I noticed a lot of cards are rated a lot higher than MUCH higher quality cards on this sight. I understand how this happens though it robs newcommers of an opertunity to really beef up their collections with the good stuff. Anyone out there reading this that is in agreement, that hasn't taken the time to rate the better cards on this sight please do so.(the injustice that prompted this thread was seeing Morgane listed lower than a bunch of 7 or 8 rated cards).

The site changes all the time with new girls coming in, Morgane can't be popular all the time right? and the rating system? Well you can still rate but you can't see the actual ratings on the models anymore.

You can still see the rating of girls in the sort by popularity section. As a newcomer myself i have noticed a lot of discrepancy in the rating of girls, with very high rating for some new mediocre cards and smaller rating for great older cards. The newer cards are better produced and have a much better image quality so that must be a factor too.

I looked at Morgane's cards and all are rated above 9.0 with the highest being 9.38.

There was a time when Morgan's cards were some of the top rated in the whole site. At that time, some people were ***** about Morgane being so popular.

Since I joined 2 years ago (which is less time that the OP), the was at least one time when there was some heavy debate in the forums about how the rating system works and how it should work. If you go to the search funtion and enter the word "ratings" you will see a number of threads debating therating system. It was a real hot topic back then.

What I do agree with is that newer cards seem to be rated a lot higher than a few months ago. A few months ago, any average rating of 9 or over would be regarded as very high. Now it seems the rating has to be 9.5 or over. This is also true of Deskbabes where it is rare to see a card below 9.0.

It makes me think that when we are voting now we are actually voting between 9.1 and 10.0 rather than between 1 and 10. But i am sure Totem would not be so sneaky and dishonest.

I don't know why this is happening. Are newcomers rating higher? Are new cards genuinly regarded as better? Is Totem manipulating the ratings for some reason? I just don't know. I know it is not affected by me because I have not voted on the more recent cards. I also very rarely give a 10 or even a 9 rating. But that is just my voting style.

One thing that is different is that members can only vote on cards that actually own. In the old days, anyone could vote and that possibly lead to some negative troll voting which perhaps doesn't occir so much now.

I also have a theory that people will tend to vote when they really like a card, but may not vote if they are unsure. Who knows?

By the way, you can see the rating of the model, but you must click into the card.

As one who campaigned hard for the change in the system that only allows those who buy cards to rate them, I still think that it is a lot better than the previous system, although it is probably the main reason why most new cards are higher rated than older ones.

And yes - there is some injustice in that many truly fantastic older cards are rated far too low, although I do think the general quality of both footage and performance has improved over the past couple of years. However, I still think the current system is much better than the old one, where any individual could set up as many profiles as they liked and, therefore, rate a card as many times as they liked - leading to "ratings attacks" on specific girls or "ratings hikes" for others - which massively skewed the ratings, making them much more unfair than they are now.

Now under the current system, there are 4 main rating issues as I see it : -

1. Many of those who rate cards are already a fan of the specific girl who's card they are buying and are likely to rate it as 10 anyway, regardless of content.

2. The number of ratings for older cards is usually greater, in many cases by a huge margin (A card released in 2007-2008 will have a lot more owners, and therefore ratings, than a card released in 2010-2011). So average rating tends to be lower for older cards due to sheer weight of numbers.

3. For older cards it is likely that a higher proportion of it's owners are subscribers, who get cards at random and may not necessarily like what they see so much, so they are likely to give lower ratings.

I've noticed something similar when VIP cards are first released. Because VIPs get them automatically for free, and would not necessarily buy them, the initial overall ratings tend to be lower than for non-VIP cards until the effect of buyer ratings kick in some time later.

4. I think some (or perhaps even many) people are still just not very discerning and tend to rate cards based on how much they like the look of the girl, regardless of content or performance (something I always try to avoid when rating and reviewing - although I admit I've been guilty of that in a very few cases).

As I said though, I think the current situation is far better than the old days of ***** and ratings wars instigated by multiple profilers, many of whom didn't even own the cards in question.

The ratings system is just a rough indicator of popularity, and is inaccurate at best and misleading at worst in terms of quality. That is why I always recommend reading the more detailed reviews before you decide to buy a card, rather than just making a decision based on a rating which very likely gives little idea of the actual quality or performance.

The rating-system was meant to be a help for building up a collection.
Well, after start building up my collection i did find out soon that's not really helpfull if some members manipulating the system just for support a model what they meant to be she should be on top.

My tip for newbies: Don't look at ratings orso but build up your collection by use your own good taste for choosing the models you like. ;-)

I never use the rating system to pick girls. I usually pick the daily one ticket special offers where the model and outfit appear to meet my tastes by looking at the preview, the photos and (to a lesser extent) the reviews.

As far as i am concerned the ratings are just a marketing tool.

Great input from all; the issue will however probably remain until the proper/true ratings are reflected on not only the higher quality cards whether new or old, but also the improperly rated newer cards because of a lack of numerical input (total amount of ratings added by those with a less discriminating sense of quality).

We might have to live with the flaws in the current rating system; that dosn't prevent us from restoring some balance with more input. No disrespect meant to the taste of others. I'm just pointing out that it's more difficult to properly rate a card as say a 9 or 10 if all you have are 6 thru 8 quality cards in your collection (no possible proper frame of reference). Reminds me of the time I met a woman who was so gorgeous that I had to nock all others down to a 8.5 to be able to put her at a 10 .

I feel the biggest problem with the rating sytem is this.We are rating on a scale of 1 to 10.But almost all of these girls will register at least a 7 based on their looks alone.So it seems most of us actually are rating on a 1 to 4 scale (7,8,9,or10)This is too limited a scale.We should be able to rate a girl in between the numbers.Say at least using 8.5,9.5,or even 8.25,8.5,8.75.etc.This would allow more flexibility in rating.As there are many girls I have rated 10 just because they were better than 9 but would have only given a 9.5 if I had the chance.Same goes for the 9 and 8 ratings.

We used to be able to see a member's list of "Favorites", but not any more. If we could all rank our Girls, from best (1) to worst (999), the rating system could rank the Girls according to average relative popularity. Someone who knows a little about statistics could set up this kind of a system.