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You're kidding... how come the progressive redraw is the only game available for the first week.

Hello Team Totem. Why are you releasing 3 SEC cards in one day?
I have loved and supported Virtuagirl / StripSaver / iStripper since the beginning, but I have to say that I have really disliked your implementation of gambling style mechanics in your software. The hard push of SECs and iDolz is a major dissapointment (for me at least), but I guess that it's just about money at the end of the day.
:-/

You're kidding... how come the progressive redraw is the only game available for the first week.

This is how Summer Sale works

Hello Team Totem. Why are you releasing 3 SEC cards in one day?I have loved and supported Virtuagirl / StripSaver / iStripper since the beginning, but I have to say that I have really disliked your implementation of gambling style mechanics in your software. The hard push of SECs and iDolz is a major dissapointment (for me at least), but I guess that it's just about money at the end of the day.:-/

No. Ryana and Sky Pierce where the Special Event cards to win during the 2 weeks of the Summer Crazy week.
Now that the Summer crazy week is over, these 2 Special Event Cards are available to be exchanged against a joker card, which was not the case during the event.

The Special Event Card of Elle Mira is your target in your progression bar during all July's Summer Sale.

Hello Celine. Thank you for clearing that up.

@fallen0ne,
me too.
You're absolutely right. 3 SEC's at one day are simply indecent. Instead to install iDolz and publishing unobtainable card they should realize a really working customer service that really helps in case of troubles. And these gambling games should be submitted to a competent authority. One more disappointment for old loyal customers.
I'm very sad . . . 😟😟😟

Instead to install iDolz

What is iDolz? That doesn't exist. It's called Dolz.

And as @celine said just two posts above yours:
No. Ryana and Sky Pierce where the Special Event cards to win during the 2 weeks of the Summer Crazy week.
Now that the Summer crazy week is over, these 2 Special Event Cards are available to be exchanged against a joker card, which was not the case during the event.

The Special Event Card of Elle Mira is your target in your progression bar during all July's Summer Sale.

So a person can exchange two obscenely expensive Special Event Cards that they just got for 1 Joker card (now they can purchase 1 old SEC). Is that supposed to be exciting?

Oh were you supposed to win both SEC's at the same time on the progression bar. If so I missed that and that would make more sense then to trade them for a joker card. I had no idea there were two cards being offered. There should have been 2 cards showing beside the progress bar.

then asked differently: where is the selling part? I don't see a "July's summer sale" here, "July's summer gambling" is more appropriate here

@Mrauder06,
The current game is a sale.
Pay to draw new cards (pinning what one likes). One credit each draw.
The very first draw is already 20% off. That is a discount.
The game goes up by fours to 56% off.

So a person can exchange two obscenely expensive Special Event Cards that they just got for 1 Joker card (now they can purchase 1 old SEC). Is that supposed to be exciting?

@Stripargo - no!

What @ullubu was saying was that now the event is over, you can use a Joker card to acquire either of the two SECs - an option that was not available during the event.

It is not 3 SE cards in one day but 3 SE cards in 3 weeks. Rayna on 16.06, Sky Pierce on 23.06 and Elle Mira on 30.06. I think it is a lot in one month.

It is not 3 SE cards in one day but 3 SE cards in 3 weeks. Rayna on 16.06, Sky Pierce on 23.06 and Elle Mira on 30.06. I think it is a lot in one month.

Et si vous pensez que la dernière est celle de tout le mois de Juillet, cela allonge quelque peu la période 😄

And if you think the last is the one for the whole month of July, that lengthens the period somewhat 😄

Yay Summer Sale... Oh wait...

"Very deep dissappointed sigh"
No sales on display...
Just.. again.. another gambling option..
So one can possibly win/buy a discount.. or two.

Perhaps at the very least stop calling them sales already.

There are no sales or discounts. The benefits of the games are mainly for Totem. They're not there to give away. If this weren't the case, games and SECs, as they are used now, wouldn't exist.

Spending credits unnecessarily (as there are inevitably more losers than winners for the participants), leads them to buy further credits to complete the progress bar, and finally get the prize at the end (Sec or gift card). This increase in credit purchases is profitable for Totem.

