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VR 180°: Lya Missy take 2

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celine
ÉQUIPE
Inscrit en Sep 2007

1962 message(s)
17 December 2021
It's amazing to see what a beautiful butterfly the crysalis became!
This video illustrates it so well!

https://www.istripper.com/vr180/detail/b1c5a12584aac029

Enjoy
Carbo
Inscrit en Nov 2007

227 message(s)
17 December 2021 (edited)
Could we get back to real life and stop making Halloween of every show, and more specificly of VR shows. I'm getting sick of this cosplay all year long. Pretty sure I'm speaking for many of us here.
R2D34ever2
Inscrit en Dec 2007

352 message(s)
17 December 2021
Im pretty sure not for me...
Would be nice if there were more positive instead of negative messages on this forum...
There is more then enough of that on the regular news..
Stay save and have a great weekend anyway...
Number6
Inscrit en Oct 2010

1179 message(s)
17 December 2021 (edited)
I have no problem with the cosplay cards and VR shows.

Variety is the spice of life.😊
Carbo
Inscrit en Nov 2007

227 message(s)
18 December 2021
If you prefer seeing Lya Missy with a black & white wig and beautiful outfit but that is not really suited for a stripstease, and Scarlett Jones with a giant/ugly black hat all the way to the end in a VR show, then suit yourself.
I prefer seeing Lya in a natural look with a nice lingerie like in her today's card.
Number6
Inscrit en Oct 2010

1179 message(s)
18 December 2021
I prefer seeing Lya in a natural look with a nice lingerie like in her today's card.

But that is my point. There over 2000 Lingerie Cards which is about 40% (very roughly) of all the cards made. It becomes boring after a while.

It is nice to have something different.
Carbo
Inscrit en Nov 2007

227 message(s)
18 December 2021
What I meant to point out is that a VR show mostly happens once or twice for the same model, so her VR show should at least show her in a more 'stripstease' outfit than a cosplay outfit and heavy makeup.

There over 2000 Lingerie Cards

I mostly agree with you for cards since each model has at least 6 of them. Variety is required in this case.
Vortim
Inscrit en Apr 2019

220 message(s)
19 December 2021
I agree... not a fan of this VR show... will wait for the next one....
Zossima
Inscrit en Feb 2008

173 message(s)
21 December 2021
Could we get back to real life and stop making Halloween of every show, and more specificly of VR shows. I'm getting sick of this cosplay all year long. Pretty sure I'm speaking for many of us here.

You do speak for me! I don't see what's so attractive about that terrible black and white wig, and most cosplay outfits are quite simply ridiculous/tacky. I don't mind Totem catering to the no doubt numerous cosplay fans around here, but there should be limits.

I don't care how many negative comments there are: we express ourselves as paying customers, and when we don't like things, we are SUPPOSED to voice our concerns. That's how firms know whether their clients are happy or not with their products. I won't shut up just because someone is depressed by the news or whatever.

Variety is good indeed. Having cosplay or plainly ridiculous outfits every third show is not good. It's not as though there were no possibilities at all beside lingerie and tacky outfits. But I've no doubt that it's a deliberate choice by Totem. Cosplay fans are probably a targeted demographic. Our voices will not be heard, I know that much. But it should not keep us from disagreeing.
Carbo
Inscrit en Nov 2007

227 message(s)
22 December 2021
Also the first 12 VR shows were much more intimate and more immersive mostly because the environment was dark around the scene and we were much closer to the model. Just take a look at those first VR shows and you'll see what I mean. I agree the setup was noisy (ventilation, etc...) but visually much more immersive.

That's my opinion of course but I thought it wouldn't ***** to share it.
Apasas
Inscrit en Aug 2009

1038 message(s)
25 December 2021
After watching the one minute preview, the costume is better than I thought. It has a sophisticated gothic feel to it. It's not a card I'm prioritising, but the outer costume does not put me off.

The main problem I'm having with iStipper VR cards is that the models take their clothes off too quick. The preview photos suggest this card is the same.
Carbo
Inscrit en Nov 2007

227 message(s)
26 December 2021 (edited)
The best setup they had in term of virtual immersion, camara postion and striptease has ended with Angelika Grays' first VR show . After that they've made changes to lighting and new decor, the camera got further from models. In VR you should have turn your head to see different parts of the subject or action.
If you only have to look straight ahead to watch a VR show, it's no longer VR, it is 3D, as simple as that.

