Very well put. I've long said, as members here, we are asked to treat each other with respect and we should all be treated equal. Throwing up cards that some can own and some cannot highlights those... barriers and classes. Some here like to feel powerful and this system gives them the right tool...

@number6

Sorry for my language

Ok potrei comprare la prevendita del mese di luglio ed avere Red Fox
ma non ho Ginebra Bellucci e purtroppo non ho Alyssia Kent.

Perché non sono riuscito a completare tutti gli acquisti proposti per avere le carte
speciali rilasciate al momento.
Ma ho fatto presente che se sono al lavoro, non posso essere davanti al computer !!!

Poi nelle varie promozioni - Slot Machine e Scratch Card - non sono stato fortunato nel pescare le carte mancanti,
La Slot Machine ultimamente mi ha dato solo carte che non volevo comprare e gettoni solo 1 alla volta.
Morale ho buttato crediti e basta.
Meglio comprare ciò che piace.

Mi piace la promozione - compri quattro carte e la quarta viene rimborsata- questa è ottima , secondo me

I actually wasn't planning to comment on the whole July pre-sale/Black Fox thing because I tend to simply ignore those promotions I perceive to be one-sided, but I felt compelled to respond to your post to offer a different perspective.

I know some might not be able to afford it or ok to be fair there are a few cards I wish I never got but at the end of the day isn't getting ALL the cards the point of being here on iStripper?

At least for me, no, that is not the point of being on iStripper. I have no desire to collect all the cards. What I do have a desire for, however, is to collect cards of models I find attractive, and that includes Red Fox. I'm on iStripper because I enjoy the tease of watching those women I am attracted to perform erotic shows in which they share their sexy outfits, sensual moves, and beautiful bodies. There is no benefit to me in spending my money on cards I will never use. I realized this the hard way when I participated in the "Mystery Envelope" during Crazy Week. I'm relatively new to iStripper and hadn't experienced this promotion, so I participated out of curiosity. I ended up with three cards I liked but would normally have much further down my wishlist, two cards I immediately deleted because one had such poor video quality and the other was of a model I don't enjoy, and a dud scratch card. Overall, it was a net credit loss: At the time, cards cost me 20 credits each, so I ended up spending roughly 24 credits each for the three cards I kept.

I know that totem has been trying different ways to keep you here or spending more credits then you might want to but that is business at it's finest.

Taking a card like Black Fox that I would typically buy on its own (and probably even pay a premium price to have) because it's a model I like and requiring me to purchase 700-credits-plus worth of cards for dozens of other models I may or may not enjoy -- without even allowing me the opportunity to preview who those models are -- is not "business at its finest" in my opinion. That's a one-sided deal. Which is fine; Totem can offer whatever deal they want. And I can decide not to pay for that deal. In fact, I'm due to buy more credits, and when I found out the Black Fox card was coming, I was primed to reload. I ended up deciding against purchasing more credits when I found out the conditions required to purchase the card.

I guess what I am trying to say is that if you get enjoyment out of this product then no matter what they do to increase profits you should just know that in the end your helping these amazing women do something they love for a career and you as a person get to enjoy watching them perform in the comfort of your home or office.

I have no problem with a company trying to maximize profits. But in the same vein that Totem is trying to maximize profits and the models are trying to maximize their career success, I'm trying to maximize my return and the enjoyment I derive from the product I have chosen to spend my hard-earned money on.

There's no reason a promotion can't be mutually beneficial for all parties. Heck, if Totem would like me to spend more credits, I'll spill the secret to getting me to spend more credits right now: allow me to choose the cards I want to purchase and let me purchase them at a fair price point.

But even if Totem insists on bulk-package promotions, maybe include a little bit more incentive for me to participate, like allowing the buyer to preview what comes in that bulk package instead of asking them to buy blindly or having the cards in the bulk package be selected randomly from cards marked on a user's wishlist. For example, I currently have a wishlist of close to 300 cards and growing; I would have much preferred getting five random cards from that list in the Mystery Envelope I mentioned earlier as opposed to the completely blind cards I did receive. And it would make me much more inclined to reload credits more often to participate in those kinds of promotions in the future.

