(I'm hoping that I can make a few negative observations without breaking the T&C.)

Since I am not an especially rich person (I do okay or I wouldn't be here at all, there are certainly many worse-off, but many better as well), I am very careful in my selection of VG purchases, even when they're going for as little as a dollar apiece. And as a result, I don't just buy every girl that looks pretty or has a kinky outfit; I can grab a couple of pictures off her profile and achieve the same effect for free. No, if I'm going to shell out an item equivalent to actual money, I don't just want her to look nice, I want a talented dancer.

And, bluntly, a few of these girls have proven to be below my standards. I will avoid naming them until I get clearance that it's okay, but if I have confirmation it isn't a T&C *****, I would like to say which dancers I feel could use some improvement, and steer other discriminating collectors like myself toward the truly exceptional talents instead.

I would steer clear of this and close the thread. Some people do not like these types of negative threads because they think all the girls are great and each girl does have her charms and unique features that may suit a particular person. There is a girl that you may dislike who another may love and so, no criticism, outside of the review area, would be wise. My two cents (I've done a similar thread, didn't work out too well, lol).

By the review area, do you mean the comment threads for the individual shows? Those only allow posting if you buy the girl, which I obviously won't do if I don't think she's that good a dancer. Ergo, while negative comments can get made (presumably by guys who get them as part of a subscription - and this is why I do ala carte, so I don't waste a dime on any dancer I don't like), most of the feedback is inevitably positive. Perhaps that's exactly the way Totem likes it.

I understand you want to be particular about the cards you buy because some cards aren't worth getting, but also some girls who are rated higher tend to have a see-one-card-and-you've-seen-them-all deal because they do not add to or vary from their usual routine. A lot of those reviews are not only positive but lacking in objective honesty in regards to the show. Go to almost any Nikky Case card and you get people drooling over her looks and her namesake, but not the actual show itself. There are negative reviews out there - trust me - for almost all the girls but here in this community, any negativity toward the girls will garner you angry posts that will ***** the moderators to shut the thread down.

If you want, you can pm me and I will give you some high and low points of any card you are thinking about buying. And if I don't have the card, I will redirect you to some other users who are pretty objective in their reviews as I am.

Or you can go to this website. Every scene from the selected cards is giving in details. http://www.civxl.net/

Severin, why should we close a thread when someone express his opinion?
As long as you guys didn't get into infight or making some personal attacks cause of different oppinions, everything is fine.

I confess, such a thread has a good chance to run in the risk that some guys get started to bang heads.

But as long as everyone respects each other (this includes also a kind of respect against the actresses) no one will censore cirticism.

So, my appeal (to all) - chose your words carefully ..... or, don't drink and write - and give it a chance ;)

@Pellucidar I agree wit Severin24 about asking for recommendations about some aspects you like the most. Either starting a thread or asking some members you trust. I do that now cause i dislike the dullness and lack of erotism on the newer releases, but a good buddy here give me some tips through PMs and i can avoid what i don't like.
About the criticism side, i understand your point, but toward who is directed the critic? The models can't improve cause all their shows are taped in a couple of sessions. Unless they return for more shows, the feedback is pointless, if ever taken into account. They either did great or not.

My opinion is that an ultimate guide for talented dancers is quite an impossible task. First, because it's a matter of personal taste, second, because this is an strippers site, not a dancers site, so the dancing it's an added value and subordinated to the strip performances, the model's looks and the sexy stuff.

Karina is a pretty good dancer. I recommend. ;)

this is one of the few times I tend to disagree with @Oquijan.

"The models can't improve cause all their shows are taped in a couple of sessions. Unless they return for more shows, the feedback is pointless, if ever taken into account. They either did great or not."

I think the team here @Totem could coach and prep the girls more as they take note of the criticisms layed out by their customers in a constructive manner. The girls seemed to have been encouraged to smile more which is a vast improvement over the early days plus they tend to look away from the camera a lot less.


Other criticisms I find to be helpful are being told that the girls despite attired in stockings in the photos don't tend to wear em in the actual shows displaying to some degree, the actual card is being misrepresented. Davon Kim has such a card and although, the critique is a roughly tinged one, I'm glad this card inconsistency was pointed out.

Theo, I agree with you. It is just that I had a similar thread and some people were quite...up in arms about it. I did not mean he had to close the thread literally. It is just that some people can get overly sensitive about these things and that is when the "head banging" starts. Since there are only a few good reviews for each card, a thread like this might come in handy with the new users.

I would like to see a thread such as this taken seriously as more cards are released. But as Oquijan said, if the girls do these cards in a couple of sessions, then it is understandable that they may slip up here or there.

