The new kristina card only has 4 fully nude clips, and all of them are quick flashes. The card is marked as a full nudity card in the same category as all the amazing girls who show MUCH MUCH more including opening labia, shaking, splits, and rubbing. Totem has not created a distinction between light full nudity, and truly open leg nudity. Should there be a distinction?

The second option is supposed to say no, any flash counts as full nudity. But the poll gets cut off for some reason.

I don't understand........

Please explain how ass shaking has anything to do with full nudity

Not criticizing or looking to argue. I really just don't get it.


Also, the level rating is based on explicitness

Please explain what exactly you mean by "True Full Nudity".
It might be helpful



Edit:
I mean, the level rating is based on the highest level of explicitness present in the show
Even if just for a moment

I don't understand........

Please explain how ass shaking has anything to do with full nudity

Not criticizing or looking to argue. I really just don't get it.


Also, the level rating is based on explicitness

Please explain what exactly you mean by "True Full Nudity".
It might be helpful



Edit:
I mean, the level rating is based on the highest level of explicitness present in the show
Even if just for a moment

Rex called this distinction "no open leg" when he asked the community if we would buy cards of very hot girls who would not open their legs. Kristina falls into this category. Since Rex makes the distinction, is aware that we may disapprove, totem should make customers aware that cards do not contain open leg content. Back in 2013 there was a run of models who would not go "open leg", and their clips were only marked as high a "nudity". Kristina has 4 cards that are marked "fully nude", even though they are merely teases. I understand totem MAY consider these fully nude but IMHO only what is considered "open leg" should be considered fully nude. I just think totem should be a little bit more transparent. Mikki gets 15+fully nude clips in some of her cards for the same price as Kristina who get maybe 1 true full nudity clip, and only for a second. People should know the difference, whether they end up buying or not.

I don't understand........

Please explain how ass shaking has anything to do with full nudity

Not criticizing or looking to argue. I really just don't get it.


Also, the level rating is based on explicitness

Please explain what exactly you mean by "True Full Nudity".
It might be helpful



Edit:
I mean, the level rating is based on the highest level of explicitness present in the show
Even if just for a moment

Rex called this distinction "no open leg" when he asked the community if we would buy cards of very hot girls who would not open their legs. Kristina falls into this category. Since Rex makes the distinction, is aware that we may disapprove, totem should make customers aware that cards do not contain open leg content. Back in 2013 there was a run of models who would not go "open leg", and their clips were only marked as high a "nudity". Kristina has 4 cards that are marked "fully nude", even though they are merely teases. I understand totem MAY consider these fully nude but IMHO only what is considered "open leg" should be considered fully nude. I just think totem should be a little bit more transparent. Mikki gets 15+fully nude clips in some of her cards for the same price as Kristina who get maybe 1 true full nudity clip, and only for a second. Also consider this...Kristina, Dianna, and Marilyn are all coming up soon and according to their preview pics, they will not show open leg either. Totem brought in absolutely stunning girls but they need to communicate that these girls are not going to do open leg.

Interesting response

I haven't watched her show yet so I can't say if I agree that she does a "no open legs" show or not

You neglected to answer the first question...........

What does ass shaking have anything to do with full nudity ??

I am happy with the current rating system. It could be better with more levels or with more tags to distinguish matters but either of those would require far too much work in order to cover the existing cards.

What should be practical, because it only makes use of information that already exists for all cards, would be to make a summary of the clips available for a card before buying it. This summary would give the number of clips for each level of eroticism so that you could distinguish, for example, those cards that have many full nudity clips from those that have only a few. The summary could also include clip counts for each of the swing, cage, pole, table, glass etc. categorories. It coud even take the form of a table that showed for each clip category the number of clips at each erotic level.

These summaries should be accessable via the Featured, Girls Store and Previews tabs (and might also be available via the My Collection tab) but should only be displayed when requested by clicking on something or, perhaps by hovering over the card or girl's image.

There is no shyness in her photo shoot. I would for sure put her on the much lighter side of here's my pussy in the show, but it's there.

This comment section on Kristina goes to show one truism, people see an analyze in many ways and because of that it becomes exceedingly difficult to please every one. Another way of saying this is one persons trash is another persons treasure. I am on the other side of the issue in that when I joined Virtua Girl I did so for the models that fit my scheme of things that could perform. In the older cards there were quite a few that fit the basics of what I wanted. Thus I was happy with performance and did not need and still do not care how explicit the model is.Thus when a model like Kristina comes aboard to perform for iStripper/Virtua Girl I am thrilled and could care less how explicit she gets. I know from past forum comments that there are others that feel this way. In conclusion the clip ratings work for myself and since I am after performance they rarely mislead. Desk Babes and iStripperxxx are cards to purchase for the explicitness and I for one would become disenchanted with iStripper if cards became more explicit over performance.