@PointZero

I notice a lot of people seem to be unhappy with this event but I have to say isn't being a collector what everybody on here wants to be ?

If I'm part of everyone, then the answer is NO. I buy the cards I think I will enjoy watching. At present I buy about half of the cards when they come out. I'm very happy with this.

@Dorsai6 thanks for your post, I feel the same and I think I am only buying around 1/3 of the released cards.

@JackInhofe my apology, I didn't see your excellent post, that I totally agree with. Thanks to you, too, and well said.

I badly want this promo card, but no way im paying so much for it without any heads up to what im buying into. Sucks, cause I know ill spend big on scratchies to get this card

What the offer amounts to is somewhat like a ***** trial subscription at full cost.

To get a known number of members guaranteeing payment in advance there needs to be trust in the content offered. I used to buy far more cards than i do now & to get me to subscribe monthly, @Team would need to separate out their month's content into something i would be happy to receive. Something like idancer without any clothes or toys at all involved in the performance from Go to Whoa. Its not stripping, however as a separate product of known content it could be a novel enough & attractive proposition for both the old & new mainstream users to sign up to.

I essentially agree with what @EverthangForever said - with one small change, I would replace "*****" with "optional".

@TheEmu, yes '*****' was the wrong word.. I meant 'content which is largely unknown' ahead, like in the very early days of VG subscription.

I very much liked the old VGHD subscriptions, which in many ways resembled the current monthly pre-purchase offer (and even more closely the previous one that included a discount). So the evidence suggests that "pig in a poke" offers (as a previous poster caled them) would be popular as long as they were accompanied by a small discount - despite several posters here being most adamant about only buying cards that they individually choose it seems that many others take a very different view as long as there is some small inducement to do so, This week's special offer will show Totem whether or not that "small inducement" can be as small as a single free card.

Sure,.. however I would be among the first subscribers for iDancernude.

Is this what you are thinking EF?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epxqV5CRfTc



:D

Sure,.. however I would be among the first subscribers for iDancernude.

I would like to be able to play the existing iDancer clips as if they were ordinary iStripper cards - even if though this would mean losing the music synchronisation feature that characterises iDancer.

@portoricos

@number6
Sorry for my language

Don't ever apologise for language.

Your English is far better than my Italian.

I used Google translate to read your post.

Now I understand your problem isn't just with the Red Fox card.

OK. I am sure there will come a point in time when I will be unable to obtain one of these special event cards for whatever reason. It will be disappointing but unfortunately that is life. It isn't really the end of the world.

There a few cards that aren't in my collection and can never be obtained because they have been removed. Like I said disappointing but life goes on.

Using Google translate

Non ti scusare mai per la lingua.

Il tuo inglese è di gran lunga migliore del mio italiano.

Ho usato Google translate per leggere il tuo post.

Ora capisco che il tuo problema non è solo con la scheda Red Fox.

OK. Sono sicuro che arriverà un momento in cui non sarò in grado di ottenere una di queste carte evento speciali per qualsiasi motivo. Sarà deludente, ma sfortunatamente è la vita. Non è davvero la fine del mondo.

Ci sono alcune carte che non sono nella mia collezione e non possono mai essere ottenute perché sono state rimosse. Come ho detto deludente, ma la vita va avanti.

LOL @Z22, i'll have what he's having ;)

Wow, that's what I call a s***storm. I think it was a big mistake to bite the hand that feeds.
Good to see that I am not the only one absolutely dislikes this "great offer".

What? It's not a bad offer for those that are more interested in having Totem keep the lights on in the studio and paying the models and staff than in getting ***** discounts beyond what their level allows.

People here need to stop being so entitled.

Indeed
On that, we agree

Yeah wanting to have a card without having in dump credits into a whole months worth ahead of time is feeling entitled... that makes soooooo much sense

Yes. Wanting and expecting to have a card without going through the channels as prescribed by the vendor/producer is nothing less than entitlement.

What was the expected channels when I and many others first started was that you buy a card that was offered, when those changed then yeah us who don't like it are entitled to express how we don't like it, and well if you don't like it tough. This is gonna more the likely keep happening with every exclusive card that comes out so you can just sit back and keep scoffing at the entitlement then.

