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Do I like the new line of VGHD.....

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mvpsome
Da In Feb 2008

191 post(s)
August 12, 2010
Thanks mate, I will give her one chance for sure after your opinion :) . For sure the community of VG is way much better that the product itself :)
Starryk
Da In Nov 2008

1848 post(s)
August 13, 2010
For those who want more entertainment and less explicitness in VG the new Jasmine show might be of interest. It focusses on Dancing. (For stripping she doesn't wear enough to start with;-))
mvpsome
Da In Feb 2008

191 post(s)
August 20, 2010 (edited)
Totem, please - can you give some clothes to strippers to wear, so they can actually strip on my desktop. How they can strip if they dont have clothes at first place?!? What is that mania to bikini suits you demonstrate in last months.

With every new week releases on VGHD and DB the state is become more and more ridiculous. I refuse to buy anything!
Amelly
Da In Jan 2008

384 post(s)
August 21, 2010
Stan's message is completely sensible.
Here, there are many selfish people who want to see what they want without thinking what is really possible for the team and models.
@mvpsome, if you do not want to buy new cards because you're frustrated by the lack of clothing available for your tastes, nothing prevents you from going elsewhere because the blackmail does not work here ...
Ricky78
Da In Apr 2010

274 post(s)
August 22, 2010 (edited)
Hello!
First of all, I want to say I`m not "frustrated" or "selfish",But I share opinion of @mvpsome about "bikini mania".
I think Totem exagerates with "bra and bikini".
I mean I looked in the last 2 months(32 cards) of released cards and I saw too many bras and bikinis and ONLY a few outfits(you can`t count the short skirts).Don`t get me wrong.I like bra and bikini but this is too much allready.Of course I will continue to buy cards(bra and bikini)IF the girl is on my taste,but I will not buy if one girl has 2 cards with bra and bikini(same girl) from now on.I will be more carefull at cards of the same model.I didn`t check too much untill now ,but when I see you start exagerate with bras and bikinis I will be more carefull.

"We are in summer and we shoot what the models bring"
I understand your point of view Stanze about summer season,but this isn`t an excuse for exagerated "bras and bikinis".Is hard to believe that models travel at Paris in bra and bikini and from your sentence I understand they come with empty hands.
IF you could talk with them to bring some sexy outfits from their personal collection it would be great.Is hard to believe also models don`t have some sexy outfits.I mean in this case you avoid the posibility to not match your clothes with the models size.And as we know clothes are something personal.I want to say I can`t wear others clothes only if it is necessary(and only if they are clean of course:P)
SO,ONE SOLUTION WILL BE TO BRING MODELS SOME SEXY OUTFITS FROM HOME.

Why can`t you have some sexy outfits like:
Sarah-Royal Suite
Sarah-Student party
Satin Bloom-Satin Dreams
Satin Bloom-Pure Gold
Kami-Peppermint
for example??(I searched only in the newest released cards)(I liked those very much).You can do better ,I`m sure of it and you can find other sexy outfits like those.Of course the model who wear those outfits is very important(she must be incredible beautiful) and untill now Sarah,Satin Bloom,Kami prouved that thing(good choice of them to wear those outfits)

Another thing that I noticed based on other posts of the members is that models don`t take out their stockings.I mean they are full naked but they continue to wear those stockings.Why`s that?? I never understood and I don`t like this.I mean I want to see those stockings off also.

In general,I like the new line of VGHD but I had only that remark(exagerated bras and bikinis).Believe me everytime when I will not like something I will come here with new posts:))))

SO,A DIVERISITY OF SEXY OUTFITS(SOME NIGHT DRESSES FOR EXAMPLE WHERE WE CAN SEE SOME BEAUTIFUL LEGS)AND NOT ONLY EXAGERATED BRAS AND BIKINIS IT WILL IMPROUVE MUCH BETTER THE IMAGE OF VGHD.

