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Lucky Scratch : questions and answers

  게시판 / iStripper에 관한 모든 것

celine
운영
Joined in Sep 2007

1966 글
December 13, 2019
we're here to help !
Alkasyn
Joined in Apr 2008

727 글
December 13, 2019
3 scratch cards and I get a 10 year old show worth 8.80 creds. Had enough of these gambling games for the next year, thanks.
Amelly
Joined in Jan 2008

384 글
December 13, 2019
J'ai décidé aujourd'hui (une fois n'est pas coutume), de jouer un ticket à gratter (c'est vendredi 13) et surprise, je gagne 1 crédit et une carte 😲
Soit c'est truqué, soit j'ai vraiment de la chance aujourd'hui 😀
Cet aprem je vais jouer au Super Loto, comme çà si je gagne, j'offrirai des chocolats à Celine 😂
Z22
Joined in Aug 2017

1166 글
December 13, 2019
3 scratch cards and I get a 10 year old show worth 8.80 creds. Had enough of these gambling games for the next year, thanks.

The only way to get rid of these games is to not play them.
73Tremor
Joined in Apr 2012

1 글
December 13, 2019
What's the name of the model on the scratch game
anigmarvo
Joined in Mar 2008

42 글
December 13, 2019
@73Tremor Belka is her name, unless it shows different models to each person, which I don't think is the case.
HansSachs
Joined in Mar 2016

989 글
December 13, 2019 (edited)
Maybe I have been just unlucky, but after some scratches I can tell that today odds looked to me far more unfavorable for users than they were on Black Friday week (when they instead looked to be not bad at all for users).
PascalsWager
Joined in Jan 2009

81 글
December 13, 2019
The only way to get rid of these games is to not play them.

Yes!
Alkasyn
Joined in Apr 2008

727 글
December 13, 2019
Maybe I have been just unlucky, but after some scratches I can tell that today odds looked to me far more unfavorable for users than they were on Black Friday week (when they instead looked to be not bad at all for users).

Ditto. I think that's usually the case and I forgot how much I didn't enjoy these kinds of games because the one on Black Friday was O.K.

The only way to get rid of these games is to not play them.

I know, no idea what went over me.
celine
운영
Joined in Sep 2007

1966 글
December 13, 2019
J'ai décidé aujourd'hui (une fois n'est pas coutume), de jouer un ticket à gratter (c'est vendredi 13) et surprise, je gagne 1 crédit et une carte 😲Soit c'est truqué, soit j'ai vraiment de la chance aujourd'hui 😀Cet aprem je vais jouer au Super Loto, comme çà si je gagne, j'offrirai des chocolats à Celine 😂

😛😛😛
TheEmu
Joined in Jul 2012

3309 글
December 13, 2019 (edited)
@HanScachs

Maybe I have been just unlucky,

Unless you have played hundreds of times any estimate of the odds will almost certainly be a poor approximation to the true odds. Even if you have played many times you may still be one of the unlucky (or lucky) people who end up in the the low (or high) tail of the distribution of winners and losers. People are, according to all the studies I have seen referenced, very poor judges of the outcomes of stochasical processes and it requires a proper mathematical analysis, or a lot of measurements, to determine the relative merits of two offers that are based on randomness.
Mover
Joined in May 2011

21 글
December 13, 2019
Unless you have played hundreds of times any estimate of the odds will almost certainly be a poor approximation to the true odds.

The Black Friday game was more attractive, because you did definitively win first a card and second a joker after a certain amount played.

In this week's event, I played 151 scratch games.
I did not win any cards which is probably because of having a rather complete collection.
I won approximately 9 times 50 credits, and 1 time 20 credits from the bonus box.
At times I was as low as 85% return on my gambled amount.
I stopped the game after the last win of 50 credits, and ended up with 95% return.

The game this week might be most attractive for members seeking to win special event cards, and for members on lower levels because they may win discounted cards. It is not really attractive for members with rather complete collections.
TheEmu
Joined in Jul 2012

3309 글
December 13, 2019 (edited)
@Mover - the numbers you quote seem to me, without actually doing the calculations, completely consistant with a "fair" game - i.e. one in which if you played very many games your wins and losses would tend to cancel out. I do not know if the game is "fair" in this sense or not - but your post tends to favour that hypothesis rather than be evidence agaist it. Actually I would not expect a completely fair game (though there is also a reasonable possibility that Totem have chosen to provide one) but rather one that slightly favours the "house" but it needs a lot more evidence to know one way or the other.
lukaszr
Joined in Dec 2007

722 글
December 13, 2019
Scratch game? No thank you, not this time.

