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Crystal Clear+ 4K ??

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supermouse
Da In Oct 2008

14 post(s)
March 31, 2021
Is Crystal Clear+ the same as 4K ? - I just gone premium, so updating some of my 3K shows - and if so, why not just use the term '4k' ?
Rambow
Da In Apr 2020

9 post(s)
March 31, 2021
Yes, 4k = Crystal Clear+
Stanston
Da In Aug 2018

1013 post(s)
March 31, 2021
@supermouse
On all Shows which have the Label CrystalClear+ you should see the Options when you choose
the Downloadresolution, see also my Screenshot.
supermouse
Da In Oct 2008

14 post(s)
March 31, 2021
Great thanks for respons! -
Wyldanimal
MODERATORE
Da In Mar 2008

3998 post(s)
March 31, 2021
Is Crystal Clear+ the same as 4K ?
No, they mean something different

Crystal Clear+ is the clarity and bitrate, not the resolution
There are 720p with Crystal Clear+ bitrate
There are 1080p with Crystal Clear+ bitrate
and there are 3K with Crystal Clear+ bitrate
all of these lower resolutions have a higher bit rate than other clarity rated bitrates

4K is the designation of resolution, and that is independent of the bitrate.

however, almost all of the cards released in 4K, are Also Crystal Clear+
so, One could say they are synonymous.



Evaneself
Da In Dec 2019

359 post(s)
June 7, 2021


Is Crystal Clear+ the same as 4K ?No, they mean something different

Crystal Clear+ is the clarity and bitrate, not the resolution
There are 720p with Crystal Clear+ bitrate
There are 1080p with Crystal Clear+ bitrate
and there are 3K with Crystal Clear+ bitrate
all of these lower resolutions have a higher bit rate than other clarity rated bitrates

4K is the designation of resolution, and that is independent of the bitrate.

however, almost all of the cards released in 4K, are Also Crystal Clear+
so, One could say they are synonymous.


Where is written which 720p or 1080p are Crystal Clear+ and which not, if there are 1080p with Crystal Clear+ bitrate?
Is written only Low, Medium, Standard, Crystal Clear and Crystal Clear+.
If I check Crystal Clear+, I see only the 3K cards.
Evaneself
Da In Dec 2019

359 post(s)
June 7, 2021
If I make Upgrade to Premium for the 4K cards, after the Premium upgrade expires, the 4k cards will be locked or deleted?
Or I will be able to access further the bought 4k cards and I will need to pay the Premium only for the next 4k cards which will appear?
Dorsai6
Da In Apr 2013

1033 post(s)
June 7, 2021
If I make Upgrade to Premium for the 4K cards, after the Premium upgrade expires, the 4k cards will be locked or deleted?

Once you download a card in 4K, it's yours even after your premium membership expires. I don't know what will happen if you delete a 4K card after your premium membership expires.
Bitwrangler
Da In Apr 2021

171 post(s)
June 8, 2021 (edited)
I have tried and failed to find the post where Totem explained Crystal Clear+ but from memory...

Crystal Clear+ involved a new studio environment and new cameras. Only the Crystal Clear+ clips are available in 4K. And in my opinion they have better production values and, well, not such heavy use of stage makeup on the girls.

HOWEVER- what resolution you download is up to you and your app settings- You can download a CC+ clip in 720K, 1080, 3K, and 4K. So no, they aren't really synonymous.
pickle1
MODERATORE
Da In Mar 2019

1353 post(s)
June 8, 2021
I have tried and failed to find the post where Totem explained Crystal Clear+ but from memory...Crystal Clear+ involved a new studio environment and new cameras. Only the Crystal Clear+ clips are available in 4K.HOWEVER- what resolution you download is up to you and your app settings- You can download a CC+ clip in 720K, 1080, 3K, and 4K. So no, they aren't really synonymous.

Go to the "i" button top-right on the App, then click on User Manual and scroll your way down to Resolutions
Bitwrangler
Da In Apr 2021

171 post(s)
June 8, 2021 (edited)
No, that's not it- and if you look closely at the manual I don't think that section has been updated since CC+ came out. I think it was a post, perhaps by the Boss...
TheEmu
Da In Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
June 8, 2021 (edited)
Where is written which 720p or 1080p are Crystal Clear+ and which not, if there are 1080p with Crystal Clear+ bitrate?
Is written only Low, Medium, Standard, Crystal Clear and Crystal Clear+.
If I check Crystal Clear+, I see only the 3K cards.

