We're trying to find the right balance between girl getting naked to quick and over-stripping for the next months production.

You can be specific in the comments about which clip should start with more clothes on(as 2 full striptease on pole, or 2nd full nudity on the table etc).

Thanks!

To me this is crazy it'll feel like the product is being watered down, because if my casting suggestions were answered and the girls i wanted started filtering in and i have to wait forever for her to get naked because she's slow-stripping and teasing???

I personally don't want alot of clips like "demo clips" for me that's almost like a game over this isn't real life this is fantasy this is after all an adult/porn product right?

I say keep it the way it is.

I like to look at naked women, but I also like to see them take a while to get naked. For me, more tease would be better, but in the end I still what to see them naked.

For me I like them to take it off slow, so we can see them dance. But at the end be naked to. Let`s keep it the same.

yes, I can be more specific ..

Starting from Olga Barz #655 (perfect example ot teasing, who still shows pussy) to #1554 (Anna Tatu) who is another perfect example of clothed teasing, you used to have the ideal balance of that. Before it was good too.

You still have some shows now like #0053 Aurely Rebel, who is not ovwr-naked, but its an exception.

Yes I understand that most ppl wants naked body. But I suggest the same thing as I did for feet. 1 card focused on naked, 1 card focused on clothed and other cards featuring all kins of tease. Some quick pussy and some clothed tease and so on.

For some users VG is not a porn site. We can see pussy of those girls everywhere. But we want some company of those girls living on our screen. Sometimes I just want a girl just sit on my taskbar pretending she wants me to jump to her and acting that she really hopes I cam do it. Melisa did that in 1 clip which was absolutely awesome. I do not mind pussy and stuff, but those must come as a reward. Let the girls do some creative stuff clothed. I even miss some old times when Suzanna used to print papers in fromt of me and girls drew pictures showing me them. You are having an awesome girls, awesome quality of the picture and stuff. But please be more creative with teases. It calls VG interactive, so let us feel girls playing with us but not with her holes. Btw DB is just about right stuff. But VG should be different.

anyway, thanks for listening us .. :)

For my money it's all over a bit too quickly lately. the models seem to apear on screen and then become naked in a heartbeat. Like some I prefered it when there was an eliment of tease to it. I kind of thought that was the point of DB, there I would expect more explicit behaviour and VG to be more slow and seductive.

The shows like Belle Claire did recently (0228) is about right, for me anyway, where the model starts with an outfit, strips to underwear before getting fully naked.

Slow and steady wins the race. :)
(In my humble view anyway)

I am a fan of the girls firstmost (so Lovely), but sometimes there are cards that they seem to jump out of their clothes very quickly. There have been quite a few new cards that only have no nudity on the demos(This weeks Belle Claire), it might be nice to have a solid clothed tease clip more frequently, as some have stated they like to have just the non nudity clips running at times. Otherwise that can be a real dry well.

There are so many variables going on with the setup too, Are people watching full shows vs a few clips ... progressive hotness, does that matter? All of it does!

Just scrounging around through some of the model shows, and I it seems like most of Sapphira's cards strike a nice balance in terms clip types.

As far as DB is concerned, Anyone else miss the standing clips? Getting 3 taskbar shows in a card can feel a bit stale at times.

More clips started fully clothed, in underwear or half clothed okay, but the teasing should not take 2,5 minutes of a 3 minutes clip, but more like 1 minute out of 3. I don't have the patience for waiting too long since I'm not capable to enhance the clip (should be made possible by the software!!!). Not too many models have the personality of Danielle Maye or Nikky Case to be watch no-nude and be still interesting.
Also it is about the dancing capability of a model to be interesting in no-nude standing clips. Let them dance like they would do in a disco/club and with a certain speed!!! Use the natural capabilities of a model and don't hang them up to a certain idea of what should be.

I would very much like that the whole striptease was filmed in a continuous and progressive scene, then maybe divided into clips, so you can have a part of striptease (for example, clips in this sequence: before the shirt / sweater, then her skirt / pants, then shoes, stockings, bra and finally panties), or a sequence of whole striptease from beginning to end without pauses.
So, it would be great that the button "Striptease" (the one that is activated with the right mouse button), matches the entire logical sequence of clips. Otherwise, you can always play the single clip.

I see what you are looking for here Rex but I'm sorry. The problem is not a to slow or to quick striptease in it self but the basic quality of the over all card depending on the girl. For some girls it seams like forever before anything happen... even if they get naked in a split second! Other girls can keep all their cloths on and maybe only flash a boob... still they manage to blow my mind with their performance.

So the answer is... some girls take to long time... and some move to fast... even if they all in minutes spend exactly the same amount of time getting naked. Does this make any sence? Sometimes it feels like time stand still... and sometimes time fly by! =)

Ordering the girls to take X amount of time to get naked in my mind may become a creative nightmare for the models. I say... go in the other direction... encourage the girls to be more creative and give them outfits that are more than just a top and a bottom. Then let the creativity flow!