Maybe I have been just unlucky, but after some scratches I can tell that today odds looked to me far more unfavorable for users than they were on Black Friday week (when they instead looked to be not bad at all for users).
Do you really think the chances of winning during Black Friday were greater? I think they are the same with every game. One day you have more luck, the other day you have less luck.
Mover
Joined in May 2011

21 글
December 13, 2019
Hi Emu, hi forum!

I primarily wanted share my experience rather than trying to judge it it is fair or not, I guess such judgement is very indiviual.
However, I now re-read the announcement:

Today is the last Friday 13th of 2019 and we want to make it a day of luck for you, this is why we have awaken our scratch cards one of your favorite and most advantageous promo :)

I would disagree. At least for members with rather complete collections, this promo is not "advantageous".
Can still be fun to play ))
TheEmu
Joined in Jul 2012

3309 글
December 13, 2019
@Mover - well for members with complete collections it is essentially impossible to make a promo of this kind be, on average, advantageous to the players unless it is disadvantageous to Totem - they would have to be effectively giving credits away. For those with far from complete collections this sort of poromotion can easily be simultaneously advantageous to both sides - the player can be given a more than "fair" chance of winning (though they may not win cards they want) while at the same Totem gain from, in effect, the player buying more than he or she otherwise would.
Mover
Joined in May 2011

21 글
December 13, 2019
@TheEmu

Agreed.

Totem could make it more attractive though, as they did for Black Friday. For example, option to win Joker cards if you already own all special event cards.

KillerMan89
Joined in Feb 2016

9 글
December 14, 2019
I played 107 scratch games, but I not win special event card. I get unnecessary old shows.

Goodbye totem.
upsux1
Joined in Nov 2008

7 글
December 14, 2019
359 Tickets

0 Special Event Cards

What exactly is the best way to get these?
upsux1
Joined in Nov 2008

7 글
December 14, 2019
^ Aye - best method to get a SEC, thanks!
orclover
Joined in Jun 2012

744 글
December 14, 2019
3 scratch cards and I get a 10 year old show worth 8.80 creds. Had enough of these gambling games for the next year, thanks.
The only way to get rid of these games is to not play them.

I can't understand why people ***** and then they go and play the game. Just don't play! Nobody cares if you only have 4123 cards and not 4128....the fact that you can spend 6k on dancing girls on a computer means your life must be pretty good, or at least have the potential to be good. Totem will milk this thing as long as they can, and they should...they aren't providing an inferior product as a result and the coding costs are minimal and as most skins and UI are being reused. Just stop playing and they will stop. Now if they only release one card a week and it is a special event card then a customer just has to move on and hope another company provides the same service. This happens with book series, video games, movie series, t.v series all the time...the company gets a taste of easy money and it is hard to go back to the struggle that produced the amazing product in the first place. THe consumer just moves on.
TheEmu
Joined in Jul 2012

3309 글
December 14, 2019 (edited)
I agree with @orclover. If you are "picky" about the cards you want then it ought to be obvious that this sort of event is not for you. They seem to be mainly aimed at those that just want an excuse to increase the size of their collection at a minimal cost (not a criticism, I was once one of that group of users)

Actually, these offers are one of the very few kinds that can be said to favour those of us with full or nearly full collections. If you already own all the possible cards that might be won then the free card is replaced with a 10 credit payback (or at least that has been the case with the previous few scratch card TGIFs) so, on average, it is cheaper for us to play these games than those with partial collections. This, again on average, reduces the cost we pay to win a joker card.
heap204
Joined in Jan 2013

1 글
December 16, 2019
Didn't see anyone ask it so... Who is the girl/show on the card?
HansSachs
Joined in Mar 2016

989 글
December 16, 2019
I think she is Belka.
stefnev1
중재자
Joined in Jul 2008

4604 글
December 16, 2019
Yes, she's the wonderful Belka 😍
GirlOnTop
Joined in May 2009

23 글
December 17, 2019
Even if you scratch 5 X-es on the outer ring, you still have to scratch the center circle as well, and funnily enough, the higher rewards, like 50+ credits or Special Event cards seem more common during the times you don't scratch enough hearts on the outer ring.
That isn't encouragement to try again. It doesn't give a sense of "Aww, I almost had it".
Instead, that feels like a big f-you towards the customer.

The addition of the small bonus credits from the bottom bar might compensate from a tiny bit of the losses, but it's really just a fraction. Maybe set it to double the reward if the outer ring doesn't give enough X-es, but I'd still be wary of this game. It's more profitable to follow the previews tab for special offers, in my opinion.

Overal, scratchgame is, and probably always will be, the worst TGIF offer of the set.
SetFuego
Joined in Mar 2008

730 글
December 17, 2019
"Groundhog Day"
Funny, with every special game, the same stuff is babbled again and again, again and again in a circle. 😆
"Groundhog Day"

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