Yes, I am going to keep scoffing at the entitlement.

You still have three or so days to get the card with the current offer. After that time is up, well you can throw thousands of credits at the scratch game in the hopes that RNGeesus smiles at you, and then rail at the crappiness of Totem's games.

Better off paying the 500 or whatever credits now. Who knows, you might even like some of cards released in July.

Oh I already got it, felt like a bitch doing it too. Totem won out on this one cause I adore the red fox. If I decided not to do the deal I would have said screw the card. But yeah you can scoff at my entitlement, I can scoff at your brownosing and we can just keep doing this whole thing over when the next card comes ouit (whether its one I personally want or not I am still gonna call this bullcrap out)

I'll be waiting for that day. It's going to add some fun to an otherwise mundane Friday morning.

Sounds like a date. Looking forward to the drama.

I'll have my steel-toed stilettos ready.

@Chicsans

What? It's not a bad offer for those that are more interested in having Totem keep the lights on in the studio and paying the models and staff than in getting ***** discounts beyond what their level allows.

People here need to stop being so entitled

I don't know if you are responding to my post or not, but since I did refer to the Black Fox promotion as a "one-sided deal" I'll offer a rebuttal:

1) First, let's establish that I shared an opinion about how Totem could incentivize me to participate in their bulk-buy promotions (you know, so I would then want to buy more credits and help them "keep the lights on"), not some "entitled" demand for "***** discounts beyond what my level allows". I did not ask, nor would I ask, for that. In fact, I'm quite satisfied with the built-in discount tiers and advancement requirements Totem has in place (and I love the additional flash sales that occasionally pop up), but that's beside the point as my post had nothing to do with discounts.

2) Second, my post had to do with the way this particular promotion was structured. I don't think it's unreasonable to offer Totem feedback saying that requiring a blind buy of several hundred credits upfront to unlock a single card is one-sided. Totem gets my money for the credits I buy either way; all I'm asking is to know what I'm redeeming with those credits I've purchased. That's hardly an "entitled" request. I mean ... do you go to the supermarket and pay upfront for a bag of mystery groceries? Do you go to the theater and pay for a ticket only to find out what movie you're going to see after you've taken your seat? Again, I'm not asking for some additional or "***** discount beyond what my level allows"; I'm simply saying I want to know what I'm paying for. I would be much more inclined to participate in a bulk-buy promotion if a) I could preview what cards I'm redeeming or b) the cards I receive are randomly selected from my wishlist. I just want to know I'm not throwing my money away on cards I won't ever use. Heck, even if they wanted to leave the bulk-promotion structure as is but also offer an individual-buy option at a premium price for those who just want to buy the Black Fox card, I'd be all sorts of interested.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter to me if I ever own the Black Fox card or if Totem decides to do anything with my feedback. It's their business model, and they can do whatever they like. I simply wanted to share how they could incentivize me -- and I'm sure many others -- as a user of their platform, to participate in these bulk promotions and spend lots of credits at a single time (and therefore buy more credits). As for right now, though, I'm completely satisified to just buy the shows I want individually (and purchase credits less often) if it means I get to know what I'm spending my money on.

Please feel free to disagree with my opinion, but please don't insinuate that that somehow makes me "entitled" or claim that I'm somehow trying to weasel my way into a bigger discount.

I'll have my steel-toed stilettos ready.

Seriously,
I've been looking for a pair of these for the Bosses *****,
who walks out into the shop with open toed shoes on.

A few years back, she cut her leg and had to get 120 stitches
but hasn't learned her lesson.


Do they really exist?
Where?

Just a few short years ago, each card was amazing, & that is what placed me on the path to wanting them all. But now, the focus seems to have narrowed to mostly just girls from eastern europe, instead of the worldwide options that used to be offered. Within the last 1-2 years the standard has become more like this: Some girls are hot, some simply are not. For that reason, more & more customers are becoming very particular about which cards are purchased. All of the girls are beautiful in their own way, some just a lot more than others.