I've been kind of just skimming this thread so i ask...

Do we have anything concrete right now about the elimination of the cashback due to gift cards?
Or is it still speculation because we haven't seen it in a while?

I think taking it away would be a blow if for no other reason than cost.
As of right now i think the only way to get gift cards is to play the games.
15 credits minimum to move a progression bar, and that's no matter if you win something or not with that 15 credits.

With Cashback if your a triple diamond it's 13.75, you know what your getting and the goal is reached in 5 steps.
I think it takes more than 75 credits to fill the bar, let alone if you get anything along the way.

I don't think the cashback offer is definitely gone. Since we haven't seen it for about 7 months, it will probably be back quite soon.
It seems they want new members to see gambling and getting random cards as the norm and the best way to get discounts. Only Totem knows if designing "promos" for members with small collections instead of appealing to long time (double/triple) diamond members is paying off.

About the gift card bar, we've figured out it takes around 500 credits to be filled. I've spent 185 credits on the "free packs" and that's about a third of it.

About the gift card bar, we've figured out it takes around 500 credits to be filled

@arise77 we certainly did.

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And after that third time through progress bar for me that was enough - not a joker in site which there is no way to get in a cashback offer. Keeping my credits dry now for the next promo - unless a pretty lady walks on by on the previews that I want.

I don't think the cashback offer is definitely gone. Since we haven't seen it for about 7 months, it will probably be back quite soon.

I dont think its gone either. Something is telling me cashback is coming up for next week. Hopefully its not cashback-5, but the old beloved cashback-4

Upfront, I love iStripper in all its glory as well as what it stands for, and I even understand that a certain economical reasoning always has to be considered by them all the while. But yeah, I totally agree that it seems kind of fishy that last year we got asked first, hey, what promotion do you like the most (the Cashback), and then EXACTLY this promotion gets kind of nuked. Seriously, this seems quite odd. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that some other promotions are per se bad, like the Slot Machine (during the Black Friday promotion, with good discounts) was really good, or recently the Discount Wheel was nice for me as well. For anyone wondering (the price-sensitive kind), just respin those a fixed time (like 3-4 times), and if the discounts are bad, just stop. In my case, I redrew every time with 10 percent, considered 20% only if all the cards were interesting, thought longer about those with 35%, but with 50 or 70% they were a no-brainer. Actually last time I used the wheel, I got an average 9 point cost for all cards this way, spending around 400 credits (also getting a gift card). This ratio seems quite fair to me, actually. I only took cards I liked, dismissed everything I didn’t. The important thing here really is CHOICE, while having the feeling, that you get cherished as a customer. And that’s something Totem should work on. So, long speech (don’t blame you if you didn’t follow me), but really, bring back the Cashback promotion. It just adds to the system for people like me. I don’t like to spend money for nothing, like those scratch cards, free packs or anything. I want a fair choice. I’m willing to pay, but really, only for stuff that I like. And believe me, in the long-run this absolutely is the better business strategy. Let the people who like to gamble, gamble (but with insane chances), but also let the considerate people do their own thing.

Currently there is a 20% reload bonus running - i.e. if you buy credits you get an extra 20% - which is, if anything, a rather better offer than Cashback as you can use those extra credits on any normal card including the most recent 45 and those not yet released. Furthermore you can effectively combine it with other offers such as the regular flash sales of previews or any of the games.

Currently there is a 20% reload bonus running - i.e. if you buy credits you get an extra 20% - which is, if anything, a rather better offer than Cashback as you can use those extra credits on any normal card including the most recent 45 and those not yet released. Furthermore you can effectively combine it with other offers such as the regular flash sales of previews or any of the games.

Cashback was never limited by card age.

Furthermore, you could use bonus reload-bought creditso n the cashback offer, furthre increasing your saving.

@Alkasyn - of course you ae right about the cashback has, in the past, been available for all released cards - but it does not cover "next week's cards or next month's cards".

