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orclover
Inscrit en Jun 2012
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IMasturbate

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21 March 2024, 73 réponses
I don't even know if I trust those best seller lists anymore, but look at that, most of the shows on that list were cosplay. From what I saw, the cosplay shows have double or triple the ratings which is an indication to me that they sell better. Years ago, maybe around 2017, when XXX cards only came out like once or twice a week, I noticed that all of a sudden, XXX cards would get the cosplay shows. They would be advertised on a big banner on the home page which had to have given them a boost in sales. Even back then I thought it was weird that so many cosplay shows would be XXX. Now it's starting to make sense. They started getting the cosplay shows to artificially boost their numbers so somebody could justify having more XXX shows. I even noticed that back then and actually was worried it might start being a 50/50 ratio. I had no idea they would go as far as 90% XXX though. They have a unique softcore product. Why would they push so hard into the XXX realm with so much competition? Seems foolish and if these ratings are any indication of sales, then the numbers do not justify this move.

Ratings do not equate to sales or more importantly profit per girl. We also do not know the agent/girl/totem interaction. What if the girls ask for more table clips with xxx? The girls may want the extra pay that xxx/anal generally brings in the industry. Totem historically has struggled to recruit great talent at all times of the year...their CEO has ***** about this multiple times. The way that it is set up might help them create a better experience for the girls, less rigorous than 4-5 hours on their feet dancing per day. My suspicion is they began creating themes for cards to manage the exhaustion of the girls. One card, all dance. Another card 4 xxx, another 3, another 2. Some cards are half table time and so on. The one thing that seems to have worked is they are getting girls in for 4-7 reshoots(I don't like it but it shows totem creates a positive experience for the girls). Reshoots were pretty rare when it was 6 dance cards.
redforleather
Inscrit en Jan 2009
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IMasturbate

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21 March 2024, 73 réponses
It seems like XXX cards started being focused on heavily during the pandemic.Not quite true.There were fewer XXX cards in 2020 (133) than there were in 2019 (160) and 2021 (227).The main decline in XXX cards was around the switch from VG to iStripper. At that time I believe Totem said the XXX cards were not profitable, in particular the duo cards (which is a shame for me because that is the XXX content I really prefer).In 2016 there were only 53 XXX cards released however it looks like Totem had a change of heart because the number of XXX cards has been steadily climbing since the low point in 2016.And yes - I find some of the XXX solo scenes somewhat boring (paticulalry when you have 3 off or 4 off six minute long clips) and I would prefer a bit more "striptease" content.

In adding to that, I believe that also around that time 2016, maybe a bit later, they switched from the full xxx cards that had only table clips and three xxx shows in one card roughly (each show with a consecutive "arc" of 3-4 scenes), to ones that had non-xxx scenes, standing/pole/table full nudity, in a way leading up to the xxx scenes at the end. I actually liked that kind more - now some of the xxx cards only seem to have perfunctory non-xxx standing scenes, which is a bit of a shame if you like the mix, and you don't know the ratio in advance of buying the card; some are described as table-only shows which I appreciate for transparency, and some get the mix quite right to my opinion.

I think that over the long run, if models do several takes, istripper is more happy seeing them all do some xxx content, if only that they think (and maybe have the numbers to back it up) that this diversifies the sales. All of that is to say, yes there is more xxx content now than if you go way back to VGHD (at least that's what my memory tells me, and back then the cards only were named "model name solo") but for a few years now the xxx card has meant something different than it did back then, and that started out with each xxx - card having more non-xxx content, because people appeared to be getting bored with it. Let's see where the trend goes to next.
Socialhazard
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orclover
Inscrit en Jun 2012
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20 March 2024, 73 réponses
Nonsense. Like I said, the decades worth of non-XXX shows prove you otherwise. If their shows are so boring then why are they rated so high? Sitting down and masturbating with a dildo for 6 shows is fucking boring. The stripping shows aren't all about dancing skills anyway. Being hot is the most important thing for me, and I don't want to see hot girls sitting down blocking their privates with a toy for 20 minutes. And even if the XXX shows sell better now, I strongly doubt they sell that much more to justify a whopping 90/10% ratio. Insane! There is something fishy going on...

