Has consideration been given to selling Joker cards in the store? I would suggest 50 credits before the membership discount is added on.

@mitchell

Ask yourself how much do you think that people currently pay to get a Joker? My impression is that on average it is a lot more than your suggestion of 50 credits. Then ask why would Totem choose to offer them for less than what we apparently will, and do, choose to pay? If it were your business would you willingly do so?

Has consideration been given to selling Joker cards in the store? I would suggest 50 credits before the membership discount is added on.

@mitchell

Yes it has several times before. But why would @Totem sell Jokers for 50 credits when they can get hundreds of credits from players thru the Slot Machine ? Totem gets extra income from members playing the Slot Machine trying to get Jokers.

But to sell Jokers in the store, how does 500 credits per Joker sound ? Would that be acceptable to you ?

Has consideration been given to selling Joker cards in the store? I would suggest 50 credits before the membership discount is added on.

@mitchell - in your example, a triple-diamond member would end up paying around 27 credits for a Joker - which is barely two credits more than the base price of a standard card.

Anybody who has won a Joker will tell you that on average it costs considerably more - well into three figures. So Totem are unlikely, as @TheEmu says, to price low and cut off a significant revenue stream.

Obtaining Joker-cards seems to have become lately less common than what it used to be earlier this year. I don't have any facts to back up this statement, but I had at one point 4 Joker cards and I can't remember having spent all that many credits for getting them.

Now it has been several months that one hasn't been able to win any Joker cards at all in any TGIF games. This week is an exception.

I would possibly buy a few Joker cards for 50 credits per card, or maybe even 100 credits per card. But for me to spend one Joker card on a future SEC release, the release should be of a model who is absolutely one of my very favourites, or of a model, who I find very desireable and who doesn't have any regular cards to purchase.

Hmm you all are right. Well what about offering A Joker as a reward for purchasing the 500 credit package. This month alone I have bought 2 of those plus 2 of the 250 credit packs. And still I have zero jokers. And there is still a week to go. I will likely buy another 500 pack would be great if a dev sees this and considers giving Jokers to members who buy The 500 pack. Or whatever number they decide and strikes a balance for them.

I finally got a joker after about 1200 credits run through the slot machine! The first one I've ever got! Since Belka is on the achievement I traded it for Belka's SEC! LMAO! Now why in the world would Totem sell them outright when they have suckers like me paying for all the credits to get one???😂😳😱

I finally got a joker after about 1200 credits run through the slot machine! The first one I've ever got! Since Belka is on the achievement I traded it for Belka's SEC! LMAO! Now why in the world would Totem sell them outright when they have suckers like me paying for all the credits to get one???😂😳😱

Exactly, it is the people who participate in these games and agree to be drained of their credits, who encourage Totem to continue in this direction.

You are absolutely right, and that is a shame.


Exactement, ce sont les personnes qui participent à ces jeux et acceptent de se faire vider de leurs crédits, qui encouragent Totem à continuer dans cette voie.

Vous avez entièrement raison, et c'est dommage.

I think chance is more fun than out right purchase. If it was available for purchase, the price would be much higher than 50 credits. As @JayZ971 suggested, the price would probably be 500 credits. This time around, my two Jokers cost net 264 and net 263 each. Last time the Joker slot was available, I also won two Jokers, net 263 and net 655! I thought 655 was crazy, but @StrangWays spent 1200 credits to win 1 Joker. Wow!

1200 credits to win 1 Joker. It seems to me that it is a fun that leaves a very bitter taste. You can not find ?

Because when it comes to luck in games of chance, the probability of losing is greater than the probability of winning.


1200 crédits pour gagner 1 Joker. Il me semble que c'est un amusement qui laisse un goût très amer. Vous ne trouvez pas ?

Car lorsqu'il est question de chance dans les jeux de hasard, la probabilité d'être perdant est plus grande, que la probabilité de gagner.

C'est un casino, beaucoup de perdants, quelques chanceux et un grand gagnant le casino lui-même!
It's a casino, a lot of losers, a lucky few and a big winner the casino itself!

I did a little accounting exercise here, because the amount of money is more telling than the number of credits.