I know you are on a tight schedule to shoot X number of scenes a day... maybe this also need to be considered and give the girls more time per card? Then you will have more material to choose from when you put the contend of the card together.

Yes keep it the same. It does not effect all the girls. Every girl is different. Some like to tease and take their time while others are just so horny they can't wait to take their clothes off. :) As they say, different strokes for different folks. That's what keeps Virtualgirl really interesting. If all the girls did the same thing all the time it would become systematic and quite boring. So it's really up to the girl at how fast or slow she wants to strip.

Example of one of my favorite cards ever...Chelsea French-Young Countess-Card a0719...this card has everthing for me...sey looks...teasing...DANCING...sexiest shoes I've seen on VGHD. I think this card will give you an idea of what a lot of guys are talking about when they say they want a balance of teasing and nudity. My humble opinion is that it is damn near the perfect card.

My 2 centimos...

This thread shows up all the challenges that Totem have to try to balance. Some want quick strips, others want long, slow strips. Some want more clothing, others want less. Totem are never going to please everybody with every card. That's a given, unfortunately.

I could add my own personal preferences here but they are irrelevant in the grand scheme of this issue as surely there would be other members who would want something different. And that's ok!

So... How to strike an even balance with each card? May not be possible for every card but as others have suggested, maybe with each group of 5 or 6 of a girl's cards, the Team plan ahead more carefully to give something for everyone over the 6 cards, depending on the outfits they plan to use.

I just re-read what I typed and in general, I think Totem already try to do that. Doh!

Then, what would happen if Totem worked out a balanced formula for each girl to perform in various outfits and that would become the norm for all the girls? I predict yet another set pattern slipping in and the cards will become even more predictable...

I have concluded that there is NO win-win for anybody here in the long term. There are way too many variables to please everybody, all the time. I suggest we let Totem AND the girls decide what they want to do. Sometimes we'll get something extraordinary that makes the whole thing worthwhile :D

End of my 2 centimos worth ;)

Ps: I voted in the middle. Most of the time, I'm happy with what I get :D

Please keep the balance. Few clips with clothes on, few clips with topless and few clips total naked. Thanks.

I have a sugestion if the ladies that have there up in high fashion styles on there last clip have them to let there haid al the way down

What i'd like to see:

• At least one standing clip "everything on -> everything off". Most cards seem to have it already, keep it.
• Shorter (and/or more diverse) nude-at-start clips. E0067_64302 is a perfect example (for those missing it - Isizzu runs from the side, seems shocked you are watching, hides back, peeks, accepts you watch anyway, gorgeously comes back and dresses up).
• More actual teasing. Some girls seem to not know what an upskirt is, why they are wearing a skirt then?
• There should be no fixed order of removing clothes in each and every clip. Watching a girl making the same top-bottom-bra-pants routine in every clip of every card is, well, repetitive. As an example, e0228 offers a solid variety of starting conditions and routine.

And for the eternal heels holywar, maybe add some clip info available before purchase, like:
Clips total: 16, of which 8 heels, 5 stockings and 3 barefeet.
Also having a list of clips with even current tag system on them pre-purchase will help a lot

btw, yes, i forgot upskirt .. more upskirt please:)

Seems like things have actually gotten a little more naked and that's about the right balance now. I'd still love to see a little more teasing, upskirts and mixing it up. I'd love to see more clothing with no panties.

I agree with the others saying let the girl do her thing. The only thing Totem should change up is the outfits, it's getting really repetitive seeing the same old nurse outfits, black leather outfits, ***** outfits, etc. Maybe thats why people just want to see the girl naked fast, the outfit doesn't appeal anymore. Take some fashion tips from Lady Gaga, I don't care for her music but you gotta admit, she is always turning heads with her costumes. It doesn't matter if the model looks ridiculous, she's gonna take it all off anyway. Makeup and hairstyle should also have more variety. I would like to see a show where I can't even recognize the girl on the card.

I think most clips should end with nudity. Having said that, I'm not a fan of cards that have too many clips where the girl starts naked. A few sure, but the whole point of these (hopefully) sexy outfits is... anticipation. This is also true for me for deskbabes cards. I can barely tell Tracy Smile's deskbabes cards apart because she spends so little time "in costume."

More sensual clips would be better. With too much nudity, it feels like deskbabe without the masterbation. Some clips should be nude while majority should be teasing, taking things off little at a time. Some dancing wouldn't ***** either.

Definitely getting naked too quick. Keep the outfits and the heels on, with the outfit off and the heels still on by the end of the show.

I think the fact that many models recently are only wearing lingerie adds to the feeling of "overstripping". If there's only so much she can take off before she's naked, ou cna't help it.

I.e, my suggestion would be to get more layers of costumes. Lingerie shows are O.K, but they shouldn't form 50% of the video base like now.

