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Terbone
Da In May 2013

238 post(s)
May 7, 2017 (edited)
Comment
yeh oké, The Emu what is the next step? no XXX rated cards at all?.. And I said this new XXX Format is a iStripper+ Card Dont replace the XXX Rated Card (Replacement/Remove is wrong at all time). Deskbabes is just removed for the most members, as do they experience like that. Money or no-money, this decission makes peeple leave and lose even more money I guess. they make their own software/company very small like this :S .. how can this be a solution really for money problems :( ... So I have to face it Totem Entertainment is at fase: bankruptcy or what ? :( :( .. I dont know what to think anymore :|.. I just try to give free comment to give as suggestion/feedback. yeh If the software/company are closed over next the week, I know my answer :S. But for now I have not any vision of their Money Financials.. I'm only able to clear up my statements and I'm disagree with their actions about New XXX Rated Format. For now, I wasn't plan to stop with my Feedback Comments.
HansSachs
Da In Mar 2016

989 post(s)
May 7, 2017
About new xxx cards: @kaiju stated clearly that feedback about them is welcome... so we all are not only allowed, but welcome, to tell our opinions.
About Totem: we really don't know anything about its situation, but surely the closing of US studio is not a good sign.
So please let's all tell our opinions, but go on buying cards, supporting the company and helping it to stay in business; it will be far, far more useful than going on asking them for extremely costful improvements, such as VR and so on...
Just my 2c.
orclover
Da In Jun 2012

744 post(s)
May 7, 2017
I think the american studio has to be viewed more as a content cycle and not a failure or a sign of trouble. Should be viewed in the same light as the dorcel contract. Totem paid rent on a studio, paid a team. Once the lease on the studio was up they closed it, but in the process they hired a large percentage of the better american dancers available and now have a decent collection of global porn stars to mix into their eastern euro collection. Eventually the American cards will pay off. I wouldn't worry about the viability of the product as well. There are 4000 cards to buy, and the product is mostly hack proof. The worst period for vghd occurred when the product was hacked, and all 2000 cards at that time could easily be downloaded for free. That is no longer the case and won't be as long as they continue to update the software monthly. This product is very cyclical. We are in a period where they are redrafting what xxx means, and reevaluating their talent vs. cost ratio.
TheEmu
Da In Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
May 8, 2017 (edited)
@Terbone - your views, and those of anyone else, regarding the new XXX cards are welcome. All I was trying to say was that the situation may be more complex than you seemed to assume and that we users do not have access to the data that would allow us to make predictions about the effect of any changes that we may suggest. That should not stop us from making suggestions nor from saying what we think may be the effect, but we should be aware of our lack of knowledge.

With respect to the change to the new format, I basicly agree with you with respect to the sound, though for me it is not a such an important aspect of the clips as it seems to be for you. I also would like sound on a "let me introduce myself" clip and not just for the XXX cards. We should also remember that for any clip where the girl may be "dancing" sound may not be possible because of any music being played while the dance is being recorded - even a few seconds of music accidently recorded with a clip would mean that all sound had to be suppressed for that clip. I personaly would rather have the girls use music than have them try to dance without it even if the clip does feature some XXX action, but to have sound on most of the clips for which music was not used when making them.

One thing that occurs to me is that it would be useful if the presence of sound for a clip was indicated in some way on the list of clips for a card. This could be done using another icon, e.g. a mouth, alongside those that indicate if clip has accessories, is an inout clip etc.

Because the change in the XXX format was such a large one, I think that we can be sure that Totem thought long and hard before doing it and are closely monitoring both its effect on sales and our comments. and will, if appropriate, tweak the details.
EverthangForever
Da In Oct 2009

2489 post(s)
May 8, 2017
..for any clip where the girl may be "dancing" sound may not be possible because of any music being played while the dance is being recorded - even a few seconds of music accidently recorded with a clip would mean that all sound had to be suppressed for that clip. I personaly would rather have the girls use music than have them try to dance without it even if the clip does feature some XXX action
I agree with @TheEmu.
If the model requires copyright music to give her best performance, then let her do so, without our demands for studio silence.
Terbone
Da In May 2013

238 post(s)
May 8, 2017 (edited)
**Reply to TheEmu**
your views, and those of anyone else, regarding the new XXX cards are welcome. All I was trying to say was that the situation may be more complex than you seemed to assume and that we users do not have access to the data that would allow us to make predictions about the effect of any changes that we may suggest. That should not stop us from making suggestions nor from saying what we think may be the effect, but we should be aware of our lack of knowledge.

