I miss the American girls. I'd be interested to know the breakdown, by nationality, of the current iStripper members. Anyone have an idea?

the Vegas Studio is closed. in 2017 we will have no more American girls.

@Spavelnvader I know that. That wasn't my question.

ok, was ***** of the word 'breakdown'. didn't heard that in this context.
what you mean with members? the girls? the people who owns an account?

@ckvghduser
Rex explaned exactly why they closed the studio.
Members cannot tell you more than the team.

btw. where's a breakdown?

I think he's asking what's the largest user base down to the fewest in terms of the country there in. I don't think any normal user here could answer this only a team member. And honestly I think they wouldn't either because it could start a country vs country debate.

1/16th Welsh. 1/16th Irish. The rest of my genome is English as far as I know. I've lived in Spain since 22nd of December 2000. I now consider myself part Spanish.

Now. Does that info gain you anything?

Girls are girls and we all love them and that's why we're here. It would be nice to have some thick European girls once in a while though :)

We should do a fundraiser to open up the Vegas studio again...

I can't sleep...having insomnia again @_@

I'd pay double for American girls/pornstars. Not saying they are better than European girls but as far as star power, they are defnitely top tier for obvious reasons. I'm a big fan of the most of the European girls that work with 21sextury and DDF Network. i.e. Eve Angel, Zafira, Sandy, Connie Carter, etc. But you have to realize, for most people, it's all about the NAME. We're all fans of someone and regardless of what they do or perform in we watch! There are a ton of cards I bought without even previewing just because of who the girl is. If you were to tell me you were releasing Alexis Texas, Rachel Starr, Sophie Dee, or Dani Daniels cards, I would pre order them if I could! Even if they stayed fully clothed the entire time and just stood there haha. Names matter.

I think a tiered cost system is our only hope to get really good performers or extremely hot girls on a regular basis. I don't blame totem because they are hiring "workers" from multiple countries with multiple GDPs and multiple cost of living situations. If I was a dancer from paris I would want four times what a dancer from Kiev wants because the GDP in Paris is 10x Ukraine, and it is so expensive to live in a world class city. The girls from Paris are some of the best on the site and so paying twice as much for them would probably be worth it...there would basically be three tiers. Platinum, Gold, and Silver cards,

Girls from Eastern Europe and Baltic States would be in the silver category and would 75% of current cost.
Girls from Spain, Italy, Czech Republic, Hungary would be in the Gold Category and cost 125% of current cost
Girls from America, France, Britain, Northern Europe would in the platinum category and cost 200% of current cost.

I think this is only way we are going to get a diversity of girls because the girls from richer countries just cannot afford to work on a Ukrainian salary.

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Talk about proposals for segregation and making potentially racist comments........

A girls nationality should determine what they earn and what we pay for their shows ???
Seriously ???

You seem to have quite a bit of pent up ***** Lover Of Orcs
Especially for Ukrainian girls

miss usa girls please bring them back in the future

why wouldnt you treat it the same as athletes? the better or more popular athletes get paid more and and therefore totem would charge more while newer girls or less known girls would get paid less and therefore totem would charge less. I do not think that a persons origin should matter just as it does not matter in sports. Just my two cents...

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Talk about proposals for segregation and making potentially racist comments........

A girls nationality should determine what they earn and what we pay for their shows ???
Seriously ???

You seem to have quite a bit of pent up ***** Lover Of Orcs
Especially for Ukrainian girls

Wat? If Totem wanted to hire an English teacher they would have to pay an American from LA a lot more than they would have to pay a University student from Kiev. It has nothing to do with ethnicity or race, but is has to do with standard of living, expectations, and the GDP of the nation of origin. Totem hires girls from Kiev because the average Ukrainian makes 4000 a year, the average Parisian over 40k. The average American makes even more...they had to pay the good American performers twice as much, and Rex stated this...so are you calling Rex racist because he paid American girls twice as much? I just want diversity, adn I don't want to totem to go broke so I proposed an idea, which has been floated...remember the Estonika card that cost more? Specialty cards should cost more and flying a girl in from America, or hiring a top performer from France is a specialty for a site that predominately shoots eastern european girls. And please stop with the moral arguments, you are on a forum for a porn site that requires you pay money to watch strippers and porn stars.

I'm sorry, but why someone's bad judgment should become a rule?
For _me_ most of the Ukrainian girls are worth much more than most of American girls - I enjoy their show more.
Should Totem start charging more for these cards based on my judgement?
Also: special cards were most of the time for iStripper stars, not baloon-size porn business names that simply didn't deliver anything special (or in some cases - nothing decent).

I do see why cost for studio could be different depending on country of residence (not the country of origin - that hardly makes any sense - you earn where you live, not where you were born). But seein we get fresh girl like Valeria from Switzerland... I don't really think that is cheap country to live in, do you?
Also: card is worth more when people are willing to pay more, not when the cost of production is higher. If you start charging more becasue production went bananas, people will simply ignore the cards. If you hire big names that smart people preview and decide not to buy - you are loosing money.

