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My classic Question To Totem.  

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FX000
De em Dec 2008

601 post(s)
May 30, 2011
Is it possible you will be re-releasing Christine Young's card?

If peeps in Community Vote, Hopefully We shall see if She is wanted by others too ;)


"I want this card,..Do You?" ;)

96 votos

Yes
56%
No
44%
Spacephantom
De em Nov 2008

768 post(s)
May 30, 2011
Far too young looking for my liking anyway. I voted no, since she's just not my type. As CV said though, her set will likely be released as long as the video footage is in reasonable shape.

Not one I'll want to have in my collection though.
FX000
De em Dec 2008

601 post(s)
May 30, 2011
Ty For the comments N votes,CV & Space. :)

Yes She do look "young" ,I think she could handle some Rapid Fire.

Bad FX000!"Grow Up!":p hehe!

I've had a crush her for a long time. ;)
FX000
De em Dec 2008

601 post(s)
May 31, 2011
Yes i agree,To Portray her as a kid is "not sexy". The Porn Ind. Do that silly spit!

She's a Cute And A Woman too me! ;)
DIDGEDRUM
De em Mar 2008

2336 post(s)
May 31, 2011
Yes Yes Yes YES YES YES..........YES !....Hell, if I'd only known she'd been on VG2, I would have , ooOOOH !...I would have......You just see if I wouldn't......
PS: I always thought she WAS young !.....Arf !...Drool !..Sluuurpp !....
plasonic
De em Dec 2007

1325 post(s)
May 31, 2011 (edited)
Taboo in Mind Beats Taboo in Kind!

(...also...Orange in Grinds Beats Orange in Rind!
but that's mostly da kine true in Hawaii & is a another story entirely........!!)
:)

Keep repeating....

"It's only a movie!
It's only a movie!
It's only a movie!"
:)
DIDGEDRUM
De em Mar 2008

2336 post(s)
May 31, 2011

WickedyWanketyWoo,
I'm equally Pervy, it's true,
Taboo in da Mind,
Beats Taboo in da Behind,
I'd give it One,... wouldn't you ???...
Number1OldGuy
De em Jan 2011

61 post(s)
June 14, 2011
I just bought my first Classic.Very Cool.A little fuzzy.But,she`s a little Doll. I admit,I chose,one of the younger looking ones.I like cute....And also,all of these girls.Are a lot older now.I would say.mid thirtys.Especially,my love, Sharka.. But even the so called teens on Ampland,are a lot older,right this minute.You could be shopping,right next to them.And not know,who it was....When I see Brigit Bardot,in an old movie.I sit and watch....Beauty,never gets old..Over eighteen,is not, too young.They`re giving it up, to somebody.Christine is FINE...
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
June 15, 2011
Three guesses which way I voted...
wolffrnd
De em Nov 2008

120 post(s)
June 16, 2011
I don't mind that she looks a little young, I just don't think she is that attractive.
Cartref
MODERADOR
De em Sep 2007

520 post(s)
June 16, 2011
I have a very long memory and in the history of VG models, I cannot recall a model who generated more angry or heated discussions. This card left the "bottle" issues pale by comparision.

What sealed it for me, was a member in another place of very good standing, who happened to be a Bus Driver in real life and often had the school run.
He spoke very passionately about the you girls trying to look older to satisfy perceived wants/needs.

He felt as did just about everyone one else that this was a card beyound the bounds.

I still respect that member's opinions and agree with them to this day. Totem did not produce another card like it. They might have had an adult dress like a *****, but it was always obvious that it was an adult, this one was too close.

By the way, I do not recall the second pic that FX posted at all, but I cannot get to my old VG2 collection at the moment to double check. Obviously it was there because of the logos etc. Maybe an "old age" brain malfunction or aybe, I just relegated this card straight to the archives??
peterbanker
De em Jan 2009

224 post(s)
June 16, 2011
I voted yes and hope her animations are good enough to be released as a Classic card.
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
February 29, 2012 (edited)
:bump: :bump: :nudge: :nudge: 😉 😉

Come on, Totem, please don't save the best for last. I have been waiting for this card for a long time as I am going to make it the first card I buy of the Classic collection. Yeah, she looks young, but don't let that stop you. She was in the adult industry for a while before you guys got her for a VG2 card and is clearly legal; and she is a long time favorite of mine. Those who think she looks too young don't need to buy her, so that should not negatively influence the release of this classic card either.