@Amelly isn`t fair what are you doing("@mvpsome, if you do not want to buy new cards because you're frustrated by the lack of clothing available for your tastes, nothing prevents you from going elsewhere because the blackmail does not work here ...")
Everyone is free to say their opinions and Stanze said very well("Your opinion is yours and good for to debate about that. All cristicism is interesting for trying to make better.")

It isn`t about "frustrated" or "selfish" people @Amelly.It`s all about opinions.It seems you didn`t understand that thing @Amelly.From your message I could understand IF someone don`t have the same opinion like yours it means he(she) is frustrated and selfish.

Have a nice day all

Ricky78





Oquijan
Da In May 2009

1536 post(s)
August 23, 2010
@mvpsome. Thanks for the extra details. I'm sure some other girls or shows will be nice for you in the future.

@Amelly This place is for debating VG topics. It's ok to agree or disagree with a topic or a user views, but telling other guy to shut up and go elsewhere it's not debating, pal, it's you just trying to impose your own point of view upon others. If you're a fanboy that excuses everything, you can be a supporter without bossing around other users.

mvpsome
Da In Feb 2008

191 post(s)
August 23, 2010 (edited)
@Stanzeflasher - I partially understand your point of view.... First of all - I am very grateful that you get my opinion and not firing some bullets towards my head :)
Secondly - I checked last 38 cards and in 18 outfit is bikini/bra (in about 7-8 other cards the outfit is some kind of gym/swim/lingerie - again nothing to strip). Writing these numbers - they dont look too worst, but I am still frustrated from that outfit. Probably if I was checked these numbers in first place - I will not be so affected to write a post about it, just will pass it away... but anyway - now we are discussing of that :)

About shooting of shows - ok, I understand that (I am amateur photographer and I am working with models too), but you can deal with that heat and all other technical troubles if you want to stay Number One. I know - now everyone try to cut expenses as much as possible, but IMO your product is becoming boring in that point of view (outfits, choreography, props). Btw - we are discussing shows released in May-Aug time frame and they must be shoot around Feb-May time frame, which is winter/spring in my part of the world and I am pretty sure you are shooting in same hemisphere ;) . What we can expect around Christmas - strippers without bikini? ;) ..... ok, sorry, I was not able to stop myself on that :) .

So, seriously - I am really try to choose what is better for my joy of your product (as you advice me), but in last 4-5 months there is nothing which fit in my taste, and that make me very sad (and in some cases very frustrated) I have "invested" so much in your product ;) and now for half year you offer things that I dont like (from around 70 shows). In old days (and "old"/original style of VGHD) with easy I like about half of these 70 shows and can find for very attractive about at least 10 shows.

@Ricky78 and @Oquijan - thank you for expressing my exact thoughts towards Amelly "opinion".

@Oquijan - that future is never coming... we discuss it a lot here (in last months I even stop to discuss it), but since "bottle" case we get mostly boring shows in VGHD and some boring hardcore lesbo action in DB. Nothing in my taste
:(
Rex
ATTREZZATURA
Da In Sep 2007

364 post(s)
August 23, 2010
@mvpsome I see your point about too many bikinis, I asked Philippe to slow down a bit. We're also reorganising the way we manage outfits and are going to use again some of the best VirtuaGirl 2 outfits that we still have because most VGHD users never saw them. Suzy is now coaching every girl on the pole and we made a few attemps with a different director (see Lola & Laeticia in DB) to bring new *****. I just bought new accessories, including Liberator pillow to keep things interesting.

It's not an easy thing to be inventive all them time when you release so many girls (and also have to deal with their moods and more). We've very open to ideas and suggestions, please keep them coming!
lordbaelish
Da In Feb 2008

31 post(s)
August 23, 2010
Hey, if you need more inventiveness then I'm more than happy to quit my job and start working for you. I'm full of ideas. :p
mvpsome
Da In Feb 2008

191 post(s)
August 23, 2010 (edited)
Thank you Rex for your nice words :) ... Today I just spend my second ticket (buying one old show) since very long time as result of nice words of @Stanze and probably foreseeing your opinion :) .