You can only see the resolutions that are available for you to download. The 4k resolution is only available to premium members so you do not see it in the menu.

As far as I am aware all Crystal Clear+ are available in 4k and vice versa though in principle that need not be the case. I have not checked each card individually, but if I filter my collection for Crystal Clear+ there are 739 cards with that quality and if I search the xml files exactly the same number have 4k as one of their available resolutions - so I would say that yes, the two terms are effectively synonymous as far a the current set of cards are concerned.

The terms are not strictly synonymous as Crystal Clear+ differs from the other card quality classes in ways other than just the resolution but currently in iStripper they designate the same set of cards. This equivalance will almost certainly continue until an even higher resolution is introduced at which point a new "quality" term will likely be used to designate it.
Wyldanimal
MODERATORE
Da In Mar 2008

3998 post(s)
June 8, 2021 (edited)
Crystal Clear+ is NOT the Resolution
Crystal Clear+ is a higher bit rate encoding, So All resolutions benefit from the Higher bit rate.

Also, Crystal Clear+ are encoded at 30 frames per second now, vs the older cards at 24 frames per second.
Crystal Clear+ can have 256 levels of Edge transparency, verses the older cards with just 8 levels of transparency.
( to help eliminate the Jagged Edges )

Crystal Clear+ was rolled out at the same time as 4K resolution, but it is not synonymous with 4K.
But Since all the 4K cards are Also Crystal Clear+, in this case, you could say it is synonymous .
TheEmu
Da In Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
June 8, 2021
Crystal Clear+ is NOT the Resolution

Which is why I said that they are effectively synonymous (they designate the same set of cards) and went on to state that there were, indeed, other differences.
Evaneself
Da In Dec 2019

359 post(s)
June 8, 2021
If I make Upgrade to Premium for the 4K cards, after the Premium upgrade expires, the 4k cards will be locked or deleted? Once you download a card in 4K, it's yours even after your premium membership expires. I don't know what will happen if you delete a 4K card after your premium membership expires.

Someone other, please confirm that once I have the 4k cards with Premium, I will be able to play them at 4k even after my Premium expires!!
Thank you very much!
<3
Philours
Da In Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
June 8, 2021
’une fois que j’ai les cartes 4k avec Premium, je serai en mesure de les jouer à 4k même après l’expiration de mon Premium!!
C'est bien ce que j'ai compris. Les cartes doivent être téléchargées en 4k durant votre abonnement. Pas seulement achetées et non téléchargées ou téléchargées dans une résolution inférieure.
This is what I understood. Maps must be downloaded in 4k during your subscription. Not just purchased and not downloaded or uploaded in a lower resolution.
Wyldanimal
MODERATORE
Da In Mar 2008

3998 post(s)
June 8, 2021
@Evaneself

Any card you download in 4K is permanently in your collection.
Even after your Premium membership Ends, They are still part of your Collection.
You can even Redownload them in 4K if they get deleted.

While your Premium membership is Active, you can Download Any Prior released cards you Already own, in 4K
Plus All the New cards released in 4K that you Purchase.

the 4K cards you download are yours for as long as their is an iStripper.

After your Premium membership expires, you can no Longer Download NEW 4K cards you Purchase After the end of the membership
But All 4K cards you added while your membership was active are yours to keep.
Even cards that you Already own, and you re-downloaded in 4K.



Wyldanimal
MODERATORE
Da In Mar 2008

3998 post(s)
June 8, 2021 (edited)
Not just purchased and not downloaded or uploaded in a lower resolution.
While you have a premium membership
4K is Unlocked Simply by Purchasing a card that Has the 4K resolution.

you do NOT need to Download the 4K resolution for it to count as being in your Collection.

You can purchase a card, and download it in 720p
4k for that card is unlocked and you can download it in 4K at any time later.
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/43080/1?post=636448
Tutto su iStripper / Questions about Premium offer
Precision about the 4k: The Premium allows you to unlock the 4k resolution of all crystal clear shows, even the ones already in your collection!
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/43080/3?post=636495
Tutto su iStripper / Questions about Premium offer
I assume that if we buy this subscription and sownload 4k, that the 4k card resolutuion is ours to keep even if we decide not to renew the subscription??Can someone tell me what the difference is in t...
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/43080/3?post=636504
Tutto su iStripper / Questions about Premium offer
EDIT : If you upgrade then cancel instantly, it will remain active for 1 year then will not rebill
What I can't answer is:
Do you have to Download 4K for cards already in your Collection
or Are they Automatically Unlocked because they are Already in your Collection.