VGHD went bankrupt or nearly so, the product is thriving with the new format relative to VGHD. I agree that 5xxx shows can become boring but there is more diversity that can be done with a xxx show than a non-xxx show. You might find Gloria hot, I do not and her shows bore me and are deleted. That is the problem...people have different interests and istripper have to create a set of cards that interests the most people. You, who love non-xxx will still buy 5 cards because you will still get value from each card. People who love xxx will buy 4 cards...people who love dildos will buy two cards, people who love masturbation only will buy 1 card. People who love cosplay will buy 1 card. People who love pole....you get the point. I do dislike when they don't script cards to hit certain skill sets. Like if a girl is a pole dancer but she has one pole clip...or a girl twerks but only does it on one card, or a girl does the splits but only does it sparingly. Heck, did you know Carolina Abril actually can do acrobatic pole work? She does it once in one clip on one card. That is where I am like ...wtf?
Captain15
Inscrit en May 2015
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20 March 2024, 73 réponses
Most girls are not trained in dance in any sort of way, whether club, pole, ballet. twerk, belly, ....dance is a specific skill that takes time to master. Most girls are models and have more training in using toys to perform sex shows than any dance. This is where istipper being a niche product *****, as the girls generally do not dance for other products. Even webcam girls rarely dance on cam. XXX shows provide the girls an avenue to feel comfortable and perform in a way more similar to their other shoots. I wish totem invested more time into training and scripting shows but the girls need to complete 6 shows, with 5 costume/hair/makeup changes, a VR shoot, a photo-shoot, paper-work, lunch in two days. Basically the girls aren't trained enough to perform dance only shows, to maintain interest from enough of the customer base. People want xxx, partially because girls perform best at xxx, as they are mostly all erotic models, not dancers. Totem tried idancer, it didn't work because the professional dancers didn't want to be nude, and people didn't want to pay for clothed professional dancers. We just have to hope they shoot more non-xxx for the few pro dancers they do get.

You make an interesting point, but I don't buy it. Looking back at the catalog for almost 2 decades, they seem to have had no problem acquiring the top talent in the adult entertainment industry from many genres (nude modeling, porn, actual real strippers, etc.) I've been here since about 2015-2016. That year and the few years after it, this site was at it's peak, in my opinion. Super hot model after model were being booked, top notch such as Gloria, and Mila Azul, and many others. During this time, there is no way in hell the XXX cards were selling better. And yet, almost every cosplay card would be XXX and promoted on the home page.

I don't have the hard data, but my gut is telling me that from what I've seen, the push in XXX shows is unnatural and might not even be tied to sales (at least when it first started around 2018 or so). I could see them making a decision to at least try and please everybody and going 50/50 with XXX and non-XXX. But it is now 90% XXX. That is almost a slap in the face to their core customers, who've many, like myself have spent thousands on their product over the years. Now most of the new models have only XXX shows and that is ridiculous. Hey, I at least have saved a ton of money these last few years. But still.... not cool, Totem.
orclover
Inscrit en Jun 2012
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19 March 2024, 73 réponses
I know others have talked and ***** about the ridiculous amount of XXX shows, but I would like to know how this happened. After seeing these ads for years, I finally bit and tried the app out because the ad was for a Sabrisse show, and I recognized and liked the model. This was right in the beginning of the crystal clear and animation phase and I was pleasantly surpised by how great this app is. I have since then bought every single non-XXX crystal clear show and it still feels worth it to me. I bought a bunch of XXX cards in the beginning, too, but I stopped buying them altogether because they were all disappointments to me. 2 or 3 years ago, I started to see them pushing the XXX cards more. Almost all of the home page advertised cosplay shows were XXX and it was getting close to 50/50 XXX and non-XXX cards (which was still way too many XXX cards in my opinion). It is now 90% XXX and I wouldn't be surprised if they cut non-XXX altogether. This program has been around for a long time and the XXX cards have always been there. Why are they all of a sudden selling so well now? I know there are obvious reasons such as a push from Totem ***** them into the cosplay cards (cosplay and XXX is a bad mix, too) and advertising them on the home page more, but what changed?I've seen people argue that both XXX and non-XXX shows are nothing new and can be found anywhere on the internet but I disagree. Sure, there are nude modeling sites with stripping videos but they are constantly edited with cuts and face zoom-ins etc. A static shot of the entire model stripping with this kind of quality is unique. The XXX shows are the most low-effort, amateurish content on the internet. All a woman needs is a webcam and she can put on a masturbation show on any of the dozens of webcam sites. The stripping and dancing is the core of this app, it made it what it was and I'm watching the best softcore content on the internet slowly disappear into generic, amateur, dime-a-dozen content. Does anyone know how this happened? Is it because somebody in charge at Totem just has a fetish for webcam shows?