Anyway... what can I say... hope for you guys at Totem that its only me and majority of users still buy many cards (as I was buying in the past). Otherwise that change of VGHD style is waste.

You are good manager Rex ;) ... telling us a good words in every few months, extinguish the fires and try to keep product alive and interesting to many people. But every time you promise us something new and interesting we have to wait at least 3-4 months till we see what it was comes out of your idea/change. And personally for me that process is running for 18 months till now. And that is too much.
And the only thing currently keeping me here is that you still dont have alternative (yes Amelly, VG dont have alternative and I cant go somewhere else, believe me I was try).

I am one of the users who never seen the VG2 outfits, because I am not owner of any shows there. So - give us more "classic" and classy look of the shows - you had such unique and interesting style... mixing different outfits, different props, and different styles of models... and now - almost all of that is gone. I am not saying that all old shows are great and must have, but I am watching and have on my hard drive about half of old shows and almost none of new (from last 6 months). Give us chic look of models, give us next door look, give us mystic look, ... anyway, we had discuss that about half year ago, when you ask us to define tasteful erotic.

At bottom line - maybe around Christmas me personally will enjoy your new shows again as I enjoy of my old shows.... maybe not, who knows - only time will show. You ask me(and rest of us) for a faith credit (not sure there is such expression in English as in Bulgarian) ... sure I can give that, what else I can do? :)
Ricky78
Da In Apr 2010

274 post(s)
August 26, 2010

Great idea Rex to bring back the best outfits of VG2(I`m also like @mvpsome a user who never seen the VG2 outfits),but I hope you`ll not exagerate with outfits of VG2.
You could fall down in the other side(plenty VIP users are old VG2 members).
I mean I want to see the best outfits of VG2 but also I want to see NEW outfits.

I must tell you(TOTEM)that I`m not satisfied with the CASTING of the new girls in general(you have SOME NEW gorgeus girls is true but they are only few)(and to have this opinion I looked at all those polls on new girls from CASTING FORUM and I didn`t like it what I saw).What I see with sadness is that almost all of those polls have a majority who answered with YES(so,I take the conclusion that I will see them on VG).The only poll with majority NO is about controversed Shione Cooper,but it seems Totem will give her a chance. Most of them have pretty faces( I can`t say one girl is ugly from the NEW selection),but to have JUST a pretty face (not gorgeous),will not convince me to buy the cards.THE PICTURES OF STANZE HELP ME A LOT TO FIGURE OUT WHICH CARDS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BUY(THANKS STANZE FOR THAT).
Of course,except to have a gorgeous face(the most important condition to convince me to buy the cards),the other things(also important) are:
  • the outfit
  • the body(the curves,the legs,the ass,the breasts-doesn`t matter so much as long as the girl is beautiful)
  • the hair style
  • the make-up
  • the interest of one performer to do one card
  • the REAL performance of the girl(NOT THE FAKE performance that I saw in some shows)((I remember that I was very upset at the beginning of my subscription when I received many cards in too short time of Melisa and Morgane,but when I see now the fake performance of SOME NEW girls,I start to regret them(Melisa and Morgane)that I will not see them with new sets o
Ricky78
Da In Apr 2010

274 post(s)
August 26, 2010 (edited)
Great idea Rex to bring back the best outfits of VG2(I`m also like @mvpsome a user who never seen the VG2 outfits),but I hope you`ll not exagerate with outfits of VG2.
You could fall down in the other side(plenty VIP users are old VG2 members).
I mean I want to see the best outfits of VG2 but also I want to see NEW outfits.