Just as an example, in this Angelika Grays' first VR show, you have to turn your head left and right to see her left and right legs.

I really hope that someday they will get back to this style of VR.
Apasas
Inscrit en Aug 2009

1038 message(s)
26 December 2021
I generally agree with the view that it should be more than a xxx show in 3D. Because then I may as well just watch the 2D show. When the models are on the couch there is very little benefit to the VR. The VR really shines when the models are up close, but not too close.

Moving from side to side is not something that necessarily makes a great VR show. I watched a VR video from another tease site where the model moved side to side all the time. It was not that enjoyable to watch.
Carbo
Inscrit en Nov 2007

227 message(s)
26 December 2021
Moving from side to side is not something that necessarily makes a great VR show. I watched a VR video from another tease site where the model moved side to side all the time. It was not that enjoyable to watch.
I didn't mean that you should have to turn your head to follow the model. What I meant is the model should be close enough to give the sense of immersion and not feeling like a third person watching the show.
Apasas
Inscrit en Aug 2009

1038 message(s)
26 December 2021
If you mean subtle movements, then that is a fair point. As you say, the immersion is best when the model is close as you feel you are right beside her.
Carbo
Inscrit en Nov 2007

227 message(s)
26 December 2021
Another point I agree with you is the XXX part should be shorter and leaving much more time in the striptease itself.
Apasas
Inscrit en Aug 2009

1038 message(s)
26 December 2021
It's all about balance and opportunity.

Totem is in a unique position to appeal to both tease and xxx. But I feel they are not getting the right balance between tease and xxx, focusing too much on the latter and neglecting the former. Totem is in a unique position to appeal to both tease and xxx fans in the same video. But they seem to concentrate on xxx even though traditional porn does this stuff way better in VR.

I think the problem is that there is a lack of time to show it from all angles. But that is the wrong focus. The focus should be what maximises the VR experience. But I get the feeling the models just get a set of instructions and then let them get on with it. Basically it's tease, strip and xxx within 10 minutes without much though to the VR experience.

Perhaps I'm wrong. I plan to buy a couple more VR shows, although I expect much of the same.
Carbo
Inscrit en Nov 2007

227 message(s)
26 December 2021
I was referring to the first VR of Angelika Grays not for the show itself nor the model but rather the stage setup, lighting, camera positions and immersion. It's not my favorite show nor my favorite model, and there was too much time spent on the XXX part.

Lately they came back to this stage setup with Alissa Foxy's and also Sybil's show but the camera was still too far. Sybil is used to shooting in VR so when she simulates touching your face and kissing, she knows where your face is and you have the feel of it. So the part of staying away from the camera might be a directive or something like costing more money for the model to get closer. Go figure !!
wrightsayswow
Inscrit en Jul 2020

1160 message(s)
26 December 2021
I think the problem is that there is a lack of time ... I get the feeling the models just get a set of instructions and then let them get on with it ...
That I bet is "the problem" - so much content to create in just two days.
Amazing what they produce in such a short time. 👍
Apasas
Inscrit en Aug 2009

1038 message(s)
27 December 2021 (edited)
@Carbo - Your right about Sybil. She started well, but the latter scenes were too far from the camera. It seemed that the less clothes she had on, the further away she got. But Wylette's show was pretty good. Decent tease and they brought the camera closer for the xxx scene. So shows, they can produce decent VR content.

@wrightsayswow - The problem is that the VR shows are much more expensive than any other card and you get much less film time. I feel effort should be made to maximise the VR experience considering the price they charge.
wrightsayswow
Inscrit en Jul 2020

1160 message(s)
27 December 2021
@Apasas - They are much more expensive yes, for me too expenisve unless I really like the model. Bought only 7 of the 85 shows so far. A few more perhaps I will. We don't have to buy them of course.
The core content is the Desktop App which makes iStripper very special and as I think you wrote other sites do VR better, because that is their core content and they have more experience making this format.
Apasas
Inscrit en Aug 2009

1038 message(s)
27 December 2021 (edited)
@wrightsayswow - I feel the problem the that the VR shows have is that they are trying to stuff less than 10 minutes of content, covering tease and xxx, into one show. I am not criticising the models as they are trying to do everything required of them in the short time allowed.

