Is it just my luck?! I spent a 1000 credits on the golden scratch promo & I got out with two jokers and 3 cards. is this normal or im just out of luck these days?

🤔 Just wondering is the 1000 credits your actual net spend? Did you not win any credits back playing the game?
Since the SEC can cost around 300-500 credits each, and often much more, even if 1000 credits used, you might actually consider that a good result. Especially since they are jokers you won. I've not played that game this time round. The 25 seems to work best for me.

Like you @WSW, I get far better results on the Twenty Five where constant small wins allow you to fill the bar with less overall outlay.

The problem with Golden Ticket is the cost per entry - at 50 credits each, a short run of bad luck can eat a lot of credits very rapidly and then you are at risk of chasing a debt.

🤔 Just wondering is the 1000 credits your actual net spend? Did you not win any credits back playing the game?
Since the SEC can cost around 300-500 credits each, and often much more, even if 1000 credits used, you might actually consider that a good result. Especially since they are jokers you won. I've not played that game this time round. The 25 seems to work best for me.

i went back to my history
i won cards two times one time 3 cards and the other 4 cards (so total 7 cards not 3 as i stated initially but mostly cards I didnt want from the start) anyways
also two more times i won joker cards, thes of the wins were 50 credits only which all i gambled again and push that my luck will change, the rest of the story were loses in tatal spent 1000 credits which would have got me anywhere from 72 to 99 cards.

thats y i feel down about it

its not the 1st time but these days the luck is not on my corner her on istripper promo games

@sxmn at least now you have 2 jokers - save them for the models you really like, if they make a SEC. You can avoid playing the games for a while now. I've had similar feelings over the last couple of years, but when I look at the average cost of all the cards it does not look so bad at all. Plus we get discounts, photo sets and bonus videos on top. 👍

@wrightsayswow I hear you. i should get off the games, but years back in the past i used to get benefit and a nice over all win from them that y i always fall back and tell may self today is the day.. but i guess the house always wins :D

I spent 4000 credits.

1500 credits for the first joker and 2500 credits for the second joker. Both on the progress bar only

As I can't win cards I only got back credits.

I won back 3000 credits so my net spend was 1000 credits for two jokers.

Somewhat surprised that with that sort of outlay I didn't actually win a joker with one of the scratchcards.

At one time my averge outlay for a SEC or Joker was around 250 credits. Now it is 500.

There was one instance where I won a SEC for an outlay of 20 credits but nowadays it seems there is less chance of winning. At least for those members without full collections they have a chance of winnining cards (or other secs).

I am getting closer to retirement so it is getting to the point where I need to seriously consider what I am spoending money on. 500 credits for a SEC will probably be no longer viable.

It is obvious that Totem has increased the complexity of winning in these games.

They probably had to look at our earnings vs. expenses at one time, which we wrote on this forum, to get an idea.

And to make it even more advantageous for them.

@Number6, you'll have to make up your mind. For those who have all the cards like us, there is more disadvantage in seeking to acquire SECs, for the reasons you give.


Il est évident que Totem a augmenté la complexité d'aquérir des gains dans ces jeux.

Ils devaient surement regarder à une certaines époque nos gains vs dépenses, que l'on écrivait sur ce forum, pour se faire une idée.

Et pour que cela soit encore plus avantageux pour eux.

@Number6, il va falloir vous faire une raison. Pour ceux qui ont toutes les cartes comme nous, il y a plus de désavantage à chercher à aquérir les SEC, pour les raisons que vous donnez.

For those who have all the cards like us, there is more disadvantage in seeking to acquire SECs, for the reasons you give.

I always assumed if you had all the cards it would be more of an advantage. You cant win any thing you don't want and I assumed if you one you one credits instead? Who knows I guess other than the programmer.

For me it was about 600 cr for a progress bar SEC but I haven't been playing lately because I already won the SEC I wanted and enough Jokers to last me awhile. I guess that makes me lucky or just a different kind of collector. I don't want all the cards I just want certain cards.

@Number6 - my experience as an owner of the full collection is that the best game to play is Twenty-Five.

Outlay to play each game is only 15 credits versus 50 for Golden Scratch - so instantly you are getting three times the chances.

Because it cannot give you cards as prizes, payouts tend to be more 15 credit wins which extends your playing time and hence fills up the bar faster.

In this last round of that game I ended up spending around 300 credits overall for which I won one Joker, filled the bar u p for 2 more Jokers and got around 12 gift cards,

I had a little dabble on Golden Scratch but did not like the rate of return.

my experience as an owner of the full collection is that the best game to play is Twenty-Five

Totally agree 👍 (I've a full collection too).

thanx eeryone for sharing your experiances

Its is intersting to see most of the responces, it seems that the algorithem in these games are not in favor of the top palyers or senders. Yes i would like some of the SECards but same as @Number6 its not worth it for me sending 50 times more for one card anymore.. unless your a hard core collector and you cant do without them, its just something now that i have to learn to live without.

An interesting and I think slanted interpretation of the responses.

If you read what myself and @stefnev1 said (and both of us have full collections), you will understand you just played the wrong game.

To be honest it is swings and roundabouts.

Last time I played the 25 game I got very poor results compared to previous times wheras the previous time I played the Golden Scratch I got a SEC and a Joker at a net cost of around 600 credits (so approx 300 credits each) which is why I went for it this time.