This is the very nature of gambling. Games are mostly for the benefit of those who organize them.

There have been real discounts in the past, with TGIF offers such as in January 2018.
Weekend promo: Enjoy -16% on shows in the "Babydoll" category.
But those days are over. Everything happens in games now.

That said, people are adults. So it's up to you to choose whether or not to play, and to spend your credits in the best possible way, to your advantage.


En effet, il n'y a aucun solde ou rabais dans cela. Les avantages avec les jeux, se sont surtout Totem qui en profite. Ils ne sont pas là pour faire des cadeaux. Si ce n'était pas le cas, les jeux et les SEC, de la façon qu'elles sont utilisées maintenant n'existeraient pas.

De faire dépenser des crédits inutilement (car forcément il y a plus de perdants que de gagnants pour les participants), les ammène à acheter d'autres crédits pour terminer la barre de progression pour finalement avoir le prix à la fin (Sec ou carte cadeau). Cette augmentation des achats de crédits est rentable pour Totem.

C'est la nature même du "gambling". Les jeux sont surtout à l'avantage de celui qui les organise.

Il y a déjà eu de vrais rabais par le passé, avec des offres du TGIF comme par exemple en janvier 2018.
Promo du week-end : Profitez de -16% sur les shows de la catégorie "Babydoll".
Mais cette époque est révolue. Tout se passe dans les jeux maintenant.

Ceci étant, les gens sont adultes. Alors c'est à vous de choisir de jouer ou non et de dépenser vos crédits de la meilleure façon possible, pour que ce soit avantageux pour vous.

Yes, thank you for stating the obvious.

I'm accutely aware of how things have changed since 2008,
doesn't mean I'm just going to roll over, accept it and be happy about it.
I will express myself as many times as I need to feel justified everytime a sale like this happens,
with nothing actually being on sale.

But if it makes you feel any better, I'll accept defeat entirely when they stop calling it a sale!

Sale: Available for Purchase at a Reduced Price.

I think being able to purchase cards or card packs, with a discounted Price
Meets the Definition of a Sale.

Thus, "Summer Sale" is appropriate.

nothing actually being on sale.

The software would agree with this statement as selecting the 'sale' tab in the 'Girls Store' shows *nothing* is actually on sale. So it is safe to say there is no sale currently. I frequently think Totem uses words and phrases incorrectly but I don't fault them as their english is far better than my french.

It's not a sale; I'm waiting for a sale (and a better overall feeling about IS) before I buy back in.

If it never happens then so be it.

I think that the current game easily qualifies as a sale in that it provides discounts on selected items.

Ok .. fair, I'll admit there are things on sale.

But only after the fact that I now must play games and jump through a variation of loopholes,
which I have to pay for first to cover the costs that allow me to access those sales.

Look.. I get it, I'm just somewhat dissappointed and frustrated about the way it now works...
If I ever become rich.. ..
Actually nevermind, forget I said anything.. never gonna happen either..

Look.. I get it, I'm just somewhat dissappointed and frustrated about the way it now works...

I don't like it either - but if you are going to criticise something it is best, and far more effective, to criticise a real fault rather than an imaginary one.

Ok .. fair, I'll admit there are things on sale.

According to the IS girl store tab nothing is on sale and anyone that tells you otherwise has a different interpitation of 'sale' at the very least.

I don't know anything about the Summer Sale game and while it may be possible to get cards at a discount, I doubt I personally would consider it a 'sale'. In the end it has nothing to do with imagination only what one considers an actual 'sale'. Some obviously consider any kind of discount a sale but according to the IS sale tab in the Girl Store nothing is on sale.

Random cards at a discount is not a sale to me but others might consider it a sale - I respect either interpitation.

Persective vs imagination

I don't know anything about the Summer Sale game

You can very easily correct that by reading its "help" text.

and while it may be possible to get cards at a discount

It is, see the same help text.

For me the important aspect of a sale is that a selection of goods are offered at a lower price than they have previously been offered.

Personally I would not have used the word sale - but that is because I think it is a poor choice not an incorrect one.

Personally I would not have used the word sale - but that is because I think it is a poor choice not an incorrect one.