Thanks for your Comment towards me TheEmu. I can see you do your best to show my the other side of the picture and that side of the picture is what "I Dont to See and think about" but must be aware of. Still I think quiet the same as couple days ago, but I'm glad members like you let me think about the another vision of the story or facts (well, we dont really know all the facts). But I must admit: I know a Studio is closed, I know that models are quiet expensive to invite but I'm unable to find any sentence that tells they have put in this New XXX Rated format because of problems with Money Profits and if any member can show me this missing sentence, feel free to link me. :D

**Sound in Dance Cards**
The dance show of the models are good as it is now, and by that I agree we dont really need sound by those dance clips but it is welcome by the introduction clips because with some models we dont know how they sounds like their voices :D, they most likely listen to music in the background while recording dance performance. We want to keep the option to select our own music aswell by the Music Selection Tab and we have option to toggle Music On/Off, right? :P, So I think they do pretty good job by these iStripper Dance Cards and this new Glass Category.. hot !! :D they are all invited to do my car !! :D (Oh no, where is my money?? :O :D)

**Sound Icon**
One thing that occurs to me is that it would be useful if the presence of sound for a clip was indicated in some way on the list of clips for a card. This could be done using another icon, e.g. a mouth, alongside those that indicate if clip has accessories, is an inout clip etc.

Yeah, I agree with you here. would be quiet helpful a Icon that indicates wich clips contains Sound

**Totems Monitoring**
Because the change in the XXX format was such a large one, I think that we can be sure that Totem thought long and hard before doing it and are closely monitoring both its effect on sales and our comments. and will, if appropriate, tweak the details.

Of course, still I hoped for they had gave us some kind of survey/poll for this huge movement change in format. As one of the customer I really felt being passed to give my vote/answer. I will stop talking for all members of totems database but only for me, other members have to speak for themselves. The fact is I dont know how many members are agree or disagree with me, it is just unlikely I'm the only one thinking this way.
Dorsai6
Da In Apr 2013

1033 post(s)
May 8, 2017
Re: One thing that occurs to me is that it would be useful if the presence of sound for a clip was indicated in some way on the list of clips for a card.

Excellent idea.
Rex
ATTREZZATURA
Da In Sep 2007

364 post(s)
May 8, 2017
Producing XXX cards like they were before or in the new format is exactly the same cost. Our motivation here is to produce a better content and we're very pleased to see feedback about it. We'll poll users feedback soon to get a better idea, but I already wrote down that model's presentation and find a way to record sound (when no music is played for the model to dance) are the two first important ones.
TheEmu
Da In Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
May 8, 2017
@Rex - Thanks for the information. I am a little surprised that the two styles of card cost exactly the same to produce as I would have expected that there was some cost involved with checking that the sound was OK in the delivered clips that have it - but I can well believe that the difference is negligable.
Terbone
Da In May 2013

238 post(s)
May 8, 2017 (edited)
**Comment to Rex**
Thanks for the answer, Rex! I'm looking forward to take part of the new upcomming poll :).

Still ask myself why this new XXX Format isn't made as third card series, like I suggest before with iStripper+ or some other name? Aslong I know iStripper XXX older format isn't gone for good and the price are quiet the same as you have said. I have seen some comments aswell peeple like these new format but the other prefer the older format one. And the New Format XXX Cards as new content with a new name tells us aswell wich Record are with full Sound and wich onces with Dance/3 á 5 explicit clips. Maybe this is even better idea than a Poll, why choose one when we can have both? - All members with Happy Endings :P :P

**Suggestion**
  • iStripper
  • iStripper+ (or other title)
  • iStripper XXX
EverthangForever
Da In Oct 2009

2489 post(s)
May 8, 2017 (edited)
I like the long edging clips in xxx. Sometimes I wish the studio table and floor did not sound so hollow...anyhow Totem is doing something right. I have never bought so many cards as lately 😊
Terbone
Da In May 2013

238 post(s)
May 8, 2017
**Comment to Rex and Others**
http://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/36321/1?post=535781
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Hi Rex, I would like to invite you and all other members of course :D to take a visit to my suggestion by 'Ideas & Suggestions'. This Topic contains more information about the Suggestion I did earlier in this Topic. Leave a comment as Feedback if you want.
HansSachs
Da In Mar 2016

