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How to choose a computer and graphics card for 4k

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TallandSlimMan
Joined in Apr 2008

466 post(s)
November 24, 2021
My current desktop computer is pretty old...eight years I think. But it seems to do a pretty good job of rendering 4K cards. It does struggle with more than two models at once and the "sex on the beach" 4 model card.

My current graphics card is a one gb Nvidia. I see that top of the line graphics cards are 10 or 12 gb. My question: would I notice a step up in 4k quality with a newer card? If so, is there an appreciable difference from say 8 gb to 12 gb? I do have a 4k monitor.
Stanston
Joined in Aug 2018

1013 post(s)
November 24, 2021
How much GPU Memory do you REALLY need?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vuFU_EF-38

GPU Prices: Getting Worse or Getting Better? - October 2021 Update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUictr3wT2U

GPU Prices: Still Getting Worse, Or Improving? - November 2021 Update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXe9AjqLJ1E
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2008

3997 post(s)
November 24, 2021
in the latest Version series, there has been a move to utilize the GPU for desktop rendering.
It currently is in beta and doesn't provide the same performance benefit as does the Full Screen Scenes.

For now, the Desktop mode relies mostly on the CPU and Memory
So the Choice of Mobo, CPU and Memory are More important than the GPU performance.
High, Single Core, Single Threaded CPU Test performance is what you want.

hypothetical example:
two CPUs rated the same speed.
A 12 core, 24 thread CPU might Smoke a 2 core 4 thread CPU in Game performance,
but the 2 Core CPU might Smoke the 12 core CPU in Single Core performance.

Thus the 2 Core would be better for iStripper in it's current configuration.



iStripper is still a 32bit app, and thus can only access at MOST 4GB of Memory
but in Practical Application I'd put this limit closer to 3.2GB to 3.5GB

Each Clip is Fully decoded into Memory as it is played, or Before it is played.
So the Combined total of All clips being Played Must take up Less than 3.5GB of Memory.

720p, 1080p, and 3K, even with 10 clips at a time, stayed within this limit.

But with the Introduction of 4K
6 or More clips depending on clip size, will exceed this limit.
The App does have some built in detection, But if Two or more Clips start at the same time
They will not yet see the Memory being used by the others.
and there is a chance of Overrunning the available Memory and experiencing a crash.

How can you tell how much Memory a Clip is Using?
remove the check mark from Clip Streaming.
Open Task Manager and check the Memory usage by vghd.exe

Start a Clip
if you are above Platinum Level
Pause the clip
Check the Memory usage,
the before and after is how much Memory that clip is using.

If you turn off iStripper, the memory should drop back to about where it was before.

Now if you compare the memory used to the Clip file size, that gives you an Idea of the Compression
of the files.

you should be able to then use that to approximate
the Memory requirements of the other clips.




TallandSlimMan
Joined in Apr 2008

466 post(s)
November 24, 2021
Thanks to Stanston for the you tube video...the first one was really educational.

And Wyldanimal....great explanation. You must type 100 plus words per minute! I had to look up "Mobo"...thought that was a typo, but a search revealed it as shorthand for mother board. Very interesting as to how Istripper utilizes components.

reddeth71
Joined in Jul 2012

47 post(s)
November 30, 2021
So how would a Intel Celeron 2 core processor work ? G5925 3.6 Ghz
reddeth71
Joined in Jul 2012

47 post(s)
November 30, 2021
On Newegg I looked for a single core single thread and the Intel Celeron was the smallest at2 core 2 threads so with 16 gb of ram be good to run 3 models at 1080 ?
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2008

3997 post(s)
November 30, 2021 (edited)
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2008

3997 post(s)
November 30, 2021
I'm looking for a CPU limiter so you can try out an App
by Limiting the CPU usage.

so Far this is one I found
https://bitsum.com/get-lasso-pro/

reddeth71
Joined in Jul 2012

47 post(s)
December 1, 2021
My current PC I made with a Ryzen 5 3600x I dont have any issuses but I dont want to use my gaming PC for Istripper . I hve been looking a Pre built PC and came across one that has WIN11and the Celeron I mentioned . plus it has 16gb ram . Are you trying to limit the CPU with that APP so Istripper will run better ? Thanks for the advice everyone !
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2008

3997 post(s)
December 1, 2021
Are you trying to limit the CPU with that APP so Istripper will run better ?
No, to test to see how it will run on a fast dual core CPU..
What limitations to expect?

On my Ryzen 5 3600
I can manage 10 girls in 3K with no Issues.
But I see One or two Threads doing most of the Work...

What if I only had two cores
how many 3K cards can I play before it starts to slow down?

That's why I was looking for a CPU limiter app.




Evaneself
Joined in Dec 2019

359 post(s)
December 5, 2021
i9 9900K works very good if you don't have a video card.
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2008

3997 post(s)
December 6, 2021
i9 9900K works very good if you don't have a video card.
I sort of though this was about a budget Build

Isn't that about an $850 CPU?
Stanston
Joined in Aug 2018

1013 post(s)
December 6, 2021
I sort of though this was about a budget Build
Isn't that about an $850 CPU?
Depending where you can get it, but it's indeed expensive if we are talking from a Budget Build.

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/6331695_-core-i9-9900k-box-sockel-1151-14nm-bx80684i99900k-intel.html

But you can always do a compare of course.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=intel+i9-9900k+vs+ryzen+9+3900x
Evaneself
Joined in Dec 2019

359 post(s)
December 7, 2021
i9 9900K works very good if you don't have a video card.I sort of though this was about a budget Build

Isn't that about an $850 CPU?

In my country is 605 Euro

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