Let's say I take the current offer of 2x500 credits at $49.99, which also gives me 200 bonus credits. If I look at it in terms of dollars, that works out to 1200 credits at a cost of $99.98.

This represents for me with the exchange rate of 1.3656, an amount of approximately $ 136.53 CAN Canadian dollars to obtain the 1200 credits at a cost of 99.98 USD US dollars, and this as of September 22, 2020.

In this case, let's not forget that I had the 200 bonus credits, which is not usually the case and would have cost me even more to get the Joker card at this cost.

So in this example, 1 wild card costing 1200 credits (with an included bonus of 200 credits) would have cost me $136.53 for 1000 credits, and more without the 200 free credits.

For my part, I much prefer to do without a card at this cost.

Hence why I refuse to participate in games of chance, in the hope of obtaining this kind of card, to exchange them for a SEC card.




J'ai fait un petit exercise comptable ici, car le montant d'argent est plus parlant que le nombre de crédits.

Disons que je prend l'offre actuelle de 2x500 crédits à $49,99, qui me donne en plus 200 crédits en bonus. Si je regarde en terme de dollars, cela représente 1200 crédits au coût de $99,98.

Cela représente pour moi avec le taux de change de 1,3656, un montant d'environ $136,53 CAN dollars canadien pour obtenir les 1200 crédits au coût de 99,98 USD dollars américains, et ce en date du 22 septembre 2020.

Dans ce cas n'oublions pas que j'avais les 200 crédits en bonus, ce qui n'est pas le cas habituellement et qui m'aurait coûté encore plus cher pour obtenir la carte Joker à ce coût.

Donc dans l'exemple présent, 1 carte joker au coût de 1200 crédits (avec un bonus inclus de 200 crédits) m'aurait coûté $136,53 pour 1000 crédits, et plus cher sans le 200 crédits gratuits.

Pour ma part, je préfèrement de beaucoup me passer d'une carte à ce coût.

De là pourquoi je me refuse à participer aux jeux de hasard, dans l'espoir d'obtenir ce genre de carte, pour les échanger contre une carte SEC.

@7171al71,

A picture is worth a thousand words.

In French I would say without a bad pun, that a picture is worth a thousand evils. (But it doesn't work in English). 😄


@7171al71,

Une image vaut mille mots.

En français je dirais sans mauvais jeu de mots, qu'une image vaut mille maux. (Mais ça ne fonctionne pas en anglais). 😄

1200 credits to win 1 Joker. It seems to me that it is a fun that leaves a very bitter taste. You can not find ?

Because when it comes to luck in games of chance, the probability of losing is greater than the probability of winning.

I say about 1200 credits but the net was probably closer to 800 with the remainder coming from 2-star & 3-star draws. I also got a couple of 100% off rolls as well which made the cards free. So it wasn't a total wash!

@7171al71 👍👌😀

Of course I got the Cara Mell SEC too!

1200 credits to win 1 Joker. It seems to me that it is a fun that leaves a very bitter taste. You can not find ?

Because when it comes to luck in games of chance, the probability of losing is greater than the probability of winning.

I say about 1200 credits but the net was probably closer to 800 with the remainder coming from 2-star & 3-star draws. I also got a couple of 100% off rolls as well which made the cards free. So it wasn't a total wash!

And you find that 800 credits for a card is a godsend? Do you count how that represents in sums of money for you, for a card?

Especially knowing that this encourages Totem to continue flooding us with SEC cards, to better make us spend our credits for their benefit.

If you think it's a bargain, it's your choice, but not mine.

I just regret that this kind of choice just contributes to making istripper a sort of casino now, which it was not in the past.

And that this affects customers like me, who do not want this kind of conversion by depriving us of cards that are now obtainable only through games.


Et vous trouvez que 800 crédits pour une carte est une aubaine ? Avez-vous comptez comment cela représente en sommes d'argent pour vous, pour une carte ?

Surtout en sachant que cela encourage Totem à continuer à nous inonder de cartes SEC, pour mieux nous faire dépenser nos crédits à leur profit.

Si vous trouvez que c'est une aubaine, c'est votre choix, mais pas le mien.

Je déplore juste que ce genre de choix contribue justement à faire maintenant de istripper une sorte de casino, ce qu'il n'était pas par le passé.