@raymondo64 - Oh, how I wish that could happen!

@raymondo64. That's totally true, and that was part of my argument when i wondered to whom should be the criticism appointed. The only ones that can react to the critics are the makers, not the girls. It's common that many people comment things about a girl like "X, please us and dance better!", as if the girl was taped for her next show between releases and she could act on the comments and modify something. That doesn't happens like that. That's why i said that if she did great, good, if not, there's nothing to do about it with that particular girl, unless she is hired for new shows.

All the comments about the girls regarding to performance, explicitness, outfits, make-up, hairdos, etc, should be directed to and adressed by Totem, IMHO. They take all the decisions about their product and deliver what they want or can.

@Severin24, right on !!! Sometimes it seems like the user critiques fall on deaf ears when they could easily be rectified ;(

@Oquijan Good job of expounding on your previous points. Could not agree more ;) I browse this site to see if any cards are worth purchasing from the few objective reviewers I trust and for those like yourself and others who envision a higher caliber product and are not afraid to point out the attributes where the team here tends to seem somewhat at times to take a lackadaisical approach to a certain plethora of things ;)

Well, if we go with Oquijan's point and direct criticism at Totem, then the question is why does Totem overlook the most common problems in the final product with the worst being: conversations while performing (see Axelle Parker), looking off camera, ignoring the camera completely (see Natali Blond), explicit fading, stopping in the middle of a show for directions, constrictive clothing that limits movement (see Eufrat's demonia), platform shoes which limit some girls movement, keeping shoes on during nudity shows, awful makeup jobs, using the same clothes more than once, lack of variety in moves (which tends to make themes pointless if the routine is the same), compulsory use of the pole despite some girls tend to ignore it, stupid props (get rid of that ***** bear), lack of good themes, etc.

Given the number of years Totem have been around, I doubt production will ever get better so that is why I say it depends on the girls themselves to make the show at least somewhat memorable.

I shall have to do a critique, I find it unfortunate difference of color between some shows and photos. but I'm used to it.

On the girl's end, I would like to see more suggestive actions like taking off underwear when wearing a dress. My favorite card is still Monica Scott's School Ball (best card EVER) and it is not even her most explicit card, but she does things in that sorta make you think she's saying "wink wink". For me, subtleness would make the non-nudity clips better.

I'd like to see a bit of lightheartedness, some fun during the non-nudity clips.

As for smiling, Liliane has proved you don't need to smile if you are good at what you are doing during shows. Lorena looks like she going to crack a smile every second - can't keep a straight face for nothing. I love it though.

Of course, the nudity and explicit clips should be live up to their terms. I still find it strange that a company that emphasizes soft-core standards goes out of their way to make another site that do away with said standards but whatever.

If anyone else has any suggestions, then please speak your mind.

I noticed in Lucynova's lavender show the outfit is supposed to be bright purple, in the actual show it was dark pink due to the lighting, at first I thought it was my monitor's color settings but compared to the other outfits, Pink and purple are the only two colors that are not right. maybe it's the format, lighting or whatever, hopefully they can improve the color intensity to show their "true colors" (lol) like they look in the photos.

@raymondo64 "the team here tends to seem somewhat at times to take a lackadaisical approach to a certain plethora of things". Lol. Very funny! ;)

@Severin24. Well, as raymondo64 pointed before, some of this things have been corrected as the time passed by. It's not usual now seeing girls missing the focus on the camera and it's been a while since i watched someone talking or stopping to wait for directions during the show.

About the rest of your points, i agree, many things have been overlooked for a while and some are relatively new, like the most ***** and bad placed fade outs that are starting to become, more than annoying, outright offensive. IMHO.

For the last line of your other post, after so many years doing the strip thing, repetition and lack of imagination is something you can expect. Renewing the project would take a very humble approach to the suggestions.

Just an opinion about the girls and their terms. You don't pay people to do what they want. ;)

I think some of you are missing the point.
User critiques are more for the benefit of prospective buyers than they are for Totem's self improvement. You do have to be careful what you say, though. You will get flamed, if you criticize a popular Girl. I even got banned for awhile, for criticizing Aria Giovanni.

Read all the reviews and comment threads you can find, on a girl, before you spend your valuable tickets, and make a "wish list". When this one-ticket special came on, I was ready. I also look at the "favorites" page, of the profiles, of members whose opinions I trust. Look at mine, and you will see what I like.

Most of the Girls here can't dance or act and have no idea what a good striptease really is. They just mechanically take off their clothes, shake their booties and touch themselves vulgarly. They depend on their good looks too much. There are a few, though, who really are fun to watch. Shabba is my best example.

