Research shows that the waist-hip ratio holds the key to sex appeal in women. Tests showed that women become more attractive to men as the waist becomes smaller in relation to the hip, with the ideal ratio in healthy premenopausal women being around .70. Women with ratios close to the "ideal" have been found to be healthier, more long lived and more fertile. They raise healthier, smarter children.

To test this theory, I tabulated the WHRs of my "favorite" models and of the VGHD "favorites":

Morgane, the all-time favorite VGHD model has a .65
Angel Kiss: .65
Shabba: .68
Zuzanna (my chosen baby mamma): .70
Olga Barz: .70
Karina: .71
Jana H: .71
Aria Giovani: .76
Adriana M: .76
Melisa: .80

Women who get breast implants are wasting their time and money.
Tabulate YOUR favorites and post them here.
Do your preferences follow evolutionary biology?

;)

So, my list is here:

Lea: 0.65
Lucynova: 0.69
Manon: 0.73
Saraliz: 0.84
Tess: 0.75
Zafira: 0.71
Monica Scott: 0.69
Belicia: 0.76
Bijou: 0.73
Morgane: 0.65

Saraliz is a little far from the ideal, but I am fond of her... :-D

Nadine: .69

Walleria 0.694
Ariel 0.79
Maii 0.67
Kayla 0.81(expected that but who can pass on such a face)
Tereza 0.71
Jana Cova 0.77
Lorena 0.74
Angelique 0.73

Yeah I can dig the instinctual drives....
But one person's babymaker pulchritude is another's ...er...
post-coital pillow!

Not thinkin' o' babies here!!
Yummy round the tummy (and below)!

:)

Great Butts! Thanks for the pictures.

They don't publish waist and hips, on the VirtuaGuy Web site, just height, weight and penis size. I wonder if there is a correlation there? Does size really matter? :-) :-) :-) What do women find most attractive, in a man? I bet it has something to do with chest and hips.

Medical and attractiveness studies tell me, that the ideal W/H ratio for a woman is .70, and for a man it is .90 This is becoming a better indication of health than body mass index because it better describes fat distribution, which is crucial to health and longevity.

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....Somewhere in the FarCanukdeianNorth..titilate is manically packing his bag & lickin' his hitchin' (and other uses) thumb...'n' headin' south just to be close t' this sistah!

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I'm easy!
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So far, Morgane and Angel Kiss hold the record, for lowest Waist:Hip ratio.

Can anyone find a model with a lower ratio?

Is a really low ratio very attractive, or is .70, or thereabouts, the most attractive?

I was surprised to see so many taking a stand as dedicated hip or breast aficionados. However, there has to be something more to this than pure waist / hip ratios. Torso length and upper leg diameter (hip length ?) and can play a part in determining the perception by some of overly chunky hips or a disproportionate rump in models. The fine tuning of these and more factors according to fashion and a viewers' experience makes any attempt at consensus quite difficult.

After reading this thread I got really interested in the subject and decided to investigate further, so I paid a visit to someone I know whom I knew might have some real information. According to a psychology professor I'm friends with (stopped by, brought lunch, picked his brain), the visual attraction of a female to by male is dependent on many factors (and they don't always apply). The thing they have in common is that they are many are generally believed to be "genetically hard-coded" into the male brain or developed at a young age and most are being found to be indicators of "fertility".

The most commonly recognized factors include the following:

Hip to Waist Ratio, (Waist/Hip), ideal = 0.7 (subconscious Female Body Language, like the "Pelvic Tilt" and "Rolling Hips" accentuate the HWR). Something to note is that there are actually two HWR measurements, actual HWR is consistent worldwide and "Frontal" HWR which is a flat measurement and varies culturally (0.7 in Western cultures, 0.6 in Eastern cultures and 0.8 in African and South American cultures).

Torso to Leg Ratio, (Leg/Torso), ideal = 1.4 (One big reason why high heels exist).

Bilateral Symmetry, mismatches between right and left sides reduce overall attractiveness, the important parts include facial features, breasts and bone structures (The plastic surgery industries bread and butter).

Body Mass Index, 20.0 is commonly deemed peak attractiveness, with a sharp drop off as it goes below 17 and a slow drop off as it goes above 25 (This closely follows the research results done by the medical community into female fertility, which rapidly drops below 17.0 and gradually drops above 25.0)

Body shape: Hourglass Figure, Linear Figure, Upper Figure, Upper Middle Figure, Lower Middle Figure, Lower Figure (This list consists of only shapes commonly considered as mainstream attractive).

• Hourglass is least common, and commonly perceived as most attractive.