I don't have a problem with Kristina's show...but it is distinctly less explicit than most fully nude shows. All I ask for is tranparency to know that the show is light nudity only. There is an argument that being too transparent will cut sales, people will be too choosy, but in this case I cannot justify buying any of the new sets of cards unless I am assured they have fully nude content. And for Hebesu, I brought up ass shaking, because that is a move that is distinctly "fully nude", and if a card is marked as such I expect at least open leg and hope for more. I read all reviews of girls and rarely do the reviews go in depth enough to reveal the true explicitness of a card. One last time, this isn't judgement on those who love a beautiful girl who just teases...and this isn't an argument for or against such girls on istripper. This is a call for more clarity when a girl is just teasing and when she is putting on a fully nude show. Just today totem lost out on $10 because I won't touch the new Marilyn line. She is really cute, and looks to be a great dancer, but I won't spend credits on a lightly nude card. And there is no evidence that she goes fully nude. I will have to do the same for 5 kristina cards, and 6 Dianna cards. That is close to $30 lost just on those 3 girls because of a lack of transparency.

I brought up ass shaking, because that is a move that is distinctly "fully nude"

Sorry but I'm calling bullshit on that because I completely disagree with you

By ass shaking I mean complete shaking(twerking) of a naked ass not just a wiggle, If that is why you disagree. I suppose you can remove those words if you would like from the original post. They have little bearing on the poll.

'Complete shaking of a naked ass' still does not qualify as a "Fully Nude Move"

Anyway, I don't delete comments or parts of a comment just because I disagree with it


So we disagree
No big deal

Not the first time and most definitely not the last

Moving on

orclover - you have stated

I brought up ass shaking, because that is a move that is distinctly "fully nude"

By ass shaking I mean complete shaking(twerking) of a naked ass not just a wiggle

In this you seem to be like Humpty Dumpty who said that words meant what he wanted them to mean irrespective of what everybody else understood by them. Ass shaking is not the same as twerking and neither imply nudity (by either the common usage of the term or by Totem's definition). Some of the best ass shaking to be seen is done fully clothed by belly dancers - they sometimes even twerk.

It is a pity that Totem's "Full Nudity" level is poorly, and misleadingly, named and I wish they would change it, but its far to late to change the definitions of the levels of eroticism or to introduce new more specific ones. If any such level splitting were to be done then in my opinion it would be better to split the XXX level into mild XXX, heavy XXX and possibly even reserve a level for extreme XXX. Not only would this, I think, be more useful it would be a more practical excercise as it would involve reclassifying far fewer cards and clips.

Poll is incomplete. ot needsa a 3rd option, "i dont care", just like i dont really care, i dont buy into ispripper for porn, theres sites for that no matter how much porn people want on istripper.

Wow, this forum is a *****, I can see why so few people post here even though thousands of people have access. I attempt to have a decent discussion about the product and multiple people argue with me on the semantics of two words that have almost no bearing on the discussion. Well the echo chamber just got smaller.

Orclover,

The problem with any query or discussion is that different people place different interpretations on the words and hence read different meanings into the whole question or topic being discussed.

So they then ask questions on your question in order to make sure they understand.

I don't read any disrespect into any of the responses above, but I do agree that some are challenging your perceived viewpoint which is only fair.

This show does not fit into the 'No Open Legs' category as you claim lover of orcs

When that experiment was done, the girls put alot of effort into covering up and we got no views of pussy

Kristina does not go to that extreme and we got more than just a few 'quick flashes' as you claim

Some people may refer to her as 'shy'. My take on her is 'playful'.

I get that you wanted the show to be more explicit than it was but you're posting misinformation

Hebasu, you are so right. I found the most explicit moment in the first kristina card. It is not a quick flash and it is obviously open leg. This card is definitely full nude.

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The 'Most' explicit moment ?
R U sure ?

I'm pretty sure her legs are open here in this one
Not what I consider 'no open legs'


Now, let's move on and see if Totem has any interest in adding more tags

i belive orclover want more clips with great pussy look

i belive orclover want more clips with great pussy look

Thanks for the pic. But it is a pic, not even a live shot of the card we pay for...here is what I consider a great "look".

PLEASE READ:

1. I am not being critical of the existance of a card with only 4 fully nude clips, where the model teases full nudity. I am ok with such a card existing.
2. I want to know how many fully nude clips exist at the very least, and at best how "explicit" that nudity is...
3. The pictures linked are what I consider "full nudity". Me, not anyone else. So that is what I am willing to pay for.
4. The card linked contains 13! fully nude clips...with the above type of nudity. That is a very different type of card than a Kristina card. Not better, not worse but different.
5. Here is the problem that totem should consider. Because of my experience with the first Kristina card, I will not buy the other 3-5 cards. And she is very hot and has a great personality. But my personal taste requires actual full nudity. It may be that her later cards are more explicit but I will not "test" to see by spending credits, and we all know the review won't tell us.