I don't really accept that that we should expect less from VR shows because they are not core content. They are double the price of the most of the cards I can buy and they last far shorter. If anything they should be trying to maximise production quality. I think they should try their best to maximise the VR experience where they can and this will please more people, increasing sales and interest.

The fact that you have only bought 7 shows yourself suggests that you are hesitating to buy because you can't risk paying 30 credits for content you may not be interested in.

Naughty America seem to do their VR scenes very well (from the preview clips (I've seen) and I feel Totem can learn from that. OnlyTease concentrate on the tease aspect, but they are off mixed quality, often depending on the model (Natalia Forrest, aka Naltalia from this site is fantastic in VR btw). Most are average at best and they too fail to maximise the VR to its full advantage.

I think they can improve things just by making some adjustments to what they are already doing. In some cases, they just need to repeat what they already do well, like in Wylette's card. Remember, I am not criticising the quality, which is decent, but the execution which can be improved. I think I'll post something in the Suggestion thread to give my thoughts.
Number6
Inscrit en Oct 2010

1179 message(s)
27 December 2021
The fact that you have only bought 7 shows yourself suggests that you are hesitating to buy because you can't risk paying 30 credits for content you may not be interested in.

For Premium members they are 24 credits (20% discount) when they first go on sale.
Apasas
Inscrit en Aug 2009

1038 message(s)
27 December 2021
For Premium members they are 24 credits (20% discount) when they first go on sale.

Obviously, the risk is less for Premium members who are willing to buy quickly after release, But that won't apply to most members or shows released previously.
Number6
Inscrit en Oct 2010

1179 message(s)
27 December 2021 (edited)
I have them all except for one that was withdrawn because of quality issues.

Li Moon is one of my favourites. I never realised how small and delicate and stunningly beautiful she is. Something you don't really get from the cards. The cards just don't get up close and personal in the same way as VR/
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Apasas
Inscrit en Aug 2009

1038 message(s)
27 December 2021 (edited)
Oh, don't get me wrong, I like VR a lot. Close up, it feels so real and visceral. You get to see all the little details and imperfections. This doesn't reduce the appeal, indeed it makes the model seem even more real. And really pretty girls look amazing.

You also get a better sense of scale and proportion, which is not obvious in the 2D cards.

I like Li Moon, but I'm not overly keen on her costume in VR (or more accurately, there are plenty other shows where the costume has more appeal). I'm sure that she doesn't keep it on long, which then causes the second issue I normally have with these shows.
Philours
Inscrit en Feb 2019

1659 message(s)
27 December 2021
Personnellement je n'achèterai pas un spectacle VR pour voir une culotte pendant 9 minutes et un cul pendant 30 secondes 😛
Personally I will not buy a VR show to see panties for 9 minutes and ass for 30 seconds 😛
Carbo
Inscrit en Nov 2007

227 message(s)
27 December 2021
Li Moon is one of my favourites. I never realised how small and delicate and stunningly beautiful she is.
Li Moon's VR show has always been my favorite. She's beautiful with a delicate skin. She stands at a perfect distance to the camera, and she really makes the show for one person, the one with the VR headset.

In every VR show there's one thing that would help the VR experience when the model is on the couch. The camera could be a little lower.
Apasas
Inscrit en Aug 2009

1038 message(s)
27 December 2021
@Philours - We all have different tastes. That's the issue Totem has with these shows. I personally would buy a show to watch panties for nine minutes if done well. But I'd also buy a 9 minute xxx show too if done right.
Sexy3DBoy
Inscrit en Jun 2011

480 message(s)
27 December 2021 (edited)
Personnellement je n'achèterai pas un spectacle VR pour voir une culotte pendant 9 minutes et un cul pendant 30 secondes 😛
Personally I will not buy a VR show to see panties for 9 minutes and ass for 30 seconds 😛
C'est vrai ça ?😲
Faut-être culotté pour faire ça.😆

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