You do have to be caref

The worst thing is the ratings system and it is that which needs changing more than anything else, you should only get a vote if you have bought the card.

Regarding the girls, we all have our own preferences.

My ideal is an attractive slim but shapely girl such as Sandra H, Viki etc., the worst I've got is an overweight Yank closely followed by a lardy Czech, but that's just my opinion and it is obviously not shared by everyone.

If we all liked the same type of women the fortunate few would have us all chasing them and the mediocre masses would be completely ignored, not a great recipe for the continuance of the human race.

On the whole I think Totel do a reasonable job in trying to cater for everybody's tastes.

HAVE I BEEN CENSORED?

My last paragraph (above) said:
"You do have to be careful, when you criticize a popular model. You will get flamed. I even got banned for awhile, for criticizing Aria Giovanni."

NO, You're revealing revelation still exists in all its glory beneath the piccy !!!
You obviously hit the wrong key, and it transferred your post to the beginning !!
Happens all the time to me, and haven't discovered exactly which key is the culprit !!!

Ooops!

As Rosanna Rosanadana used to say: "Never Mind."

If any of you ever saw film of *****Rose Lee, you would understand what good striptease really is.

Natalie Wood, now there was a beautiful woman!

@MUFFDIVR

No, you did NOT get banned for constructive criticism, you got banned for the statement you made "Aria is a fat cow"
That would not be constructive in anyone's book, it would be a blatant insult.
I don't want to see any name calling or ***** of any kind in any of the threads anymore, if I do, they will be dealt with.

All logical minds know that you can be constructive without the use of name calling and flat out ***** or turning things into a ***** match.
Keep it clean and all will be fine, I assure you.

Constructive criticism is fine, name calling and ***** ARE NOT !!

Keep it clean and have fun

Aye Captain !!!

It did amuse me that thegraybeard as a moderator felt able to quote MUFFDIVR in saying "Aria is a fat cow" which whilst I basically agree with the sentiment expressed, is nevertheless a bit over the top.

Dear BAfsb

It is one thing to quote as a moderator what was said to cause a banning and completely another to blatantly insult someone.
I will tell you that I keep records of offending posts and pics posted by members so when they ask ,as they always do, 'why did I get banned' I have all the info right there in their own words to show them.
Now as far as your amusement, when someone needs a reminder of why they got banned and is telling people they got banned for criticism of the shows, I have every right to show them and the others just why the banning took place. If you don't like the way I do things then, oh well, I don't know what to tell you other than keep your own nose clean.

That's it, have a nice day and again I say, keep it clean.

I am gratified to see that we've agreed constructive criticism is okay. I shall attempt to practice it. Here are some shows I've seen that I had mixed feelings (at best) about:

1. Jennifer Max, "Firecracker". Now I've seen lots of people say they like for a girl to smile, and I'll agree that this is often a good thing. But like anything, it can be overdone. JM spends almost the entirety of this show making huge, exagerrated displays of delight, as if she's constantly astounded to discover that she's a pretty girl in a scanty red dress; it makes her seem rather brainless and majorly cuts down on the seduction factor of a red-dress show. She is currently on my "unwish list" until I see a dance in which she displays a more seasoned attitude.

2. Lucie T, "Copacabana". Someone mentioned the idea of "lightheartedness"; I'd like to vote against that. This clip is an example; my first look at Lucie, I wanted her for her pale body and red hair, but she did this routine of pretending to spray herself with suntan lotion and then rolling her eyes, it was anything but sexy. She was lots of fun when she actually danced, it's just that only 2 of the 3 freebie clips of her involved dancing. I'm not saying that the girls have to stay on the pole at all times, but I'd prefer not to see comedy skits. When I turn the VirtuaGirl on, it's because I want the VirtuaGirl to turn me on, not make me giggle at her antics.

3. Melissa. When I first signed up on the program, Melissa was tied with Morgaine as one of my favorite girls because of her pretty face and various imaginative outfits displayed to perfection on the card image. She has since become my greatest disappointment. When she dances, she does this kind of swishy bouncy motion while half-crouching down on her legs, as if she's boneless and flapping in an invisible breeze; on the "Whipped Cream" show I assumed it was intentional, that she was doing this move to try to suggest the titular substance by being light and airy in her movements. It didn't really impress me, but I could get into the roleplaying aspect of it. However it turns out she does the same thing in pretty much all of her trailers, and I got tired of it fast. With the seductiveness implied in the card photos for shows like "White Swan" and "Little Poem", I was disappointed to see her acting so thoroughly un-sultry. She is now a "photo girl", not a "dance girl", to me.