It's going to be one of those divisive issues, if you include more shoes or clothes you'll have those who want less of each up in arms... the girls know what they feel comfortable stripping out of, it's a good reason to keep it as it is. However, the team have never been afraid to try something new, I trust them to make the right decision...

A difficult pole to vote on.

Personlly, I buy VGHD because the girls are clothed. For me, the naked clips are an optional bonus. I like to see the girl naked eventually because I want to see what she is like under the costume. But the truth is, I would not ***** too much much if a girl didn't show her pussy at all.

My favoutite clips are where a fully clothed girl is flashing her panties, where a girl is frolicking around in panties (topless or otherwise), or where the girl is flashing her pussy from her panties These are the core clips for me, the ones I am really paying for. The rest are just a bonus.

There are three clips that annoy me the most.
1) Clips where a girl is fully clothed and doesn't do anything interesting.
2) Girl starts clip fully clothed only to take the clothing off immediately
3) The girl starts off naked.

When I watch VGHD, I usually set it to topless and light sexy, because I am more interested in the clothed clips.

For me there should be a certain number of clips where the girl is fully clothed. In the end, I buy the cards principally for the costume. So I want to see it. However, the girl should still do tease actions like flash her panties, bra, etc, without showing a nipple or pussy. On the other hand, I don't want to go back to the days of the earlier cards where a girl could have several fully clothed clips where she just stands or sits about without even flashing anything. That is just frustrating.

For me, there should be at least one clip of each type for the following:
1) At least one clip of each type where the girl is fully clothed. But this should still include teasing including upskirts and panty flash. In effect there is no stripping.
2) At least one clip of each type where the girl transitions from fully clothed to partly clothed or topless.
3) At least one clip from each type where the girl transitions from partly or fully clothed to naked. This could also include things like upskirts without panty.
4) A couple of 'holistic' clips where the girl starts of fully clothed and strips to naked.
5) A couple of clips where the girl starts our naked or almost naked.

This may seem a bit formulaic, but I have no problem with that. Nearly all art produced for commercial consumption is formulaic. The artistic talent in VGHD should be able to make each feel fresh, new and unique. Also, the formula above is based on the girl wearing outer wear. It may have to be altered slightly where the model starts in a bikini or lingerie.

Anyway, that is my view. Many will disagree. But I think it will give something for everyone.

I think I would leave that more up to the girls. Whats more important is that's difference in balance cloths on/tease/nude from card to card and girl to girl. Thanks!

Sometime, the girl could do a litlle more teasing before stripping, but it's ok.
For me, virtuagirl was about teasing, and stripping of beautiful girl.
Deskbabe was a more hardcore VG version, with explicit action, and much faster nude clip.
I think that, the main problem i see right now...isn't that the girl strip too fast.
(even if i like stripping and would love more of it sometime)
It's more like...the girls often don't wear much, i see it all.
There is no teasing, she's already nearly naked before beginning the show.
So, not much to strip, or tease.
When wearing very small bikini, maybe they should also wear...beach robe, at the beginning of the show.
When wearing dentelle, stocking, why not wearing other cloth, and reveal all that?
That would make more stripping action, and slowly revealing, teasing.
This would allow much more teasing, and stripping.
Wearing more clothes, even if it's nearly transparent, make them more desirable at the beginning of the show.
We can imagine...the parts she will reveal to ourself later on, slowly.
Virtuagirl was...about stripping.
I think it's more about naked girl now.
Maybe it's time...to return a little more...in the past.

I went with 'Get naked too quick' as the site is about girls stripping on your desktop and that means teasing in various stages of undress for me. Nearly all the girls on here feature on some porn sites so it's not like seeing them naked is anything new.

I think outfits, hair and make up are the most important especially if the girl has heaps of cards. You did awesome with the (Lucy Li) Lara Croft themed outfit and more creative clothes like that would be very nice.

I also agree with some of the other members, I like when the girl does something other than just stripping and feel more props are needed. Abigaile's 'Afternoon Snack' is an often viewed card for me, from lying down on her stomach reading to covering herself in her ice cream it is a great show. Sabrisse is in a similar outfit in card 1603 where she writes in her book and asks if she should remove her Skirt ot Panties, she's very interactive in the show and it's heaps of fun.

On the other end you have the cards from Sapphira. She is super sexy and I have bought most of her cards but her shows are all the same, she needs more direction and props. Clover is the same, she has very set routine and her shows are too repetitive. You did way too many Viola cards in a short space of time for me but at least with her 'Midnight Run' card you added a sexy gym outift with some skipping which was really cool.

The quality of 3K is amazing and the models are top shelf, for me it's up to the team to get more creative with the card ideas and outfits. And I know this not the topic of the poll and it's been said many times before but more diversity is a must.

Cheers.

I am somewhere between "Get naked too quick" and "It's just about right". I voted "Get naked too quick" but don't want to go overboard with it either though. I love seductive cloths like see-through stuff and the like!