My thoughts on NFT (Sia Siberia & Co.)? Given the numbers that are appearing right now it's only one: you're out of your mind....Think we need to get the video out of John McEnroe playing tennis at WimbledonYou cannot be serious manYOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS

I had a big laugh recalling this scene... especially because I was in a little corner of the stands, back in 81.
At the time (sigh... happy young memories...), I had a Scottish girlfriend who was also an invited student in my university, in Lille.
As I discovered later, she had a wealthy and distant father (her, absolutely not mine). She knew I was poor like most students are, and totally in awe of Borg but could not see him, no seats. She invited me for the only possible match with McEnroe, and I sneaked to London from Calais, crawling on my bicycle - not enough money for my 2cv car on the Sealink ferry - , and it was one of the peak memory in my life...

2 geniuses - especially one - playing a dream tennis. And the "gasp" from the very distinguished noble royal perfectly-mannered totally-frigid a-nice-cup'o-tea British crowd.
Now, this kind of burst (and the umpire totally lost!) is something rather mild and seen repeatedly on tennis courts, with many many more destroyed rackets. But at the time, it was like Nielsen sliding down a table on his belly until stopped between the legs of the (actor) Queen.
For many there, it was *****. A pure shame. An absolute no-no. A devastating experience. The Alien ***** emerging from a live stomach would have been less disturbing...

I think I lost my girlfriend toward this time. I could not stop laughing at what happened, and it was sooooo shocking for her... that she quickly understood staying more with me was not appropriate for a Nessie clan...
I think she would have been less shocked if I had suggested an anal intercourse.

Sorry for this totally off-topic tranche-de-vie. Could not resist the memory. Mod, feel free to erase it.
But much more fun than this NFT thing...

👍 😆 😎

This is a real deal,
Only $423 to get SN 1
21hrs left, get your high bid in while you can.

Comme on dit chez moi "Les conseilleurs ne sont pas les payeurs" 😛

As we say at home "The advisors are not the payers" 😛

Looks like you can actually look at the aution without a crypto wallet

So it looks like there are about 30 bidders bidding on the 200 cards. Danny*somebody* seems to betting on about half of them alone. And about 25% have no bid at all.

One strange auction? I assumed the 1st card would be DOLZ best day but obviouly tweaking the model will help in the future.

Really curious what Danny*'s angle is?

Looks like you can actually look at the aution without a crypto walletSo it looks like there are about 30 bidders bidding on the 200 cards. Danny*somebody* seems to betting on about half of them alone. And about 25% have no bid at all.One strange auction? I assumed the 1st card would be DOLZ best day but obviouly tweaking the model will help in the future. Really curious what Danny*'s angle is?

It's obvious, to hoard the cards and dictate the price for the second hand market after the auctions end.

Damn - had to pop out and missed my chance to place my 3x 100,000 bids on the legendary auction. So congrats to Filathiel, and Sharky / Shiryu (same person) you have blown your wad big time 😳

If some people are willing to pay this amount of money just for one show, it's understandable for Totem to take adavantge of it.

I haven't been really following the whole NFT thing, just read some of the news here and there. I had a quick look at the auction going on.
Are the NFT shows any different than the regular ones here on Istripper? Are they longer, do they have more clips?

A regular Is XXX card these days has about 10 or 11 clips. Do these NFT cards have the same amount of clips, +1, 2 or 3 clips. Or are the "extra" clips already counted among those 10/11 clips?
Does that mean the basic NFT has only the stripping clips, and the 3 other levels get an "extra" explicit clip?
If that's the case, I don't really see the point of owning anything else than the 1st level.
If the 4th & most common level is only 15 to 20 min long and has the explicit table clips missing, then it's not an Is XXX card anymore.
Just my thoughts. It's way too pricey for me in any case.

Some of you guys probably already know the answer from the 2 NFT cards you already own: Paola Hard & Lana Lane

Yes, what a price for the Legendary versions of the cards... With current Dolz-price of $0,11275 the price for those three cards is over $3,000 combined 💰💰💰

@arise77 I am also not a participant in Dolz or in any crypto, just a curious spectator :) But what I know is that the four different rarity levels of NFT cards each has different number of clips. "Rare" has more than "Limited", "Epic" has more than "Rare" and "Legendary" more than "Epic".

Lana Lane - Shimmer Shot has a total of twenty (20) clips.
I have the epic version so that means nineteen (19) clips.

These two cards have respectively fourteen clips and sixteen clips.
The oldest of these is dated about end of May.

Rare is limited +1; Epic is limited +2; Legendary is limited+3. You do not know what is in those extra clips (level, duration etc) in advance.

And @calgon - I doubt they have blown their wads. These guys would have bought big in the pre-sales when Dolz were selling at $0.008. They are currently trading at around $0.013 - an increase of (I think) 62% in their value!