Et que cela affecte les clients comme moi, qui ne souhaitent pas ce genre de conversion en nous privant de cartes qui sont maintenant obtenables seulement par les jeux.

1200 credits to win 1 Joker. It seems to me that it is a fun that leaves a very bitter taste. You can not find ?

Because when it comes to luck in games of chance, the probability of losing is greater than the probability of winning.

I say about 1200 credits but the net was probably closer to 800 with the remainder coming from 2-star & 3-star draws. I also got a couple of 100% off rolls as well which made the cards free. So it wasn't a total wash!
And you find that 800 credits for a card is a godsend? Do you count how that represents in sums of money for you, for a card?

Especially knowing that this encourages Totem to continue flooding us with SEC cards, to better make us spend our credits for their benefit.

If you think it's a bargain, it's your choice, but not mine.

I just regret that this kind of choice just contributes to making istripper a sort of casino now, which it was not in the past.

And that this affects customers like me, who do not want this kind of conversion by depriving us of cards that are now obtainable only through games.


Et vous trouvez que 800 crédits pour une carte est une aubaine ? Avez-vous comptez comment cela représente en sommes d'argent pour vous, pour une carte ?

Surtout en sachant que cela encourage Totem à continuer à nous inonder de cartes SEC, pour mieux nous faire dépenser nos crédits à leur profit.

Si vous trouvez que c'est une aubaine, c'est votre choix, mais pas le mien.

Je déplore juste que ce genre de choix contribue justement à faire maintenant de istripper une sorte de casino, ce qu'il n'était pas par le passé.

Et que cela affecte les clients comme moi, qui ne souhaitent pas ce genre de conversion en nous privant de cartes qui sont maintenant obtenables seulement par les jeux.

Well, the user you're referring to said himself that there's no reason the company will stop with this kind of behaviour if there are people happy to pay such prices. As long as 80 euro for one card is an acceptable price for enough users, you'll be seeing these games again and again.

Même 1Sec et un Joker si je comprend bien pour 800 Cr (400/carte) cela reste important 😪

People should watch more what it costs them in money than in credits, because not all pay the same price with the exchange rates for their credits, depending on the country where they stay.

In some countries where money is less valuable, a credit can be very expensive compared to another country.

Me here in Canada, my money is much cheaper than the Euro and American money.

Once converted into US money, I am a huge loser.


Il faudrait que les gens regardent plus ce que cela leur coûte en argent qu'en crédits, car tous ne paient pas le même prix avec les taux de change pour leur crédits, tout dépendant du pays où ils restent.

Dans certains pays où l'argent à moins de valeur, un crédit peut coûter très cher, comparativement à un autre pays.

Moi ici au Canada, mon argent vaut beaucoup moins cher que l'Euro et l'argent américain.

Une fois convertit en argent américain, je suis très perdant.

Here is the result of half an hour of playing the slot machine:

306 credits lost, 1 unwanted card (Cara Mell - Cara Rules the World) and 1 Joker.

I wanted to try playing for 1st time. But it will be the last.
Too much waste of credits for a Joker and an unwanted card.

And you find that 800 credits for a card is a godsend? Do you count how that represents in sums of money for you, for a card?

Especially knowing that this encourages Totem to continue flooding us with SEC cards, to better make us spend our credits for their benefit.

@ComteDracula, I didn't say that spending 800 credits was a godsend! Hell no! But you're right about the "casino" mentality! I avoid casinos like the plague because I know I'm gonna lose! LOL! But when I'm rolling in the slot machine after so many rolls and have 3 letters of the JOKER it encourages even more and more spins to get the final 2! And I'm probably not a typical example. I only meant that with all the credits I used I did have a somewhat favorable outcome. Was it worth it? Probably not. But I got an achievement, 2 SEC cards and about 12 free cards. I don't regret it although I'll won't EVER do that again!