In fact, if I am not mistaken, she was 19 when you guys shot her, since iirc, it was about a yer after I discovered her on the web and bought one of her adult DVD's. Don't use double standards... you continue to release school girl cards, so why wait to release a model who embodies that look? And she definitely does not look any younger than some of your more recent releases, like Mirka, for example.

Please do not keep us Christine Young fans waiting.
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
February 29, 2012
Crossed what line? She looks young, but definitely does not look any younger than other models here on site. She is legal, and she has a fresh young look. If that wasn't popular, Totem would stop releasing school girl cards.
Spacephantom
De em Nov 2008

768 post(s)
February 29, 2012
Personally I wish they would stop releasing school girl cards. They do absolutely nothing for me and usually only succeed in making a grown woman look a bit silly.
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
February 29, 2012
Yes Spacephantom, you seem to be consistent in that opinion. But why do you buy them then? And CV, I have been with VG for ages. I remember that some people ***** when Christine was released in VG2. It was not, however, a majority, as you and Cartref would have people believe.

At any rate, it is a double standard. The young girl theme is popular, and sells in the adult industry. So when a model comes along who epitomises that look, any controversy caused is the showcasing of that double standard, unless those making the noise have refrained from buying any ***** cards, and from those that push the young girl envelope even further, like some of the VG2 cards that capitalized on a ***** theme. Your statement that she looks 'too young' is just a matter of opinion. Some people share that opinion with you, and others share my opinion that she does not look too young. I have never seen any ***** girl who is built like Christine - not to say that they don't exist.

If what bothered your husband was young girls trying to look older to satisfy perceived wants, why does a model embracing her youth bother him? I would think the cards that would bother him would be those where 18 and 19 year olds try to look worldly and sophisticated.
DIDGEDRUM
De em Mar 2008

2336 post(s)
February 29, 2012

I've been misunderstood for all of my life
But what they're sayin', girl, just cuts like a knife
"The boy's no good"

Well, I finally found what I've been lookin' for
But if they get a chance they'll end it for sure
Sure they would
Baby I've done all I could
it's up to you

Girl, you'll be a woman soon
Please come take my hand
Girl, you'll be a woman soon
Soon, you'll need a man.....

( Address Enclosed )
Spacephantom
De em Nov 2008

768 post(s)
February 29, 2012 (edited)
Eh? Oh yes - some people have to buy their cards. Forgot about that - he he!

Anyway, My affiliate site wouldn't be much much cop if I didn't review all the cards, whether I like them or not.
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
February 29, 2012
The reason, CV, is because you seemed to intend to make your post a matter of fact, when it really was nothing but opinion, as you have just admitted. The way I remember the VG2 controversy about Christine was that a handful of people in high standing in the community made a lot of noise and intimidated anybody else who differed from them in their opinion using the kiddie porn card. Well, it didn't seem fair to me then, and it does not seem fair now.

As I have stated, that Christine looks "too young" is just a matter of opinion and not everybody shares it. In fact, some people will not post here because they do not want to offend those who share your view, CV. Others may feel intimidated. Somebody needs to express the dissenting POV so that we Christine Young fans (who are many judging by the success of her site and how well her VG2 debut did despite all of the noise) get a fair shake.

And Space... you lucky dog! Keep those excellent reviews coming.
SimWarlock
De em Apr 2009

210 post(s)
February 29, 2012
I say yes because Tabatha looks just as young without any controversy.
I understand where you come from, it's just not for me to say not to produce the card. And all the cards cross the line with a group and others don't.
It's all a matter of personal taste, if you like the card or you don't.
I liked Christine back with the StripSaver.
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
February 29, 2012
Yes, I read that, CV. You took me to task for differing with your opinion, so why did you bother to respond when I voiced my opinion and bumped this thread back to the top? You were, in fact, by posting a reply after my bump voicing disagreement with my opinion. As far as I am concerned, that opens the door for debate.
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
February 29, 2012
I totally agree, SimWarlock. In my opinion, there were several VG2 girls who looked just as young as Christine and Totem capitalized on that without any controversy. So the debate over Christine makes little sense. There are some VGHD models also who look just as young. I already mentioned Mirka, and there are others.
SimWarlock
De em Apr 2009

210 post(s)
February 29, 2012
@boan000
just let it go it's a no win scenario.
with no right answer.
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
February 29, 2012
Hey man, I'm just trying to get Totem to expedite the release of this Classic card. I won't be buying any classics until they do.

