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itsme33
Inscrit en Nov 2009

30 message(s)
20 September 2014 (edited)
I'm just going to leave this info riiiiight here.

VirtuaGirl
1635 Cards
Euro 94.04%
Asian 3.36%
Black 1.1%
Latina 2.38%
Middle East 1.10%

Desk Babes
626 Cards
Euro 94.24
Asian 1.11%
Black 0.63%
Latina 2.23%
Middle East 1.75%

itsme33
Inscrit en Nov 2009

30 message(s)
20 September 2014
yeaaa
itsme33
Inscrit en Nov 2009

30 message(s)
20 September 2014
smh
shodan084
Inscrit en Dec 2007

1652 message(s)
20 September 2014
It might surprise you to learn that Virtuagirl and Deskbabes are European companies. No amount of pie charts will change that.
itsme33
Inscrit en Nov 2009

30 message(s)
20 September 2014
Go look at the racial demographics in europe shodan084.... That's the sad part.
shodan084
Inscrit en Dec 2007

1652 message(s)
20 September 2014
I'm looking;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Europe

The idea that they should all dance for money amuses me greatly.
If you break the Euro zone down to it's constituent parts, it's quite varied really.
jununger
Inscrit en Oct 2007

1243 message(s)
20 September 2014
It would be interesting if someone could come up with a chart showing how many girls with different ethnic backgrounds there are in the EU in the adult business... My guess is that Totem is doing their best to attract the few that actually are in the business that meet the high standard Totem demand.

Also remember... there are two sides here! Totem probably approach more ethnic girls but then it's up to the girls if they want to come work for Totem. Performing on a local strip club is a whole other thing than going global online...
91hebasu
Inscrit en Jan 2008

1144 message(s)
20 September 2014
@itsme33

I got nothin'.

Not sure what you're gettin' at.
itsme33
Inscrit en Nov 2009

30 message(s)
20 September 2014
I pick ***** 91hebasu at the fact that everyone seems to believe that there is a lack of color in Europe. Just a little research and you will see.. that its not like that at all. But hey, lets just be them more reasons why out of all the girls that have now, they come up short on color.
Wyldanimal
MODÉRATEUR
Inscrit en Mar 2008

4044 message(s)
20 September 2014
totem created a Model Suggestion Thread just for this reason.
if you know of a Model, post it on that thread..

But putting up Stats, that Don't mean a hill of beans ain't going to change the demographics of what Girls will strip for Totem and which ones won't.

Track down an Ethnic Model, Whom will be In the Paris Area, get her Stats, and Post them!
think it's easy? Go give it a try..

So How Many did you Find??


Grog101
Inscrit en Apr 2014

167 message(s)
20 September 2014
TY @Wyldanimal you took the words right out of my mouth.

You have to look at the hole picture. Finding Models for the Adult Entertainment Industry is not as easy as you would think. and remember that they have to meet a legal criteria. work visas ect. If you can run down some models that can meet that criteria, there are allot of us who would be grateful to you. good luck on the search.
itsme33
Inscrit en Nov 2009

30 message(s)
20 September 2014
Then pack up and move to America where you can find anything they need, no shortage, tons of money. Hell the way the media is, girls will come running.
HombreSinSombra
Inscrit en Oct 2010

1249 message(s)
21 September 2014
Hmmm. Pack up a business and move to another continent. Then we will all have better quality. I stress that I have no financial gain here.

Sorry buddy but you really are in cuckoo land if you think that might happen any time soon! Totem is a business that tries to provide quality entertainment, for a fair price. We already know that a new, improved version is coming very soon. You like watching your girls strip, right? If you object to something that Totem provides for us, then you are free to look elsewhere for your entertainment.

I abhor racism, sexism or any other kind of 'ism'. I only ***** evil :)
shodan084
Inscrit en Dec 2007

1652 message(s)
21 September 2014
Why yes. Pack up the struggling business, move to a completely unknown environment. Leave behind family, friends, country of origin, language... all to serve percentages!

Business savvy.
bdconm7
Inscrit en Oct 2008

8 message(s)
21 September 2014
I only ***** those who *****!!!! Yes, I just admitted I ***** my self.
bdconm7
Inscrit en Oct 2008

8 message(s)
21 September 2014
If totem was to diversify probably the best way is to have a satellite branch start in what ever secondary location(Providing financially feasible)
jununger
Inscrit en Oct 2007

1243 message(s)
21 September 2014
@bdconm7
Totem have tried that in the US more than once... and each time they left with disaster on their hands. The studio didn't meet their standard, the models didn't show up for work, the local photographer didn't know how to use a camera making the photo almost impossible to use. And that's all from their last attempt alone!

Read all about it...
http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=3&ftId=11953&pageNb=3#post200125
Tout sur iStripper / Digging in the past of VG, i have found...
Well, sometimes when i have a little of free time, i like to read about history. It is one of my hobbies. Sometimes i also take a look into the "ancient" history of this forum. I've found many interes...
jaytee556
Inscrit en Nov 2008

222 message(s)
21 September 2014
I'm wondering how much those numbers have to do with sales. If ethnically diverse cards sold more, I believe that Totem would provide more.
notdeadyet
Inscrit en Feb 2012

143 message(s)
21 September 2014
European is a concept not a race or ethnic background.
Pretty much Every colour under the sun can be found in Europe.
BUT culturally some ethnic groups are less inclined to take their clothes off in public.