In my opinion the problem is not the country, nor nationality. The real problem is that recruitment is not able to hire diverse girls. I seriously don't see any value added on diversity front by US office. That's myth US folks are repeating for a while now, without any hard prove. When you filter out US Stars (I believe that's the only way to get a clue on who worked for US studio) - how many Asian girls do you see?

do not forget that this is not a hardcore pornsite. we do not talk about the porn business if we talk about IStripper.

for example I do not watch porn movies. Having sex is a natural biological behavior and watching porn movies is boring and the actors are nothing special to me at all. So I would never give a cent more. Names does not mattter. To me they are no 'stars' at all. But however, they are working in the adult business and there are a lot of men out there who buy it and who are so called 'fans'.

and that's the big difference between the US girls and the others here. If you select the us girls in the girl store only girls from porn business apppear. And some guys like to see this as a fan cult. They maybe would pay more but others dont.
Most of other girls here (not everyone of cause) are just photo models. Most of the girls use several nicknames to protect their privacy.
the funny thing besides is that mostly both sides cannot dance 😊

So Names means nothing here.

I bet there are a lot of folks out there who just like to see a beauty dance on the desktop. That what it's all about here. I dont care about names or countries, races or religions.

btw. why we never saw usually photo models from US?
Are they too expansive or is the social acceptance of a platform like these too different?
Does american photo models dont want to get known this way?

I totally quote @DuziKolo.

By the way, looks like east europe girls are much appreciated by most members, and their cards are selling better than many ones by "US pornstars who past their prime" did (the Team is already booking Niemira, Li Moon and Mila Azul for a second shoot).

So, I (and I think many other members too) would not like at all the idea to have higher prices - and even having to pay different ones according to models' nationality.

Eventually... we want more variety? Let's buy cards, helping Totem to stay in business. We want the US studio back? Let's buy cards, helping Totem to stay in business. Just my 2c...

Good conversation everybody. @Orclover, I like your ideas. Not sure what would work. All I know is that I would definitely pay more for an American girl if I was a fan of hers -- Jayden Cole, Natalia Starr, Jelena Jensen, Jenna Sativa, etc. I like the European girls too -- don't get me wrong. I just think that guys like variety. African American girls like Misty Stone or Ana Foxxx would be great on this site also.

Anyway, didn't mean to start a world war here. If we can't have American girls, talking about them is the next best thing I guess. Again, I would pay more. The reason I asked what the count of members by country is, is because if there are many more U.S. members that would pay for the American girls, that would be an incentive for Totem to get them. Another question I would be curious to know the answer to would be how well did the American girl cards do when they were offered?

... and by the way @91hebasu, male preference for certain kinds of girls does not equate to ***** or racism -- just hormones. Maybe one day, people will stop throwing those words around.

I honestly don't know what my preference is based on...and I get tired of saying "it depends on my mood"...but yeah it depends on my mood :P

@ckvghduser,
i'm curious about what the number of members from a country has to do with the number of sold cards????????????????????
i'm sure not only members from America buying cards from American Girls.
so what you're asking about is really pointless and illogical.

I totally quote @DuziKolo.

By the way, looks like east europe girls are much appreciated by most members, and their cards are selling better than many ones by "US pornstars who past their prime" did (the Team is already booking Niemira, Li Moon and Mila Azul for a second shoot).

So, I (and I think many other members too) would not like at all the idea to have higher prices - and even having to pay different ones according to models' nationality.

Eventually... we want more variety? Let's buy cards, helping Totem to stay in business. We want the US studio back? Let's buy cards, helping Totem to stay in business. Just my 2c...

1. I agree that euro girls are selling good enough because they continue to bring back girls, especially those who are cost efficient.
2. That doesn't mean they sell "better" than American girls. American girls had to be paid much more, and the lack of control over the LV studio combined with the pricing meant totem was losing money. My impression is that the American girls didn't sell twice as much as the eastern euro girl, and they needed to to make a profit. That is the challenge of bringing in girls with higher price expectations. Hence the idea of a tiered pricing system. 3. Totem has a ton of great older content right now, and doesn't really need to do much...they need to continue to market their product and grow in that area let new buyers fill up their collections. In the mean time they can provide average content at a cheap price for collectors, those that prefer something else can watch their 1000 card collections and wait for totem to expand again. This cycle doesn't seem illogical.
4. To be honest I got the impression that totem dried up their opportunities in LV, if oyu peruse american girls there aren't really a ton of great girls right now, that is why I got over my anger at the closing pretty fast, my frustration that Hungary, Latvia, Romania, Germany, France isn't represented more is still ***** hot.

Well, I still think it would be very wrong to tell a girl that she will be getting paid less than half of what they paid the girl that was in the studio the day before, because she's Ukrainian. As if she is somehow of less value, because of her nationality.

American girls had to be paid much more.

Ähmm, why exactly???
They just do the same work - nothing more or better.
no porn here - just a photo-shooting.