I must tell you(TOTEM)that I`m not satisfied with the CASTING of the new girls in general(you have SOME NEW gorgeus girls is true but they are only few)(and to have this opinion I looked at all those polls on new girls from CASTING FORUM and I didn`t like it what I saw).What I see with sadness is that almost all of those polls have a majority who answered with YES(so,I take the conclusion that I will see them on VG).The only poll with majority NO is about controversed Shione Cooper,but it seems Totem will give her a chance. Most of them have pretty faces( I can`t say one girl is ugly from the NEW selection),but to have JUST a pretty face (not gorgeous),will not convince me to buy the cards.
Of course,except to have a gorgeous face(the most important condition to convince me to buy the cards),the other things(also important) are:
  • the outfit
  • the body(the curves,the legs,the ass,the breasts-doesn`t matter so much as long as the girl is beautiful)
  • the hair style
  • the make-up
  • the interest of one performer to do one card
  • the REAL performance of the girl(NOT THE FAKE performance that I saw in some shows)((I remember that I was very upset at the beginning of my subscription when I received many cards in too short time of Melisa and Morgane,but when I see now the fake performance of SOME NEW girls,I start to regret them(Melisa and Morgane)that I will not see them with new sets of cards.)
  • the REAL smile(NOT THE FAKE smile that I saw in some shows.

Another thing that I see with sadness at new casting girls is that the size of the boobs is more important than the face.In the past of old line of VGHD this thing never happened.Of course are SOME NEW gorgeous girls with great boobs(although they are fake)
I like almost all kinds of boobs(small,medium,big-fake or real,but not huge) as long as the girl is beautiful.

I know REX is impossible to please ALL people and all the time will be some unpleased users.The point is to have unpleased members as less as possible.
You must find a midway solution and I know you`ll find it because you are a good manager.I`m sure you can handle this.

SO,IN CONCLUSION, TO ANSWER AT THIS QUESTION`S FORUM "DO I LIKE THE NEW LINE OF VGHD?"
HMMM!hARD TO SAY
GENERALLY SPEAKING,I LIKE THE NEW LINE OF VGHD,BUT I CAN`T SAY THAT I`M VERY IMPRESSED(WITH A BIG PLUS OF TOTEM FOR THE NEW EQUIPMENT AND THE 3 BIG MINUSES FOR SELECTIONS OF THE GIRLS,FOR OUTFITS AND FOR THE PERFORMANCE OF SOME NEW GIRLS)

IF I COMPARE THE NEW LINE OF VGHD WITH THE OLD LINE OF VGHD,I START SHARE OPINION OF @MVPSOME(THE NEW LINE OF VGHD IT ISN`T WHAT IT USED TO BE THE OLD LINE OF VGHD)
I WILL GIVE ONLY SOME ARGUMENTS.THE SELECTIONS OF THE GIRLS WERE MORE GREAT,THE OUTFITS WERE MORE GREAT,THE SHOWS(THE PERFORMANCE OF THE GIRLS) WERE MORE GREAT.

P.S.
ALL THAT I SAID ABOVE IS STRICTLY MY OPINION BASED ON MY TASTE ABOUT VGHD PRODUCT.

Edit:
Sorry for my double post.At the beginning, this post was too long and gave me one error.That`s why I must cutted some parts to be more shorter.
mvpsome
Da In Feb 2008

191 post(s)
August 26, 2010
You are quite right Ricky, I havent think on that before, but after reading your opinion - I understand one major turn off and disappointment for me from new shows - they are just looking too fake and unnatural.

I still enjoy watching old "secretary" shows and still thinking "hey, can I have such secretary in my office?" :) .

Or Devine shows and thinking "hey, it will be wonderful if I met such girl outside on the street while I am going to a lunch"

or .... well, I will stop and will not continue with some mind-blowing shows of my favorites.

They are just shows with soul inside, you can feel it. Girls are playing roles to please you and to make you dreaming for that role. On the other side - most of new shows dont have anything like that, they are just almost naked girls, doing what they have told to do, or not doing anything - just arriving and fading away without any single moment to remember or dream about it! Said with one word - BORING!
mvpsome
Da In Feb 2008

191 post(s)
January 27, 2011
Rex, what happens with your statement about bikini/lingerie mania? 157 days after your statement I dont see any signs of change.

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