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I the cage here to stay?

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shodan084
Da In Dec 2007

1652 post(s)
March 8, 2013
I don't mind it unless it starts to dominate a show, or if it turns into some kind of s&m fest... but if you turn a cage round to an opening, doesn't it become a cubicle?;)
I wouldn't get rid of the taskbar shots too, it's a good way of getting 'up close and personal' with the girls. What I have noticed is a shortage of girls that 'pop up' into view very close to the camera over the taskbar, I miss those...
Apasas
Da In Aug 2009

1038 post(s)
March 8, 2013
I was against the cage when it was first suggested and my view hasn't changed. I believed it obscures the view and this seems to be proved right.

I don't really see the point of having the cage open. A background would better.

However, like others I believe the cage could be a good theme prop for say prisoner, S&M and even some fantasy costumes. But it it is not appropriate for most cards. (Neither is the pole, but the pole is unobtrusive).

I think the problem is that in bars, the cage is used in a different way. The bars are there to show where the edge of the floor is so they don't fall off (irrelevant to VGHD) without obscuring the view of the punters. It is not meant to be a prison fantasy (although sometimes it may be). Also the point of the cage is that the viewer can see it from any angle, something that is not possible in VGHD. So VGHD doesn't benefit from the very advantages that make the cage worth using in a club.

The other use if the cage is the S&M fantasy. But that is not appropriate for many cards. When you have a school or office theme card, how is a cage appropriate? I don't see it.

Unlike the pole, the cage does not add enough benefits to be used for every card, in my opinion.
Starryk
Da In Nov 2008

1847 post(s)
March 8, 2013
I think we have seen some nice cage clips for example by Isizzu. They can use the bars to steady themselves when putting a leg up. And sometimes its also a nice tease when something is hidden by the bar.
I really like Rex announcement here that finally he recognized that not every show needs to have pole clips and not every show needs to have cage clips.
This gives me hope for more variety in the future with girls being able to show their strengths in the shows.
Example: Cherry Kiss was perfect standing, good on pole and ok on taskbar. So more standing clips would have been better there.
habsfan
Da In Dec 2010

66 post(s)
March 8, 2013
For us old farts,the cage brings back memories of the go-go dancers of the past.For me it's a nice addition.imho
LOVERBOY1
Da In Dec 2009

118 post(s)
March 8, 2013 (edited)
Imagine for a moment that in all future pole clips every dancer will dance behind the pole and rarely, if ever, come out from behind it. Do you think there might be complaints?! But wait, that's not all. The pole will actually be made a little bigger in diameter and so short that artists like Suzie Q can't use it. Hmm! There's more! If the view of the girls isn't blocked enough by dancing behind one pole, it's decided that there should be not just one but three poles close together in front of the girls and so close that squeezing between them is difficult! No spins, no twirls, no acrobatics ... Wait a second ... isn't that a lot like ... the CAGE?

I think we all have our favorite types of clips. I know I do. I MUCH prefer standing and pole clips (with dancing!) over any of the taskbar types but I do enjoy the closeup views the taskbar brings and can find enjoyment in them, particularly as so many others perhaps prefer them. That's the thing: it's the view of beautiful women I love and I don't enjoy having it blocked in the way the cage can't help but do and in an unprecedented way. The more cage clips there are, the fewer other clips there can be.

I appreciate that some enjoy being transported to an earlier time with a personally enjoyable ambiance. And that others perhaps have a prison fetish or punishment fetish or S&M fetish or maybe not any fetish but just a little taste of those things. Personally, I ***** them and I need not go into just how much or why. But as long as the view isn't blocked and there isn't too much of it, I can be tolerant.

I don't want anyone to be deprived entirely of something they really, really enjoy or crave - just don't block or obscure my view!

Perhaps, make the cage clips like the big black chair clips - few and far between!
BigSteve
Da In Dec 2007

131 post(s)
March 8, 2013
I totally agree with Loverboy1, and I hope this poll remains open long enough for a large number of negative votes to be recorded.

However, one thing this forum has taught me is that some of the things that I really ***** are the very things that a significant number of others really love. It takes all kinds, and no one's preferences are wrong. I'm encouraged that Rex has said that the cage will be used only sparingly.
kutta
Da In Nov 2007

144 post(s)
March 8, 2013
Apasas, I agree with you 100%. It's not that I don't like the idea of the cage, I think it suits well for certain cards suggesting ***** role-play but it shouldn't be done in every card.

The biggest issue I see is it's obtrusive, just like how furniture was used in the past (thanks god not as much anymore). It's a large object on my screen I don't want getting in the way of the content we are here to see!
Starryk
Da In Nov 2008

1847 post(s)
March 8, 2013 (edited)
For all the cage ***** here: Carmens show is without cage clips. The only show of the recent release that has cage clips is Lena Loves show.
szalka
Da In Apr 2010

1864 post(s)
March 8, 2013
In my opinion as not two same people as not two equal tastes. One person love the taskbar scenes with the girls' dancing, one person love the girls moving around teh strip bar, one person love their when in close shot they are show themselves. Just the same others adore for the cage scenes. I mostly like the close scenes but I don't ***** why are here the cage scenes. I think need for all version, but one can not go to the expense of another type.
My reflections:
1.)
I think the cage too small to duos - in my opinion in duo cards can be new solution that: one of the girls is in the cage and the other girl is outside.
2.)
If the cage in the DB cards it would be better if the girls not wearing shoes too strong the shoes' noise, but if they are naked feet less the noise.
Pookie231
Da In Oct 2008