For example you will see VERY few Strippers from the Indian sub continent
and probably almost no Eskimos
HombreSinSombra
Inscrit en Oct 2010

1249 message(s)
21 September 2014
@Notdead: Words of wisdom, my friend. Now. How about a beautiful Eskimo stripper? How much would that cost? Hehehe.
TallandSlimMan
Inscrit en Apr 2008

466 message(s)
21 September 2014
For a beautiful Eskimo (well, half Eskimo, half French) stripper,, take a look at the shows of Axelle Parker.
HombreSinSombra
Inscrit en Oct 2010

1249 message(s)
21 September 2014
Dammit! I forgot about the lovely Axelle! I have 3 of her cards! And she is gorgeous! :D
notdeadyet
Inscrit en Feb 2012

143 message(s)
21 September 2014
Thus "Almost no" not "no"
itsme33
Inscrit en Nov 2009

30 message(s)
21 September 2014
Someone always mentions sells. Really, I'm not going to say what I want to say but apparently it is frowned down on to speak honestly about the girls but I'll just say, I won't be surprised to see that some of the "ethnic" girls that they chose don't sell well. I also know that some of you guys loooove to make excuses for them but fact is.... 2261 cards...alllll this girls... a hand full not white. Now it is true that I could just stop using this software but truth is, I love it and I've spent to much money on it so I would like for them to start caring for the guys for are wanting some flipping color. Stop acting like I'm asking for to much or at least be honest about why you won't do it.
MrBeeKeeper
Inscrit en Jul 2012

293 message(s)
21 September 2014 (edited)
@itsme33

---- ".. Stop acting like I'm asking for to much or at least be honest about why you won't do it." ----

Seems to me that in this case "ethnicity" boils down to the difference in skin color ..

Well, perhaps some of us do not care too much of ethnicity, because there's nothing wrong with European models (white girls) either, if they look hot and perform well ..

Perhaps we are aware of the truth of finding and hiring new models - it's not an easy task, imo ..

So, if you'd like to see more colored girls, perhaps you should ask Hombre or other artist dudes, is it possible to let some full shows through the Photoshop .. so you could pick the right color as you like .. black girls, green girls, blue ones, red .. rainbow-colored .. would be much cheaper and easier to create for each member individually different skin types, than to seek for a girl with the right skin color in a real world , who perhaps may have no idea about the damn thing (striptease). Who just thinks that being nude on stage means an easy money and fame .. what a waste of time and valuable resources ..

Take this just as a friendly comment (with humor I'd suggest };-))

shodan084
Inscrit en Dec 2007

1652 message(s)
21 September 2014
So you call the team's choices racist... with pie charts. Now you're calling the people who shop here racist. Your reasoning is that the girls that we have got are not ethnic enough for your tastes and anybody that doesn't agree with you is in cahoots with the company?
Company people have put in long hours to find the girls, get them into the country, cast them, film them, debug the cards and publish their card sets.

I've agreed with people in the past about wanting more diversity and I'd do so again, but the way you've chosen to... present your case leaves a large amount to be desired.
91hebasu
Inscrit en Jan 2008

1144 message(s)
21 September 2014
Let's not make assumptions and accusations.

Also, let's not make this personal and start attacking each other.

If this becomes a fight, instead of a discussion, I'll close it.
HombreSinSombra
Inscrit en Oct 2010

1249 message(s)
22 September 2014 (edited)
@Buzzy: I could change the still pics without too much trouble but the clips? Nah! Way out of my skill set :(
So for a little colour, and since Axelle Parker was mentioned, here she is. Gorgeous, huh?

Where's Captain Kirk? He would love this ;)
notdeadyet
Inscrit en Feb 2012

143 message(s)
22 September 2014
Well I don't actually know how many "ethnic" Girls are in my collection
I do know I have mostly Girls with Dark hair and pretty eyes
But that's because im Cypriot by birth and Prefer Dark haired girls

It is natural for us all to be attracted primarily to those who are similar to our own nature.

I also know many people would take offence if I started going round dating outside my own Ethnic Group.
And frankly we all have our own tastes anyway (the only Green woman I ever fancied was SHE HULK)
itsme33
Inscrit en Nov 2009

30 message(s)
22 September 2014
This isn't a attack. I'm the only one who seems to be not dancing around what is clear. Look at my collection. I have a mix of races but I do have a type of girls just like everyone else but unlike you guys, I have to wait a looong time to see something other then white. You guys don't care or mind because you get what you want and I get that but seriously, if you think that this is ok, you are being a part of the problem. The problem being that as a paying customer, one who is asking for what you guys already get and I'm not alone. If it was the other way around, I'll be doing the same thing. I'm biracial, black and white, and this bothers the mess out of me but this time, I wanted to put it upfront. Numbers, plain and simple, based of the sites info. How in the world can you justify that fact that you are in a very mixed country and almost all the girl that you use are all the same race. I'm not hearing that "not much to choose from" mess. That's crap and you know it. As many forums over this same tired subject, you would think it would be different by now but no, go look at Girls Store, Click next till you come to a page with someone with some color and tell me how long it takes. I'm not just some whiner, it's facts. NO ONE has called me wrong, not one but if I gotta be the only one to point it out then so be it. I'm in the elephant in the corner who won't just shut up and let it be.

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