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TyRc84
Joined in Jul 2008

19 投稿
May 16, 2017
I say the XXX option becomes a paid addition to standard iStripper cards. So you would have the introduction (with sound) then the typical iStripper dancing, stripping and teasing (without sound) as a base purchse option, then the XXX content (with sound) with the model in the same outfit on the same card could be an additional purchase for those who want those clips.

This would save time for the production team since they wouldn't have to film extra teasing/dancing, only the additional XXX content for each outfit. There could be more cards produced per model because of time saved needing to film, photograph and edit. There would be less outfits to change, less time in makeup/changing hair styles, etc.

Pricing per Card (outfit):
  • Basic Striptease = 20 credits
  • XXX Content = 12 credits
  • Full Show (Basic+XXX) = 28 credits

  • The above prices are just random, but the pricing structure used above would be a good incentive for people to buy the whole show to save a few credits versus buying Basic and XXX individually.

    Clips would be broken down into these buyable categories:
  • Free Previews (2 to 3 clips) (2-3 minutes)
  • Basic Striptease (introduction, pole, table, swing, in/out, etc) (10 to 20 clips) (20 -30 minutes)
  • XXX (table, in/out, toy, etc) (4 to 8 clips) (10-20 minutes)
  • EverthangForever
    Joined in Oct 2009

    2455 投稿
    May 16, 2017
    @TyRc I like the idea of component cards, I often feel Totem let too much out in one go.
    The problem is the model is only there in the Studio for a brief time.
    In an ideal world, we could pledge our money in escrow and Totem could wait until the amount to cover fees for comprehensive shows with options was raised.

    Good thinking for future though and I agree your minimum pricing structures.
    Novoj
    Joined in Jan 2014

    20 投稿
    May 16, 2017
    I say the XXX option becomes a paid addition to standard iStripper cards. So you would have the introduction (with sound) then the typical iStripper dancing, stripping and teasing (without sound) as a base purchse option, then the XXX content (with sound) with the model in the same outfit on the same card could be an additional purchase for those who want those clips.

    This would save time for the production team since they wouldn't have to film extra teasing/dancing, only the additional XXX content for each outfit. There could be more cards produced per model because of time saved needing to film, photograph and edit. There would be less outfits to change, less time in makeup/changing hair styles, etc.

    Pricing per Card (outfit):
    Basic Striptease = 20 creditsXXX Content = 12 creditsFull Show (Basic+XXX) = 28 credits
    The above prices are just random, but the pricing structure used above would be a good incentive for people to buy the whole show to save a few credits versus buying Basic and XXX individually.

    Clips would be broken down into these buyable categories:
    Free Previews (2 to 3 clips) (2-3 minutes)Basic Striptease (introduction, pole, table, swing, in/out, etc) (10 to 20 clips) (20 -30 minutes)XXX (table, in/out, toy, etc) (4 to 8 clips) (10-20 minutes)
    THIS IS A GREAT IDEA! someone give this person free credits
    EverthangForever
    Joined in Oct 2009

    2455 投稿
    May 16, 2017
    @Rex is probably thinking,.. guys would only buy the options, not the base card..yikes !
    Simple.. don't let the options run, unless they are coupled with a base card. :-)
    TheEmu
    Joined in Jul 2012

    3309 投稿
    May 16, 2017
    I am not so sure about @TyRc's idea of component cards as @EverthangForever and @Novoj, but its certainly worth thinking about. The only reason I can think of not to like it is that I would prefer shows with XXX content to have a somewhat different overall feel to them even in the non-XXX parts of the show - things like the type of clothing and the presence of sex toys in non XXX clips even though they are not used in them. More generaly I feel that the non XXX clips of an XXX card should hint at what is to come even though they don't show it.
    EverthangForever
    Joined in Oct 2009

    2455 投稿
    May 16, 2017 (edited)
    @TheEmu it depends on how it is done . An imitation rigid penis stuck to the floor next to a model performing actually tends to turn me right off. Shooting could however be
    done by splitting each long shoot without losing continuity.
    A supercard (extra day of shooting) paid in advance with many options
    Intro / no intro..Shoes / no shoes..Toys / no toys just fingers ...etc. sounds ideal.
    Components could be managed like selectable updates.
    TheEmu
    Joined in Jul 2012