I can agree with that, I may have .. in my frustration lost my wording a bit.
Also I agree with your perspective on what a sale is, a selection of goods for a lower price on offer.
Which in my perspective means a service or product for cheaper than the original price,
or in other words a discount.

But to get discounts, I now have to first give money to the man at the door.
Which I guess is the real issue for me, not so much the meaning of a sale.

Most of the time it's not much, but it can add up for people who don't have a lot of money.
Especially if said discounts aren't ones that you want, because of the randomness of it.

The sale tab is now useless because it does not list any more discounts,
especially with all these gambling events and other weird games.
I still say they could and probably should use both options to reap more benefits in general.

But to get discounts, I now have to first give money to the man at the door.

I have seen that in real life sales either as an entrance fee or as a preliminary qualification to buy something else.

I don't know the current game and don't want to. I don't play. On the other hand, maybe we should stop kidding ourselves. Games are gambling. It's not a sale.

As we've already said, games are a way for totem to sell off its old cards, which wouldn't sell outside of games, as well as making people spend credits, with the aim of getting people to buy them again. It's profitable for them to do this. It's a win-win situation.

And the bait is the SEC card. A card that has absolutely nothing more than a so-called regular card.

This isn't a select club where you have to pay an entrance fee to become a member and be entitled to privileges.

The privileges here are that, the more cards you buy, the less they cost, depending on the level you've reached. This is how the program is structured.

Games of chance have appeared in recent years, with SECs as a lure to increase Totem's profits, and are in no way sales. There are a few winners and a lot of losers, as is the case with all games of chance.

I find, for example, that it's already costing me enough to be a Premium member and to have bought all the cards that could be purchased at Totem, in addition to the VR Shows, without having the privilege of being able to buy the SECs outside the games. Even at a higher cost.

The games are mostly to Totem's advantage. And the discounts in these games aren't real discounts, if you can't choose the cards, as was the case in some of the old TGIF offers.

As I said, I don't know the current game. On the other hand, you have to call a spade a spade. A sale is a sale, and gambling is gambling.


Je ne connais pas le jeu actuel et ne veux pas le connaître. Je ne joue pas. Par contre, Il faudrait peut-être arrêter de se compter des histoires. Les jeux c'est du gambling. Ce n'est pas une vente.

On l'a déjà dit, les jeux sont une façon pour totem d'écouler ses vielles cartes, qui ne vendraient pas en dehors des jeux, en plus de faire dépenser des crédits, dans le but que les gens en achètent à nouveau. C'est profitable pour eux d'agir ainsi. Ils gagnent sur les deux plans.

Et l'appât c'est la carte SEC. Une carte qui n'a absolument rien de plus quu'une carte dite régulière.

On est pas ici dans un club sélect où il faut payer un prix d'entrée pour être membre et avoir droit à des privilèges.

Les privilèges ici sont que, plus on achète de cartes, moins elles coûtent cher à l'achat, selon le niveau que l'on est rendu. La structure du programme est organisée ainsi.

Les jeux de hasard sont apparu dans les dernières *****ées avec les SEC comme appât pour augmneter les profits de Totem, et ne sont en rien des ventes. Il y a quelques gagnants et beaucoup de perdants, comme c'est le cas dans tous les jeux de hasard.

Je trouve par exemple que cela me coûte déjà assez cher d'être membre Premium et d'avoir acheter toutes les cartes qui pouvaient être achetable à Totem, en plus des Shows VR, sans avoir le privilège de pouvoir acheter les SEC en dehors des jeux. Et ce, même à un coût plus cher.

Les jeux sont surtout à l'avantage de Totem. Et les rabais dans ces jeux ne sont pas de réels rabais, si on ne peux pas choisir les cartes, comme c'était le cas dans certaines anciennes offres TGIF.

Comme je le disais je ne connais pas la jeu actuel. Par contre il faut appeller un chat un chat. Une vente, c'est une vente, et du gambling, c'est du gambling.

I don't know the current game and don't want to.

Then you can't make informed comments about what it is or isn't. However you can easily find out what it is by reading the description of it given when you bother to look.

On the other hand, maybe we should stop kidding ourselves. Games are gambling. It's not a sale.

This one happens to be both.