Do not feed the troll...in this case a bad joke lololol

I just spent 10 credits on a scratch card (was only going to do 1) and got 2 S's. It said my prize was 100 credits. I didn't get them.

Many Members are ***** by this.

The Center Prize is What you Might Win.
But you Need 3 S's in the small coins to WIN that Prize.

If you do not get 3 S's,
you didn't win the prize displayed in the Center Coin.

If you guys want to make games...make some games. Don't mix games with your storefront or you will lose customers. You don't walk into a store to buy something and the guy behind the register says you can't buy that, but you can gamble for it. Yeah, we win a bunch of cards we didn't want while we play...whoopty doo. Just sell us the cards we want and keep your gambling gaming garbage off your storefront.

Don't mix games with your storefront or you will lose customers.

What little evidence we have suggests that Totem gain more than they lose by these games.

You don't walk into a store to buy something and the guy behind the register says you can't buy that, but you can gamble for it.

I have seen exactly that, sometimes for very high value items such as a "special edition" Jaguar car and also for very low value items such as plastic toys.

You don't walk into a store to buy something and the guy behind the register says you can't buy that, but you can gamble for it.

Yes it is quite common during the Gift giving Holidays, when a Very Popular toy or gaming console is in Limited supply.
Customers put their name into a drawing, or on a list, and names are drawn out to see who can get one..
It's either done live at the store, or they will call you and let you know your name was drawn, Do you want it.
Give your CC number and come pick it up before closing or you loose it.

@zenwolfy2K

Don't know about the US but in the UK many local stores sell lottery tickets and lottery scratchcards. Some people go to the stores specifically to gamble.

You would actually have trouble trying to find a store in my area that Does Not sell lottery tickets. Convenience stores, department stores and grocery stores alike. Billboards are everywhere, giving the current total winning value for each of the two big money games being played here.

Well, yeah, but there is no limited edition on digital content. I'm not interested in a lottery. I don't want to put my name in a hat. If I was I'd be somewhere else!

I came here to watch "Hot babes perform exclusive erotic shows on my desktop". Perhaps they should put on the front page that there is a chance that the girl you came here for is not available unless you part with a significant sum of money, and even then you might not get to see her... unless you are prepared to part with even more.

This place feels less inviting every day. It seems that those with the most money have the loudest voice...

I have to say that I had given uo on the scratch card game, having had to quit and re-open iStripper a number of times in an attempt to get it to work, until I at one point lost contact with my entire collection. But with expert help help from a member of the istripper team function was restored.

I then found myself with 197 credits in credit and decided to give the Scratch game a go, with a mental note to myself to limit my expenditure to 47 credits. But during 45 minutes of playing, through winning several 50 credits I eventually won the Melena special event card and gained 136 credits as well. It demonstarted to me that the game can produce wins. I have always found it best in lotteries , Auctions or betting to decide in advance what ones spending limit is and stick to it.

Hmm. It appears loot boxes might win in some scenarios, like the Guiness Book of World Records prize for Most Downvoted comment in the history of Reddit:

https://kotaku.com/ea-received-a-guinness-world-record-for-most-downvoted-1837955807

I've never bought a one and plan to continue to not do so. Vote with your dollars lads.

Funny how people related to Totem Productions are defending this. Just like a crappy restaurent on a Gordon Ramsay show. Nothing positive comes out of talking down to the customors. If you feel the business model gives you too little profit per card then try changing the pice. But making this into a gambling app is a totally different thing. Gambling about software content... but with real money. We are not paying for smurf berries but actually gambling with money and not getting any product (when blanks are drawn). Might not be legal without a gambling license?

We are not paying for smurf berries but actually gambling with money and not getting any product (when blanks are drawn). Might not be legal without a gambling license?

Exactly !!! But since we're gambling with credits (not a legal money) they probably fall outside the law.

Well, yeah, but there is no limited edition on digital content.

There are indeed limited editions on digital content - that is pretty much what people here have been ***** about. It may be that the limit is artificially imposed in the digital case but that is also true for very many limited edition physical objects, think of limited edition commemorative coins and plates.

Nobody ***** anyone to do anything...I mean not unless that gets you off!

but anyway don't be the fish...be the one doing the fishing! 😜👌 (69lbs!)

We are not paying for smurf berries but actually gambling with money

This is false. I am a bit upset with Totem now, since I ***** exclusive cards, slot machines, scratch cards and so, but on this point I have to defend Totem.
a) On this software we don't use money, but credits, which are a totally fictional currency. The only real transactions here happen when you buy credits, not when you do anything with them.
b) Gamble on Istripper is not real gamble, also, because it's only about credits. Moreover, it's not possible at all to convert credits winnings back in real currencies. So, it's not real gamble.

😜👌 (69lbs!) th@'s a lot of fish to eat at one time

Obviously the joke went way over your head...again 😆😆😆

b) Gamble on Istripper is not real gamble, also, because it's only about credits. Moreover, it's not possible at all to convert credits winnings back in real currencies. So, it's not real gamble.