    3309 投稿
    May 16, 2017
    @EverthangForever - I certainly agree with you that it depends on how its done and about just having a rigid penis stuck to the floor being a turn off, but I do think that the early parts what is ultimately an XXX performance should in some way tease the viewer in a way that relates to that final part rather than just tacking a few XXX clips onto what could otherwise be a non XXX card. There needs to be, I think, an overall theme to each card rather than two almost independant parts and that theme should be more than just the same costume being worn.
    Novoj
    Joined in Jan 2014

    20 投稿
    May 16, 2017
    Okay i did think about the options idea and can see how it can go south but I do agree XXX should stand out from regular cards. I personally dont have a problem with the toy kinda just being there on the side because it lets me know what kind of fun is in store with the card if there does happen to be toys. Again I would like more usage of the toys if possible. Its more entertaining for me to watch a model play with herself with something other than her fingers especially when we had duos.
    KatzPaw
    Joined in Apr 2015

    396 投稿
    May 16, 2017
    I don't understand people trying to keep xxx out of the xxx cards -.- Standing stuff I can see going easy, but having the pole added, there are so many new options, and keep in mind the glass potential. If any splitting of components were to happen I'd rather it swing heavy on the xxx side, standing strip and everything else xxx for an xxx card.
    EverthangForever
    Joined in Oct 2009

    2455 投稿
    May 17, 2017 (edited)
    To all guys clammoring for xxx by a model standing up
    I guess that requires penetration standing ~ forget it.
    Very uncomfortable or impossible to sustain and you
    will see no detail. Its not what a model would choose to do.

    Oh you may get penetration alright with pole clips, standing, glass etc.
    but the model will be on the floor in small size during it,
    not in full taskbar size. All this takes time away from table clips with their
    good variety by spreads & french ticklers (rabbit ears), or skin on skin
    which would beat endless inout dildo work under a vulva covering hand.

    The DNA standing pole, tease thing does not work same way with xxx,
    and I'm really not keen on models parading pentrative toys or endless
    sucking of dildos as a prelude.
    ckvghduser
    Joined in Oct 2007

    253 投稿
    May 17, 2017
    @EverthangForever Guess again. Watch some of the real early xxx cards. It works just fine and those were not as high resolution. It would be great!
    TheEmu
    Joined in Jul 2012

    3309 投稿
    May 17, 2017
    @ckvghduser - The early XXX did offer standing XXX clips featuring insertion, and they looked good, but apparently the girls found that it was very uncomfortable (I can vaguely remember the post explaining that, and its not hard to find other posts refering to it) so rather than have the girls do something they were unhappy with that style of clip was dropped.
    ckvghduser
    Joined in Oct 2007

    253 投稿
    May 17, 2017
    @TheEmu Oh, I wasn't aware of that. Too bad. I enjoyed it. Well, I'm happy with the new integration of XXX shows in the standard cards anyway. That was the way it was for a while, so I'm glad it's back. Hopefully, all the cards can have 1 to 3 XXX shows within the card along with the non XXX standing clips as well. I'd be happy with that.

    Thanks for the info.
    TheEmu
    Joined in Jul 2012

    3309 投稿
    May 17, 2017
    @ckvghduser - I quite liked them too. For me I think it worked best in the cage duo clips rather than the freestanding clips or cage solo clips but I can't explain why I feel that way.
    EverthangForever
    Joined in Oct 2009

    2455 投稿
    May 17, 2017
    Sure its all about the girls working happy without it getting sappy...