Most girls are not trained in dance in any sort of way, whether club, pole, ballet. twerk, belly, ....dance is a specific skill that takes time to master. Most girls are models and have more training in using toys to perform sex shows than any dance. This is where istipper being a niche product *****, as the girls generally do not dance for other products. Even webcam girls rarely dance on cam. XXX shows provide the girls an avenue to feel comfortable and perform in a way more similar to their other shoots. I wish totem invested more time into training and scripting shows but the girls need to complete 6 shows, with 5 costume/hair/makeup changes, a VR shoot, a photo-shoot, paper-work, lunch in two days. Basically the girls aren't trained enough to perform dance only shows, to maintain interest from enough of the customer base. People want xxx, partially because girls perform best at xxx, as they are mostly all erotic models, not dancers. Totem tried idancer, it didn't work because the professional dancers didn't want to be nude, and people didn't want to pay for clothed professional dancers. We just have to hope they shoot more non-xxx for the few pro dancers they do get.
Captain15
Inscrit en May 2015
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IMasturbate

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17 March 2024, 73 réponses
I know others have talked and ***** about the ridiculous amount of XXX shows, but I would like to know how this happened. After seeing these ads for years, I finally bit and tried the app out because the ad was for a Sabrisse show, and I recognized and liked the model. This was right in the beginning of the crystal clear and animation phase and I was pleasantly surpised by how great this app is. I have since then bought every single non-XXX crystal clear show and it still feels worth it to me. I bought a bunch of XXX cards in the beginning, too, but I stopped buying them altogether because they were all disappointments to me.

2 or 3 years ago, I started to see them pushing the XXX cards more. Almost all of the home page advertised cosplay shows were XXX and it was getting close to 50/50 XXX and non-XXX cards (which was still way too many XXX cards in my opinion). It is now 90% XXX and I wouldn't be surprised if they cut non-XXX altogether. This program has been around for a long time and the XXX cards have always been there. Why are they all of a sudden selling so well now? I know there are obvious reasons such as a push from Totem ***** them into the cosplay cards (cosplay and XXX is a bad mix, too) and advertising them on the home page more, but what changed?

I've seen people argue that both XXX and non-XXX shows are nothing new and can be found anywhere on the internet but I disagree. Sure, there are nude modeling sites with stripping videos but they are constantly edited with cuts and face zoom-ins etc. A static shot of the entire model stripping with this kind of quality is unique. The XXX shows are the most low-effort, amateurish content on the internet. All a woman needs is a webcam and she can put on a masturbation show on any of the dozens of webcam sites. The stripping and dancing is the core of this app, it made it what it was and I'm watching the best softcore content on the internet slowly disappear into generic, amateur, dime-a-dozen content. Does anyone know how this happened? Is it because somebody in charge at Totem just has a fetish for webcam shows?
Alkasyn
Inscrit en Apr 2008
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16 March 2024, 84 réponses
If you press the quote button on the right hand side of someone else's message, you'll be able to quote their message in your post ;)Happy to see we're on the same page - but it seems to me that the majority of customers isn't.If I compare cards from long ago, there was much more non-nude and non-XXX. And I enjoyed them more, could actually have them running in the background as I wored - can't have that with straight up hardcore porn (so that's why I'd delete or at least untick taskbar clips). But the company drifted in the direction of XXX - maybe the failed iDancer project also influenced that, who knows. I can only speak for myself - there's not a lot that makes me excited in the product anymore, but since I'm not a great spender (and my tier of customers probably's the same - we don't provide much income to the company anymore), it goes unnoticed.This is a fair point. I find it hard to remember there are so many different types of customers. We are the exact opposite in our likes, I delete any card with too many non-nude. I don't want all xxx but I don't mind a few clips. I like the the current direction of having more xxx, although 80-100% of cards being so is too much. They have a lot more cosplay and costumes, which is ok, although I think it inhibits the most talented girls. But the reality we only spend $10 a month for the service at most, even if we have already spent thousands. They have to be focused on pumping out 10 cards a week so they can keep running NFT, SEC, EX...they will have customers spend more for Julia Graff SEC than I have spent in years. So my voice can't matter that much.

Exactly the bolded bit above. What we do doesn't matter much, IMO. Not anymore.

And yes, in the past two types of customers (you vs me) could coexist - but not in this new environment, I'm afraid.

The fact theres no competition in this market makes me either suck it up or leave - no other option. EDIT: One more thin I forgot about - some of the costumes in the cosplay shows are simply a waste of space - not becuase they're bad quality, buit because the model immediately drops them and starts maturbating, so the costume's not even used much - e.g Melody Marks maid show,

I think with the way the coming soon page has been looking last 2-3 weeks it's very likely non-xxx cards are just going to stop altogether. Once again I don't mind if these cards are more balanced to have plenty of sequential dancing/stripping/teasing etc leading up to the xxx finish.

I don't think that's going to happen.

Some girls (Lana, Rocky Di, for example) simply don't want to do XXX - and we will continue getting them (albeit rarely - most of the non-XXX models that come to mind got some less favourable reviews and weren't invited for a second take - Lana is an exception), so the non-XXX category will have some models, just a very small number.