unlike the epigenetic and developmental effects I previously mentioned.

@gkar45

The slogan on the website landing page reads “Hot babes perform exclusive erotic shows on your desktop”

There is reference to pornstars and models.

There is nothing stopping a transgender woman from being a hot babe, a pornstar or a model so there is really no need for a transgender tag on the cards.

I think that transgender is not in the idea of the Totem's team. And we can say and write all we want, Totem will never cast this kind of model.
PS : it's just my opinion and I don't want to see transgender models on iStripper.

There could be a filter for example trans women which is disabled by default so they are essentially hidden on the store and will not be drawn from lucky dip packs and stuff.

But if you you tick the filter then the trans women cards show and you can also get them in lucky packs.

Levi,

Sorry but you are missing the point. It's not the objection of members VIEWING the cards, it is the volume of members who will want to buy the cards that is the issue.

Currently the trending view is strongly that members do not want to buy such cards and given that this is a COMMERCIAL enterprise, Totem are extremely unlikely to produce cards where there isn't a commercial return.