So someone who bought 200,000 Dolz in the pre-sale has already made a potential $1,000 profit

😊

@JonC001 I forgot to mention, not counting the demo clips that are sometimes just the first 20-30 sec. of another longer clip of the show.
So maybe about 10 to 13 clips without demo clips for an XXX card.

@pickle1 Thanks, I got that part about every level having 1 extra clip. It's stated on the auction page and was mentioned also in this thread.
Just wondering if these are actually extra compared to a regular card here on IS or if they are counted among those 10 to 13 clips.

Just wondering if these are actually extra compared to a regular card here

It would not be easy to tell, I think.
There is an extremely variability about number of clips in iS cards: from what I have been seeing, ranging from less than 10 clips to more than 30 ones.
XXX cards, anyway, usually tend to have less clips than ordinary cards do.

XXX cards, anyway, usually tend to have less clips than ordinary cards do.

It's not so much the Number of Clips that they build a card around.
It's total Play time.
They try to have at least 30 minutes of total Play time per card.

and as you can tell, the XXX clips are longer than Non-XXX card clips.
So while it is still around 30 minutes it results in fewer but longer clips.

The 1st AirDropped NFT cards, The additional clips per Level are EXTRA to the 30 minutes of the limited card version.

And the Final Additional Clip for the Legendary cards, is sort of a Special Clip.

These two cards have respectively fourteen clips and sixteen clips.The oldest of these is dated about end of May.

Suggest you look at the length of the Abigaile Johnson shows.
Divine delight show a0723 has 27 clips totalling 55 minutes in length.

@peterbanker,
How is what you just wrote a response to what I wrote? I do not understand.

@JonC001

I was merely trying to point out that the length of current cards and the number of clips in them is a lot less than those in the Abigaile Johnson cards and other cards released around that time.

@peterbanker

And there are a few even longer cards released. These two seem to be the longest:

c0014 ... Duo... Ariel & Bianca... 60 minutes
c0012... Solo... Bianca... 63 minutes

@Dfner

Thanks.
Some recently released cards are very short length compared to these

I think such cards of 60 minutes to have been exceptions rather than standards even at time of their publishing.

I have two NFT cards:

• g0045 - Lana Lane: Shimmer Shot (for connecting my wallet on Dolz.io)
• g0032 - Paola Hard: Early Comer (for taking part in presale round 2)

Lana Lane's card is Legendary. It has no XXX content, so you could compare it to "e" serie.
Clips breakdown:

• total clips: 20
• previews: 3
• limited clips: 14
• rare clips: 1 (time: 1:21, level: full nudity)
• epic clips: 1 (time: 2:03, level: full nudity)
• legendary clips: 1 (time: 1:03, level: full nudity)

Paola Hard's card is Epic, so one legendary clip is missing, but you can see the missing clip on "Clips" tab. It is simply greyed out. It has 4 XXX clips, so you could compare it to "f" serie. One of those XXX clips is legendary - this is the one that I have no access to (the grey one).
Clips breakdown:

• total clips: 16
• previews: 3
• limited clips: 10
• rare clips: 1 (time: 0:50, level: full nudity)
• epic clips: 1 (time: 0:45, level: XXX)
• legendary clips: 1 (time: 0:54, level: XXX)

So, in case of Lana Lane's card the three extra clips gives me 4:27 minutes of extra show. In case of Paola's card it is extra 2:29 minutes.

Of course I don't know how long are Sia Siberia's extra clips, but you could assume it can be something similar. Are those few extra minutes worth spending hundreds of dollars more? If I would keep the show for myself, as I'm planning to do, I don't think so. But maybe it is worth for people who want to resell them.

Now think about it from Totem's or reseller's perspective: all the NFT cards could be sold as standard "e" or "f" cards, with standard price. But if Totem (or reseller) can make extra money by artificially limiting the number of copies and limiting access to individual clips, why not? This is not stupid idea. On the contrary, this is brilliant. There will always be some idiots* who will try to get something just for the sake of having it, even if the number of it is artificially limited and its price is several hundred times higher than it could be. As long as there are such customers, creators will offer this type of content, because MONEY!


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(*)Should the word "idiot" be beeped? Isn't it offensive? Hmm... I did not use the word to refer to a specific person, so... if someone got offended, it means he is an idiot.
And YES, I'm an idiot too. I spend real money to get into this stupid NFT game. Now I have some Dolz. And what? I can't bake a cake out of them, so probably will try to buy some cheapest cards.