I respect the opposing POV, I just hope to make Totem understand that a majority feel as I do (the ratings on Christine's VG2 card prove that), but are intimidated because the last time this debate raged, the kp trump card came to the table and intimidated those who did not share CV's opinion.
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
February 29, 2012 (edited)
CV, you said, "boan i am entitled to my opinion, why you feel you must argue your point with me I do not know,", yet it was you who couldn't resist posting when I bumped this thread. I am not looking for an argument, but I will defend my opinion and not be intimidated. In the VG2 days, those who shared my opinion were silenced by the equating of Christine to kiddie porn. I remained silent, but it did not seem fair to me. It was all very silly, imo, since other VG2 models looked just as young anf Totem capitalized on that.

Anyway, I have something at stake now, and am getting a little worried that maybe Totem is undecided about releasing this card because of the noise that those who think she looks too young are making about. The ratings on her card disagree with your statement that she was not popular, and with Cartref's that "just about everyone else" shared that opinion. Since this card was indeed pretty popular, I am wondering why it has not been released yet.

And I am sorry, but the double standard is clear. I not sure why you can't see that. If people did not fantasize about young girls, the ***** cards would be totally unpopular. Also, the adult industry would not release so many films that focus on that theme. So when a girl who looks young yet causes controversy, comes to the forefront, the double standard about that young girl fantasy should be exposed. Christine has always been legal, and that is what matters. Whether she "looks too young" is nothing more than a matter of opinion.
SimWarlock
De em Apr 2009

210 post(s)
February 29, 2012
boan000
I can tell your not married.
there is a #1 rule. You never get into an argument with a woman, call it what you will this has become an argument. you can never win one of them, they will keep it up until you die, then stand over your grave and say " I told you so "
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
February 29, 2012
LOL, that's right Sim, in fact, that's probably why I am not married... I never was very good at eating sour grapes.
Ricky78
De em Apr 2010

274 post(s)
March 1, 2012

I voted "NO" for Christine Young.
In general,I don`t like the models who look too young or too old,but there are exceptions.
For example,I don`t like Christine`s card ,but I like Tabatha`s card presented by SimWarlock.
Like SimWarlock said "It's all a matter of personal taste, if you like the card or you don't "

I don`t know what was in the past,because I wasn`t a VG2 member and I don`t know the VG2 cards.
Anyway,I searched on the internet to see what cards were released at that time and my opinion(but I could be wrong because I`m not sure) is there were more cards released with schoolgirls("teens")that look too young(although I`m sure all had 18 yo in the moment of shooting) than in the present VG site.
My opinion is that Totem proceed very well with released cards of VG Classic(regarding to the age and especially the look of the girls).
I didn`t see plenty released cards of VG Classic with girls who look too young and I agree with Totem.
It should be released also such cards with "teens" ,but not so plenty and cards with girls who look too old as well.

Let`s not forget something,guys!(I`m talking about the girls of VG or/and VG2, not real girls)
There are members who like girls between 18-20 yo who look too young(15-16 yo) and there are members who like girls more than 30 yo who look more mature,but what it`s important more in my opinion is that most of the members like girls between 22-30 yo(including me).
The best target to achieve more sales of the cards are the cards with girls between 22-30 yo.(not too young-18-20 yo and not too old-more than 30)

If I don`t mistake at the present VG,I didn`t see too much girls who look too young(Mirka is one example that I remembered and maybe a few more) or too old.

In my opinion,Totem proceed very well with cards released of VG Classic and VG cards(the target of the age of the girls)

@SimWarlock,regarding what you said ("there is a #1 rule. You never get into an argument with a woman, call it what you will this has become an argument. you can never win one of them, they will keep it up until you die, then stand over your grave and say " I told you so ") if every single man will follow your rule,than we will not get married never,LOL.
Anyway,if this happened to you MAYBE,this doesn`t mean ALL women are the same.

@boan000,you can`t live all your life alone.You need one woman and at one time you`ll get married:)
What will be this planet without women or without men,right?(women need men and men need women:D)

I`m sure that CV has nothing to do with "sabotage":)))) of releasing card of Christine.
I`m sure she can`t decide which cards to be released.Totem will decide based on your poll(my opinion)(53% YES ,47 % NO)
Like I said I voted "NO" for Christine`s card.Instead I would like to see Tabetha`s card released:)))))

Spacephantom
De em Nov 2008

768 post(s)
March 1, 2012
I just wish they would hurry up and release Aria Giovanni ;-))
boan000
De em Apr 2008

273 post(s)
March 1, 2012
I'd forgotten that Aria's classic card remains unreleased. I'm probably worrying over nothing. I hope so, at least.

Can we call a truce, CV? I did not intend to target you personally, you just happened to be the one who responded with an opposing perspective. I thought that was one thing that happened in online forums, differing POV's were discussed and debated.

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