Balanced Shapes
Hourglass Figure - Bust and Hips within 2 inches, Hip to Waist Ratio less than .75 (VGHD examples - Lea Tyron, Felina, Angel Kiss).
Linear Figure - Bust and Hips within 2 inches, Hip to Waist Ratio greater than .75 (VGHD examples - Melisa, Adriana M, Viki).

Top Heavy Shapes
Upper Figure - Bust greater than Hips by 3 or more inches, Hip to Waist Ratio less than .75 (VGHD examples - Ashley Robbins, Eufrat, Shabba).
Upper Middle Figure - Bust greater than Hips by 3 or more inches, Hip to Waist Ratio greater than .75 (VGHD examples - Tess).

Bottom Heavy Shapes
Lower Middle Figure - Hips greater than Bust by 3 or more inches, Hip to Waist Ratio greater than .75 (VGHD examples - Kayla, Saraliz, Natali Blond).
Lower Figure - Hips greater than Bust by 3 or more inches, Hip to Waist Ratio less than .75 (VGHD examples - Jenni Gregg, Lorena, Mogane).

The combination of different BMIs and a Body Shape or different Body Shapes and a similar BMI results in different perception of attractiveness.

• 1st Example both Viki and Melisa are Linear Figure shape, Viki with a estimated BMI of 17.2 looks very different from Melisa at a BMI of 19.7.
• 2nd Example both Eufrat (18.0) and Morgane (17.9) have similar BMIs, Eurfrat With a Upper Figure shape and Morgane with a Lower Figure shape.

Other Miscellaneous Factors
Hair Length - Long Hair is generally perceived to be more attractive than short hair.

Apparent age - Generally a younger (post-pubescent) apparent age more attractive.

Age difference between male and female - Generally, at younger ages the attractive range difference is smaller (1 to 2 years), as males age the attractive range increases, however, current studies are being done now to examine the current cougar/cub phenomena.

Breast Sag - Less sag is generally perceived as more attractive, this is an indicator of increased age.

Softer Facial Features - Softer, rounder facial features seemed to be preferred over sharper, more linear ones.

Common Features (sometimes referred to as "same good", or as "strange bad" factor) - The tendency to prefer women with "normal" facial and body features more than women with "exotic" features, however, the "normal" template is believed to develop at a young age (initially during the age in which face perception is set and/or during prepuberty and puberty) and is be effected to some extent by culture and environment.

Exotic Factor (sometimes referred to as "strange good" factor) - A very common phenomena based on Softer Facial Structures and Common Features, in which certain exotic features are are found more desirable than the common features (sometimes effected by cultural and environment). Examples of this can be seen as a preference to features dissimilar to those in the "normal" set, such as skin tone, eye shape, etc.* This can be seen in the common "Western" attraction to "Eastern" (Asiatic) features and the renewed trend among women in Asiatic countries with heavy "Western" influence to undergo plastic surgery to remove the epicanthal fold, in effect altering the eye shape to conform to a more Caucasian eye shape.


Nipple Contrast - General tendency to favor a contrast between skin color and aerola.

Erect and/or Visible Nipple - Found to drastically increase the perceived attractiveness of a woman.

That's all for now, and remember the saying different strokes for different folks does apply.

Top 20 models listed in order (04/23/10)

Model - Body Shape - HWR - BMI(Est.)
Olga Bartz - Hourglass Figure - .70 - 19.4
Angel Kiss - Hourglass Figure - .65 - 16.7*
Shay Laren - Linear Figure - .80 - 18.7
Manon - Hourglass Figure - .73 - 18.2
Melisa - Linear Figure - .80 - 19.7
Morgane - Lower Figure - .65 - 17.9
Jana H - Hourglass Figure - .70 - 17.9
Lorena - Lower Figure - .74 - 18.9
Jana Cova - Linear Figure - .77 - 18.8
Jenni Gregg - Lower Figure - .72 - 20.0
Eufrat - Upper Figure - .74 - 18.0
Lea Tyron - Hourglass Figure - .70 - 18.6
Sandra H - Hourglass Figure - .73 - 17.2
Lola - Linear Figure - .75 - 17.4
Viki - Linear Figure - .78 - 17.2
Monica Scott - Hourglass Figure - .69 - 17.7
Natali Blond - Lower Middle Figure - .76 - 18.0
Lucky - Hourglass Figure - .72 - 19.4**
Carie - Linear Figure - .80 - 17.5
Tereza - Hourglass Figure - .71 - 18.6

• Something seems really "off" with the given data (likely wieght), size and body type with her curves would I would guess at more of a 18.2 BMI (120lb).