I have two NFT cards: g0045 - Lana Lane: Shimmer Shot (for connecting my wallet on Dolz.io) g0032 - Paola Hard: Early Comer (for taking part in presale round 2)Lana Lane's card is Legendary. It has no XXX content, so you could compare it to "e" serie.Clips breakdown: total clips: 20 previews: 3 limited clips: 14 rare clips: 1 (time: 1:21, level: full nudity) epic clips: 1 (time: 2:03, level: full nudity) legendary clips: 1 (time: 1:03, level: full nudity)Paola Hard's card is Epic, so one legendary clip is missing, but you can see the missing clip on "Clips" tab. It is simply greyed out. It has 4 XXX clips, so you could compare it to "f" serie. One of those XXX clips is legendary - this is the one that I have no access to (the grey one).Clips breakdown: total clips: 16 previews: 3 limited clips: 10 rare clips: 1 (time: 0:50, level: full nudity) epic clips: 1 (time: 0:45, level: XXX) legendary clips: 1 (time: 0:54, level: XXX)So, in case of Lana Lane's card the three extra clips gives me 4:27 minutes of extra show. In case of Paola's card it is extra 2:29 minutes.Of course I don't know how long are Sia Siberia's extra clips, but you could assume it can be something similar. Are those few extra minutes worth spending hundreds of dollars more? If I would keep the show for myself, as I'm planning to do, I don't think so. But maybe it is worth for people who want to resell them.Now think about it from Totem's or reseller's perspective: all the NFT cards could be sold as standard "e" or "f" cards, with standard price. But if Totem (or reseller) can make extra money by artificially limiting the number of copies and limiting access to individual clips, why not? This is not stupid idea. On the contrary, this is brilliant. There will always be some idiots* who will try to get something just for the sake of having it, even if the number of it is artificially limited and its price is several hundred times higher than it could be. As long as there are such customers, creators will offer this type of content, because MONEY!-----(*)Should the word "idiot" be beeped? Isn't it offensive? Hmm... I did not use the word to refer to a specific person, so... if someone got offended, it means he is an idiot.And YES, I'm an idiot too. I spend real money to get into this stupid NFT game. Now I have some Dolz. And what? I can't bake a cake out of them, so probably will try to buy some cheapest cards.

There are many people who would say wasting your time(and money) watching little woman dance on a desktop is idiotic, let alone pleasuring ones self to it, or watching it while working, or..... After reflection I have come to realize that special event, gambling, trading cards or an extention of the experience that istripper offers. Everybody who partakes in the software has attachments, addictions, preferences and some people love to collect, gamble, auction, sell, and a few will enjoy having an entire card that nobody in the world can enjoy. Totem has shown to be balanced in its decisions in the past and has shown restraint in only pursuing huge explosions of money at the cost of long term customers. I expect the same to persist. The fact that special event and trading cards are only slightly different attests to totems restraint in locking "new" content behind walls or is a reality that the product can't offer much more than what we get for a standard card.

@Dfner

Thanks.
Some recently released cards are very short length compared to these

Just like in the shops.
You get less for the same money.
The hourly wages of the models have probably increased, But they want to keep the price for the cards the same.
So the shows get shorter.

So the shows get shorter.

I don't see this to be so true. If you check random exemples of cards released in all times (apart classic series ones, which are compilations), you'll see that average duration of a show always has been around 30 minutes, of course with exceptions in both sides.
Moreover, first shows ever released (Silver, Carol, Elya and so) tended to last way less than 30 minutes - but then show durations were increased.

It's way more probable we "ordinary" users are, and are going to, miss entire shows rather than minutes - I imagine, at least for most famous models, that out of a 6-card shooting one could easily become a SEC and another one a NFT, so we would be get only 4 of them...

So the shows get shorter.

I don't see this to be so true. If you check random exemples of cards released in all times (apart classic series ones, which are compilations), you'll see that average duration of a show always has been around 30 minutes, of course with exceptions in both ways.

If you check the early shows you will find that the VirtuaGirl A series cards were usually much longer than 30 minutes, typically around 45 minutes and often longer, DeskBabes C series cards were shorter but still typically 35 minutes or so.

If you check the early shows you will find that the VirtuaGirl A series cards were usually much longer than 30 minutes, typically around 45 minutes and often longer

I would not say "usually". Checking A series i find some cards lasting more than 40 minutes, the vaste majority being around 30 minutes (particularly some minutes over 30 - exactly same amount we have now), but also many ones which duration was less of 30 minutes - some of such even during less than 20 ones (particulary the very first cards to be released on store) e.g. Laura a0049 lasting 14 minutes, Silver a0004 lasting 16 minutes - and they are not the only ones with such short durations.

I don't have time to make an extensive nor a full check, but, seeing what I have seen, I think I can infere, even if there was of course a bigger variability in durations than one we have seen in more recent years, medium duration to have been around 30 minutes also at those early times.

I said early shows. The switch to shorter times being the nom occurred well before the end of the A series. But even at the start there were some A series cards that were about 35 minutes in length.

But even at the start there were some A series cards that were about 35 minutes in length.

So there were, also at the start, shows which length was 20 minutes or even lesser.