The video games industry has been clinging to that legal loophole for years now., as corporations continue to monetise the crap out of games woth "surprise mechanics".. The only esacpe rule and mandate from the gambling legal bodys due too that technicality

The UK are looking into this farse right now. I hope other countrys foillow suit.

haha people compairing gambling from these scratch card on this site too kinder surprise eggs and the like...

EA went that way, too in parlement. lets see how that works out for them

If it looks like gambling, acts like gambling, costs money like gambling it is gambling

Here, you play with a fictional currency, and you can not convert winnings in real currency. So, it's not a money gambling. Period.

Here, you play with a fictional currency, and you can not convert winnings in real currency. So, it's not a money gambling. Period.

how i love semantics

But true, it just makes it all the more disengenous, hiding the true cost it all, behind a fictional currency, which is infact bought with real money.

Not directly money gambling, but there is a real world monetairy cost involved. and that is incontrovertable.

as i said before, BEcuase there is no real world cashout, these gambling mechanisms, have thus far evaded the laws of gambling authorities.

but the looks like a duck, quaks like a duck, walks like a duck. is alil over played

popularity of a thing doesnt make it any less true

heres another,

• if the shoe fits*

Here, you play with a fictional currency, and you can not convert winnings in real currency. So, it's not a money gambling. Period.

But you have to buy the virtual currency with actual money so it is still covered by the same laws.

There are indeed limited editions on digital content - that is pretty much what people here have been ***** about. It may be that the limit is artificially imposed in the digital case but that is also true for very many limited edition physical objects, think of limited edition commemorative coins and plates.

All limited supply is being artificially created to sell products and services, which legally speaking is pretty underhand as it is creating a false market. While not currently against the law, it is clearly creating problems with consumers (just look at the forums!) and is probably not the best policy or practice to follow.

https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/gambling_en

Legalese; my head *****. :)

Not directly money gambling, but there is a real world monetairy cost involved. and that is incontrovertable.

You cannot apply game law here because the virtual currency used is not a closed loop system. If you can buy into the virtual currency using real world currency it is treated as a market trading standard.

whats with the price change now its going to cost 5 dollars to get one of the new girls use to get alot more credits for the money, now not so much.

All limited supply is being artificially created to sell products and services, which legally speaking is pretty underhand as it is creating a false market.

You may not like it, I certainly do not like it, but it is a very common practice and has been for at least couple of hundred years in the art print and book printing business.

I just spent about 100 credits on the scratch card game, didn't win anything and didn't get any enjoyment out of playing it. It's the type of mindless cash sink that should be made illegal.

Not directly money gambling, but there is a real world monetairy cost involved. and that is incontrovertable.

You cannot apply game law here because the virtual currency used is not a closed loop system. If you can buy into the virtual currency using real world currency it is treated as a market trading standard.

Here, you play with a fictional currency, and you can not convert winnings in real currency. So, it's not a money gambling. Period.

But you have to buy the virtual currency with actual money so it is still covered by the same laws.

I dont claim to be super smaret, and im unclear what :game law: you are refering too, but you seem to have make opposing points here.

Im probably missunderstanding you

Totem did all the proper research to make sure everything is on the up & up. They would not put everything at risk as far as legality is concerned with their marketing strategies.

You’re all talking to a brick wall when trying to say the games are illegal.

It depends if it's real money or not. A closed loop system has no way of buying into, or adding into, the monetary system (such as computer game simulations). As soon as you add in a loot box system, technically you add a real world monetary system into the mix and this means that you have to adhere to trading standards.

It's the middle of a current giant legal battle about what is gambling and what is not... what should and should not be available online and where... and what is and is not covered by local and international law. Gaming law (computer gaming law) is a small corner of this and is changing dynamically with the rise of online gaming. Loot boxes are the most obvious part of this and are now being considered as in-play gambling in certain parts of the world.

While not yet illegal... definitely fringe. :)

GTA's casino DLC got caught up in this too. While you could buy the DLC anywhere in the world, you couldn't legally play it in various countries. :)

im, sure totem did its reaseach. crossed all T's and dotted all the i's, doesnt mean its not a crappy way to make money.

and as someone with self confessed gambling addiction issues, it sure FEELS exploitative. scratch cards where NOT a thing only a 2 years ago, then they were introduced each weedend only, and they have been running all week long since.

Totem are definately testing the waters on this lucrative new way to sell cards, and its demonstarably grown in scope over a very short time.

Tell me im wrong, tell me scrtach cards and slot mashines have ALWAYS vbeen in VG and istripper, and tell me that have not become a weekly long thing, tell me im wrong!

I dont ***** get why some people have chosen to attack me, like is some kind of vendetta? belittling me, in sulting me, calling me dumb, Wioth thois kind of paywall holding new cards hiostage, discluding many members from obtaining them being so obvious, yet speaking out and wanting this too stop only benefits EVERYONE allowing a clear pathway to obtaining vewry single new card released. why attck me over wanting that? its certainly doesnt hinder anyone too have fair access too the entirety of the software we are eager too support!