989 post(s)
May 8, 2017
Thanking @Rex for his reply, I'll summarize my feedback (given in many forum posts and some card comments) like so.
I'll say that, basically, for me the new XXX format is ok.
But I hope to see some adjustements, such as:
return of the first little clip introducing the model
some more XXX clips
much more sound, e.g. having it at least in all "table" clips
finally, at least one clip with toy pro card
Thanks to the Team for the attention.
KatzPaw
Da In Apr 2015

395 post(s)
May 8, 2017
@Rex Thanks for the acknowledgment that the team is listening :)

Anyway to work in the pole in Table scenes? :o

One of the things I dislike about the standing clips is when they drop down to the table and stay awhile, the action is small. If the clips were broken down into scenes like before, the models could do all the sexy stripping and when they drop down to the table segue into a table clip associated with those clips for a xxx finish to that scene. That clip could be shot with the other table clips. Just something I wanted to throw out there, although with shooting 6 cards, this may not be ideal in terms of production time.
JuicEeLM
Da In May 2010

31 post(s)
August 14, 2020
@Rex:
strippers won’t work with us, nor do cam-girls
But how many such girls did you ask? Are you sure they realized you were making them a serious offer from a serious company? And that it doesn't involve anything more than stripping and dancing. Sometimes it's all about how you make the presentation. Stripping and dancing should be comfortable for a stripper or camgirl, as long as they understand exactly what you are offering them. If you find a way to make that work, it can be a real game changer for you.

That's funny nowdays.. now it's all about them fingering and using dildos. Ah how I miss the OLD days of just dancing and striping :(
TheEmu
Da In Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
August 14, 2020 (edited)
@JuicEeLM

It seems strange to me as well but it does seem to be true that girls that work as strippers, in regular clubs, do not want to appear on the internet. @Wyldanimal says that he tried to set up a website/business that promoted strippers but found the same thing as @Rex - in the main these girls seem to want to remain relatively anonymous. As a simple experiment try a web search for people who will perform as strippers as opposed to those who will do harder porn - when I tried a few years ago I found very few strippers.

As far as webcam girls are concerned it seems that they can make more money staying at home than by appearing here, so why should they sacrifice two days plus travelling time with the associated loss of regular earnings to appear here?
pantalone
Da In Nov 2010

224 post(s)
August 14, 2020
As far as webcam girls are concerned it seems that they can make more money staying at home than by appearing here, so why should they sacrifice two days plus travelling time with the associated loss of regular earnings to appear here?

Web profile? Each new follower is disproportionately valuable to cam girls. And many of them pay a lot to hosting sites, so modelling can remain attractive to them.

As for dancers, strippers and escorts, they've lost their income since lockdown, which was probably why Totem's scouting visit to Crazy Horse generated so many new faces. I'd guess a few more Paris-based girls will filter through in the coming months.

The problem is that Totem's strategy of recruiting from Ukraine and sometimes Russia or Belarus has failed, because of international travel bans. But the underlying economic differential between those countries and the West remains, so we should be back to normal when the borders reopen.

With respect to fingers-and-dildos, the xxx cards have been 40% of Totem's business for several years now and I can't see why it should change. We have seen an increase in masturbation-seconds in many recent cards and stripteases that have been somewhat perfunctory, but it's still in a minority of cards and over half of the show is still stripping and dancing.
TheEmu
Da In Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
August 14, 2020 (edited)
With respect to fingers-and-dildos, the xxx cards have been 40% of Totem's business for several years now and I can't see why it should change. We have seen an increase in masturbation-seconds in many recent cards and stripteases that have been somewhat perfunctory, but it's still in a minority of cards and over half of the show is still stripping and dancing.

I am not so sure about that. Previously the Deskbabes (iStripperXXX classic) cards tended to have far more XXX action than we see now in iStripperXXX. Initially the change from Deskbabes to iStripperXXX resulted is a radical decrease in XXX content (which I welcomed, but others *****) and this was then followed by an increase in XXX content but to still well below that which was normal for Deskbabes. I assume the changes were driven by sales figures.
JuicEeLM
Da In May 2010

31 post(s)
August 14, 2020
I just miss the way the girls used to be genuine an happy and a lil teasing and sometimes shy even. Like Melisa! Then her newer cards I see shes finger banging herself too an my heart just sank. It's like all the innocence of very beautiful women sultry striping on your desktop is almost gone now.. there are still SOME that capture this companys essence when it first came out but, they are far and few between..

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