    @vckghduser Haaa don't mind me. Me just a little jaded (biased) from making so many table fullscreens a while ago Lol. Totem will advance the Art as they always do with great pezaz I'm sure ;-)>

    PS: @Wyld btw I think some of your great music is touch glitchy in the middle, or it could just be my system.
    Wyldanimal
    モデレータ
    Joined in Mar 2008

    3909 投稿
    May 17, 2017

    PS: @Wyld btw I think some of your great music is touch glitchy in the middle, or it could just be my system.

    you sort of lost me with that...
    my Music?
    details please...
    Novoj
    Joined in Jan 2014

    20 投稿
    May 17, 2017
    It should honestly be whatever the model is more comfortable with. If she says she is willing to do standing then allow it and if she has anything else to bring to the table that would be great but if she is uncomfortable with anything "new" then we just have to learn to live with it.
    EverthangForever
    Joined in Oct 2009

    2455 投稿
    May 17, 2017
    @Wyld, sent you a PM.
    EverthangForever
    Joined in Oct 2009

    2455 投稿
    May 18, 2017
    As the votes go past 600... Starting to slide the other way: 31% vs 69%
    KatzPaw
    Joined in Apr 2015

    396 投稿
    May 18, 2017
    Or the extremes 15% and 40% vs 45% not what it was or is :P Too tired to try to make it sound like any sense lol
    Theo
    モデレータ
    Joined in Sep 2007

    88 投稿
    May 18, 2017
    It depends always from your point of view. Do not trust any statistics you've didn't manupulate by your own.

    I read it - 60% not happy with the current 😉

    TallandSlimMan
    Joined in Apr 2008

    463 投稿
    May 18, 2017
    As others have said,,,show more ass in the previews, sell more cards! Also, a good number of ass shots in the photio set are needed.

    X-rated: I like ass and vaginal lip spreading (and would like to see more of this, with the model taking her time) , but really don't care for the dildoes. I prefer single shows over duos.

    Cages and swings: ***** them both.

    I would like to see at least one clip in every show where the model is totaly nude from start to finish...and this would be the clip that appears when one clicks the "striptease" button, which used to be called the "show me nudity" button.

    Thanks for listening.
    TheEmu
    Joined in Jul 2012

    3309 投稿
    May 18, 2017
    @TallandSlimMan said
    I would like to see at least one clip in every show where the model is totaly nude from start to finish...and this would be the clip that appears when one clicks the "striptease" button, which used to be called the "show me nudity" button.

    I appreciate that there are some who share your point of view, but I and many others take the opposite view - the stripping and the teasing are what iStripper is all about (the name being a clue here) and, for us, starting from totaly nude negates both of these. I am not against some cards having one such clip, but would not like it as a regular part of the shows.
    KatzPaw
    Joined in Apr 2015

    396 投稿
    May 18, 2017
    Maybe a new button, show me the newds.
    EverthangForever
    Joined in Oct 2009

    2455 投稿
    May 18, 2017 (edited)
    @TallAndSlimMan ~ I would like to see at least one clip in every show where the model is totaly nude from start to finish
    Agree. This is the whole point of Striptease to me. It represents the correct conclusion of every striptease rather than savoring only the journey as @TheEmu above espouses.
    Anticipating real 'Full Nudity' is an integral part of the tease process and at the moment many (more than 30%) cards fail in honouring this, and hence have generally been ommitted from my own purchases. Production need to think about this issue and the ubiquitous 'full nudity' promotions they give.
    TheEmu
    Joined in Jul 2012

    3309 投稿
    May 19, 2017
    @EverthangForever - I agree that full nudity should be the conclusion, but I don't think it makes much sense as a start except for an occassional reverse strip clip.
    EverthangForever
    Joined in Oct 2009

    2455 投稿
    May 19, 2017 (edited)
    @TheEmu I think @TASM was referring to one clip's content, not the start of a show.
    @Rex needs to know what is affecting sales and true "real full nudity' completion of each card's contents is valid.
    TheEmu
    Joined in Jul 2012

    3309 投稿
    May 19, 2017
    @EverthangForever - I was also referring to the content of single clips. I don't mind the occassional clip that starts off naked, but I would always rather have a slightly longer clip starting with at least one item of clothing even if it is removed in less than ten seconds.
    EverthangForever
    Joined in Oct 2009

    2455 投稿
    May 19, 2017 (edited)
    @TheEmu - I agree that full nudity should be the conclusion

    Well we do agree on that point at least...which has not been honoured 'literally' by Totem in the past.
    Thanks.
    Novoj
    Joined in Jan 2014

    20 投稿
    May 19, 2017
    The strip button should be as it is a "strip" button. She should start with FULL outfit and STRIP down to fully nude. This in my opinion should be the longest clip in the set.

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