@StrangeWays, You hit the right spot of the matter. Those who have done so have been left with a bad taste. I'd rather be told up front that the SEC card is worth 100USD, I decide whether to buy or not. But that the ¨Make up ¨ that by divine work, the alignment of the stars and the factor ¨lucky ¨ is going to cost me less than 50 USD, doesn't seem right to me.
Games of chance are a scourge, they are designed so that 99% of the people lose. I will be the blessed of God that I will be in the 1%? - I tried it once to prove it...and...divine grace I think it cost me 60 USD...never again!!!!
Who has ever had a joker spend less than 50 USD?
If someone earns 4,000 USD so that the expenditure is marginal and they give themselves the whim...I congratulate them and applaud them.
But if someone earns 1,000 USD and spends 10% of his income...please go to a therapist.
This issue has always divided this community and will continue to do so...there is no worse blind person who does not want to see

@StrangeWays, You hit the right spot of the matter. Those who have done so have been left with a bad taste. I'd rather be told up front that the SEC card is worth 100USD, I decide whether to buy or not. But that the ¨Make up ¨ that by divine work, the alignment of the stars and the factor ¨lucky ¨ is going to cost me less than 50 USD, doesn't seem right to me.
Games of chance are a scourge, they are designed so that 99% of the people lose. I will be the blessed of God that I will be in the 1%? - I tried it once to prove it...and...divine grace I think it cost me 60 USD...never again!!!!
Who has ever had a joker spend less than 50 USD?
If someone earns 4,000 USD so that the expenditure is marginal and they give themselves the whim...I congratulate them and applaud them.
But if someone earns 1,000 USD and spends 10% of his income...please go to a therapist.
This issue has always divided this community and will continue to do so...there is no worse blind person who does not want to see

@7171al71,

I fully agree with you that gambling is a bane in general and more specifically here on iStripper. That they are only dividing the people here, who apart from this ***** factor are generally still a nice and pleasant bunch of people.

I regret that people continue to fall into the trap of these games, and at worst continue to play them by perpetuating this practice, going so far as to try to prove to us that they find advantages in them.

If these people would generally count all their gains and all their losses, the majority would result in a much greater loss than gain.

The big winners have always been the organizers of these games of chance, otherwise they simply wouldn't exist.

The Joker card was created to laugh at us, like the real Joker does against Batman.

And this, while we denounced the existence of SEC cards and the impossibility of buying them.

The ridiculous part is that people have come to make a collection of it. Maybe this proves that deep down they really like to be laughed at.



@7171al71,

Je suis entièrement d'accord avec vous pour dire que les jeux de hasard sont un fléau en général et plus particulièrement ici sur iStripper. Qu'ils ne font que divisé les gens ici, qui en dehors de ce facteur détestable, reste en général un groupe de personnes gentilles et agréables.

Je déplore que des gens continuent à tomber dans le piège de ces jeux, et au pire continuent à y jouer en perpétuant cette pratique, allant jusqu'à essayer de nous prouver qu'ils y trouvent des avantages.

Si ces personnes feraient en général le décompte de tout leurs gains et de toutes leurs pertes, il en résulteraient en majorité beaucoup plus de perte que de gain.

Les grands gagnants ont toujours été les organisateurs de ces jeux de hasard, sinon ils n'existeraient tout simplement pas.

La carte Joker a été créer pour rire de nous, comme le fait le vrai Joker face à Batman.

Et ce, alors que nous dénoncions l'existence des cartes SEC et l'impossibilité de les acheter.

Le plus ridicule est que des gens en sont venus à en faire une collection. Peut-être cela prouvent-il qu'au fond elles aiment vraiment faire rire d'elles.

@Gekar45...You're sticking your tongue out at me with Satcy Cruz's letter?.... that's not done...bad girl....😂

@ComteDracula, people are free to spend their money as they see fit, I'm not against that. But don't let them ***** about what they lost later. The structure and mechanics of the SEC is what gives me allergy. It could be otherwise. Many users have given good ideas.

I understand your position, you are a collector and this frustrates you like many others...it changes the focus, it is healthier...This is not a collection product it is entertainment.

@ComteDracula, people are free to spend their money as they see fit, I'm not against that. But don't let them ***** about what they lost later. The structure and mechanics of the SEC is what gives me allergy. It could be otherwise. Many users have given good ideas.

I understand your position, you are a collector and this frustrates you like many others...it changes the focus, it is healthier...This is not a collection product it is entertainment.

The problem is when the entertainment becomes frustration, it is a lot less entertaining.

Le problème est lorsque le divertissement devient frustration, cela est beaucoup moins divertissant.