Update, I found the Answer to the Above
for Cards you already own Prior to becomming a Premium member.
You MUST download them in 4K, to be able to have them Downloadable in 4K After your Membership expires.
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/43962/1?post=696540
Tutto su iStripper / Is premium membership only worth it depending on spending habits?
Seems like there is a glitch in the logic here...What about the shows that may have a 4K version but that would have been purchased prior to be Premium member? Their 4k resolution is not accessible
Philours
Da In Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
June 8, 2021
O.K. Vous pouvez la télécharger plus tard en 4k pendant votre abonnement Premium.
Ensuite cela ne sera plus possible. Du moins pour les cartes antérieures a votre abonnement.
O.K. You can download it later in 4k during your Premium subscription.
Then it will no longer be possible. At least for cards prior to your subscription.
Evaneself
Da In Dec 2019

359 post(s)
June 8, 2021
O.K. Vous pouvez la télécharger plus tard en 4k pendant votre abonnement Premium.Ensuite cela ne sera plus possible. Du moins pour les cartes antérieures a votre abonnement.O.K. You can download it later in 4k during your Premium subscription.Then it will no longer be possible. At least for cards prior to your subscription.

What are you writing about?
Is just written above that you can still download in 4k the bought cards, after the Premium is ended.
The 4k cards released after the ended Premium, can't be downloaded in 4k, but only in 3k or less.
Philours
Da In Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
June 8, 2021
Les cartes 4k publiées après la fin de la Prime ne peuvent pas être téléchargées en 4k, mais uniquement en 3k ou moins.
Oui, évidemment. Yes of course.
Est juste écrit ci-dessus que vous pouvez toujours télécharger en 4k les cartes achetées, après la fin de la Prime.
Pour les cartes sorties avant votre abonnement : non.
For cards issued before your subscription: no.
Evaneself
Da In Dec 2019

359 post(s)
June 8, 2021
OK. Let's say that some things are lost in translation.
All the best!
Philours
Da In Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
June 8, 2021
Oui c'est possible. Car le sujet n'est pas si simple qu'il ne parait 😊Yes it's possible. Because the subject is not as simple as it seems 😊

Encore une note officielle ici :
Une fois que 1 an s’est écoulé et que votre abonnement a pris fin, tout spectacle Crystal Clear + acheté pendant votre abonnement Premium restera téléchargeable en résolution 4k même s’il n’a pas été téléchargé pendant que votre prime était actif.

One more official note here:
[quote] Once 1 year has passed and your subscription has ended, any Crystal Clear + show purchased during your Premium subscription will remain downloadable in 4k resolution even if it has not been downloaded while your bounty was active.
[/ quote]
Stanston
Da In Aug 2018

1013 post(s)
June 8, 2021
@Evaneself
What are you writing about?
Two possible Situations for that.
First @Philours is trying to Hijack the Topic or second he is referring to this.
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/43962/1?post=696520
Tutto su iStripper / Is premium membership only worth it depending on spending habits?
The full shows with a 4k resolution that you have purchased during your Premium will remain downloadable in 4k after your Premium ends 👍
But the Question was answered there already as well.
Evaneself
Da In Dec 2019

359 post(s)
June 8, 2021
The best explanation ever!
Thank you!
I can't wait to upgrade at Premium and to redownload all at 4k. Anyway, it seems that I must keep buying Premium because of the new cards.
We need servers with big HDDs!!
Philours
Da In Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
June 8, 2021
@Evaneself
J'espère que tout est plus ou moins clair pour vous maintenant.
Oui prévoyez de l'espace de stockage et un moniteur approprié.👌
Hope everything is more or less clear to you now.
Yes, plan for storage space and a suitable monitor.
pickle1
MODERATORE
Da In Mar 2019

1353 post(s)
June 8, 2021
The best explanation ever!Thank you!I can't wait to upgrade at Premium and to redownload all at 4k. Anyway, it seems that I must keep buying Premium because of the new cards.We need servers with big HDDs!!

@Evaneself - I have all the 4k cards downloaded in 4k and I am rapidly filling a 6tB HDD.

4k shows regularly reach 2gB in size.

And don't forget to double your capacity needs to cater for back-ups.
Sexy3DBoy
Da In Jun 2011

480 post(s)
June 8, 2021 (edited)
Ben moi, j'ai eu beau chercher dans ma boule de Crystal mais j'ai rien trouvé même pas 1K. C'est pas clair.😕

Well, I had a good look in my Crystal's ball but I couldn't find anything, not even 1K. It's not Clear.😕

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