2 post(s)
March 9, 2013
I am respectfully requesting all my loyal fellow members to take part in this poll. If making comment is not your cup of tea then please just vote your preference at the top of this column. Your opinion matters and will most certainly be taken into consideration. Thank You!
The3LeggedMan
Da In Feb 2010

369 post(s)
March 9, 2013 (edited)
Personally I dislike the use of the cage. To me the cage represents our mental, physical and spiritual confinement to the self-mutilating system of societal norms. Even when given the chance to break free and create our own destiny, most of us retreat back into the safety and comfort of our proverbial cages and watch as life passes by. We are chained by our own self-imposed limitations, while the key to open our cage and unleash our fullest potential rests inside the keyhole, ready to be turned. But it never does because the uncertainty of life holds us back. So we sit in our cages, content with the measly cramped space we have to ourselves, as the true meaning of freedom fades from memory.
Cartref
MODERATORE
Da In Sep 2007

520 post(s)
March 9, 2013
I find it rather interesting that so few people have indicated that they realise tastes differ and they they are willing to put up with a few things they do not enjoy, because they know other people do enjoy them.

The majority seem to be of the view "stuff the others, get rid of something because I don't like it and give me more of what I like".

Now if we all took that attitude seriously Totem may as well close up shop because they will never produce anything that is loved by everyone.

My own tastes differ but like CV I don't make a fuss, even though it has cost me more of the cards that I enjoy most.
Rex
ATTREZZATURA
Da In Sep 2007

364 post(s)
March 9, 2013
Adding anything new to VirtuaGirl is always tricky and its difficult to get things right right away, that's why we have the forum to get feedback. Cage seemed a good idea, we already tuned production reading the first comments and will continue to do that. I really believe using the pole and the cage only when it make sense is among they keys. Both have to be a nice surprise and not mandatory to every card.
member84392371
Da In Oct 2009

1323 post(s)
March 9, 2013 (edited)
I agree with most replies in the thread. Starting this poll was only meant to see how people stand towards the cage now that it's been used a couple of times. Variety is always a good thing, and Totem is doing a good job at that, using various items like fitness equipment, cars, bathtubs and now a cage. One thing that makes Totem great is the way feedback from the users is taken into consideration, let's not forget the cage was introduced based on user feedback.
Apasas
Da In Aug 2009

1038 post(s)
March 9, 2013
I really appreciate the interaction from Rex VGHD. And Rex's response on Saturday morning too!!!

I commend Totem for trying new things. And I commend Totem for allowing us to vigorously discuss these things.

I am not a fan of the cage. But as CB says, some models may use it inventively and may make it appealing. In the end it's just like any prop.
MrBeeKeeper
Da In Jul 2012

293 post(s)
March 9, 2013 (edited)
@The3LeggedMan, very well said... Thank you!

I think the problem we have may be that there's no opportunity to choose right now what to download for the particular card.
If I really don't like the cage, I do not have to explain why. I just don't have to download it and that's all ];-)
Deleting or disabling these clips later via Clip Selector (this option is not for everyone) is just an alternate exit, not a solution - more flexibility would be a very good in the future I guess.
cupidostar
Da In May 2011

69 post(s)
March 9, 2013 (edited)
like the old way more, so not for me, let's get rid of it ASAP.
it's just not sexy.
Starryk
Da In Nov 2008

1847 post(s)
March 9, 2013
Rex said
[...] I really believe using the pole and the cage only when it make sense is among they keys. Both have to be a nice surprise and not mandatory to every card.

That is really great news. We have seen so many shows with mediocre pole clips. So often i would have wished that the pole clips would not have been mandatory for each show no matter how talented or maybe even scared the model is of it.
Now to read these word from the Boss is just fantastic. This should really help to get better shows.
shodan084
Da In Dec 2007

1652 post(s)
March 9, 2013
Having said what I said, my first play of 'Honey Bunny' she popped up from behind the task bar close to the camera... so I'm eating my words...;)
robbanzjo
Da In Mar 2012

339 post(s)
March 10, 2013
I did vote "I don't mind/care" on this one because i dont really know what to think of it.

I dont really mind the cage actually but at the same time im not the biggest fan of it either tho.

Its always nice to se that they test some new things and either if they decide to take it away or not it wont really matter that much to me.
Barley
Da In Nov 2011

81 post(s)
March 26, 2013
I dont like the cage.
alerte
Da In May 2008

6501 post(s)
April 10, 2013
hello, i say no if there are in all shows.
Schoggiweggli
Da In Aug 2008

4 post(s)
February 15, 2014
I ***** it, blocks the view.
MattBFreq3
Da In Oct 2008

610 post(s)
March 9, 2014
Going on from the thread I created about Alyssa Reeces Cosmopolitan card and the use of the cage, I think the cage is a good idea when used in the right way with the right themes. Its also good to see these different props used to titillate you in a different way, and the cage provides that for me with the models hiding bits of their body behind the bars and revealing themselves again. It also provides a way of telling a kind of story with their moves and the overall theme from their outfits, although some themes do work better than others.

Having said that I wouldn't like to see the cage over used and be in too many clips as I think you need a good balance of different clips to keep the viewer interested.
Hemingford
Da In Oct 2013

178 post(s)
June 8, 2014
I voted no. Really don't like that cage...

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