** Again it seems something is "off" with given data (likely Waist), waist seems a bit larger than stats show.

@rick17126: Thanks for your efforts. It was very interesting to read your post.

Looks like a scientific compilation of reasearch data rather than why models are so popular, size, shape, etc.

@pianogrinder - My post was ment to be, as food for thought like a check list.

As we all know a cards user rating (popularity) has more than just physical attractiveness is involved. Costume, makeup, hair, facial expression, attitude, dance ability, pole skill and explicitness are also part of it.

For example look at the lowest rate card Jennifer Galbina - "Orange Soda" card 0086 (4.82 Rating). She is a physically attractive hourglass figure that with a HWR of .71, and BMI of 19.6 so she's a similar shape to the current highest rated card Olga Barz. Looking at the measurements, she's slightly larger in the bottom than Olga, a 1/2 inch shorter and one pound heavier. So what ***** her card?

Looking at the bonus photos the costume looks awful and the haircuts not far behind. Reading the reviews she has her supporters, but the majority of the reviews talk about how she does not move or dance well and how the show does not have alot of explicitness in the show.

Remember the common way for a girl to make up for her shortcomings when stripping/dancing is to accentuate what she has and does well and to de-emphasize her short comings and weaknesses, often by do more than other girls do. High heels to up the Torso to Leg Ratio, more dance (hip rolling) to accentuate the HWR, more explictness, better tease, pole skills, smiling, eye contact, better attitude, and interaction with clients all up a girls earning power when dancing.

These rules apply here, but only with rates/popularity. But, since there are no truly unattractive girls in any shows (some bad haircuts, makeup, outfits and enhancements). Girls who seem to consistantly score well in the ratings tend to dance and tease well, appear to feel comfortable dancing and with their bodies, make eye contact with the camera on a regular basis and tend to be on the more explicit side (willing to display if not handle the "goods").

Thanks for all this data @rick17126.;-) It explains the genetically imprinted preferences related to fertility paradigms & some of the historical & fashion aspects of this very well.

Beyond this, I've often thought how difficult it must be for Totem artists & choreographers to appeal to the widest possible spectrum of striptease aficionados. Conflicts arise when pubic hair and breast size are singled out as absolute preferences by some. I've often thought that Totem's job one day will be to create as many diversity options wherever possible in every shoot ie: unshaved vs shaved, stockings/shoes left on or taken off, jewellery, costume upskirt etc.

I think this is slowly happening although I doubt many clips are being held aside on individual cards atm. In an ideal world cards could be profiled at a premium to the users' expectations and that will require more than two days of shooting.

Anatomically, the collarbones shoulders and neck structure appear to be an important male sexual attractant and I guess that is reflected widely in dress fashion, hence artists and choreographers particularly for DeskBabes, could do well to study emphasis on gradually revealing or dwelling on female erogeonous zones like the clitoral region, the neck and clavicle area more specifically in their routines.

In some dancers, there is still a mad rush to get naked and massage the whole body like correctly applying a lotion or something;-(

Idea for the next version of VG after HD, automagically enhances the models' racks and amount of pubic hair to user taste. :p

But seriously, besides the obvious areas like breast, nipples, pink pearl, and wiggling hind end, the shoulders and neck are points of interest/attraction points as is the pelvic joint, the curve of the hip and never underestimate the power of eye contact. Women have a "natural" set subconscious of body language cues that they use to attract a males attention. Hip and rolling the hips which cue and highlight hip waist ratio, baring of wrist and exposure of the neck towards the "target" are both submissive behaviors/cues and of course there is the looking over the shoulder, caught you looking or come with me look. An examples of a couple dancers that puts on an excellent shows and uses a ton of those types of moves to tease is Jana H, Morgane, Lorena and Lea Tyron.

I think choice of outfit is under rated, a bad choice of outfit can make good model look "heavy", like Lucky's "Summer Party"). A better choice in outfit like her "Dolce Vita" or "Strike" cards is just incredible on her. I don't think you can go wrong with the bikini, lingerie, shorts and half shirt, etc. Another thing that I think is under rated is hair style, good example of this is Nella "Nascar Trophy" vs. "Hot Salsa" and "Ibiza" cards. If girls got long hair and she puts it up, let them put it down and shake it out, and sometimes the pigtails just don't do it. Last but far from least, heels are important, more important is comfort level in them , some models are comfortable in them and can dance, like Melissa, Manon and Sandra H, compared to Camilla, who looks insecure in heels (and in general).