I still find is surprising that people ***** about the lack of one offer when a slightly better one is currently available - but I suppose there will always be people that say "give me more for a lower price" no matter what is on offer.

Furthermore, you could use bonus reload-bought creditso n the cashback offer, furthre increasing your saving.

Which I actually pointed out myself - my real point in doing so was that you can't combine the cashback with other TGF offers which is one reason why the reload bonus is a better offer.

Il n'est pas question des cartes à venir mais d'agrandir sa collection à prix réduit avec des cartes mises en wishlist.
Cashback 3+1 gratuite donne 25%, Cashback 4+1 donne 20%, donc pas moins intéressant que le bonus de recharge.
Bien sûr il y aura toujours des membres prêts à défendre l'entreprise quoiqu'elle propose.
It is not a question of the cards to come but to expand its collection at a reduced price with wishlisted cards.
Cashback 3 + 1 free gives 25%, Cashback 4 + 1 gives 20%, so no less interesting than the reload bonus.
Of course there will always be members ready to defend the company whatever it proposes.

Cashback 3 + 1 free gives 25%, Cashback 4 + 1 gives 20%, so no less interesting than the reload bonus.

Agreed - and Cashback 2+1 would be even more interresting. However, I assume that Totem found that 3+1 was not in their own best interrest so they changed it to be more in line with their other offers. There is such a thing as being too generous and thereby losing out.

Why do you think I am defending anything rather than poorly trying to highlight rather basic business "facts of life".

Exact et cette réduction peut être encore plus intéressante si vous combiner des cartes de collections différentes.
Je ne sais pas ce que vous défendez, juste une demande pour le retour du Cashback içi qui semble manquer à plusieurs membres. Et je ne crois pas avoir vu de demandes pour un Cashback 2+1 ou 1+1 ou même tout gratuit.
La seule réponse valable à ce genre de débat serait celle de totem lui même. Qui sait? Nous en aurons peut-être une?
Correct and this reduction can be even more interesting if you combine cards from different collections.
I do not know what you are defending, just a request for the return of Cashback here which seems to be missing by several members. And I don't believe I've seen any requests for 2 + 1 or 1 + 1 or even all free Cashback.
The only valid answer to this kind of debate would be that of totem pole itself. Who knows? Maybe we will have one?

I do not know what you are defending

That is because I am not defending anything.

My position is that businesses are not there to provide maximum benefit to their customers as some posters seem to think they should.

I think that cashback offers will still occasionaly be seen (because they temporarily benefit Totem) but that we can not, and should not, expect them to be common because that would be detrimental to Totem's profitability (because if they are seen too often they would effectively become almost equivalent to a permanent price reduction).

Je pense que les offres de cashback seront encore occasionnellement vu (parce qu’ils bénéficient temporairement Totem), mais que nous ne pouvons pas, et ne devrions pas, s’attendre à ce qu’ils soient communs parce que ce serait préjudiciable à la rentabilité de Totem (parce que si elles sont vues trop souvent, ils deviendrait effectivement presque équivalent à une réduction permanente des
prix).

C'est possible que l'offre revienne occasionnellement, nous verrons, Préjudiciable, je ne sais pas puisque totem l'a mise en place auparavant, je ne pense pas qu'il l'ai fait a perte.
It is possible that the offer will come back occasionally, we will see, Prejudicial, I don't know since totem put it in place before, I don't think he did it at a loss.

Ma position est que les entreprises ne sont pas là pour fournir un maximum d’avantages à leurs clients que certaines affiches semblent penser qu’ils
devraient.

Ceci est juste, mais du point de vue de l'entreprise, le client demandera toujours des ristournes ou des avantages dans toute transaction commerciale. C'est la vie comme ça.
This is fair, but from a business point of view, the customer will always ask for discounts or benefits in any business transaction. It's life like that.

It is possible that the offer will come back occasionally, we will see, Prejudicial, I don't know since totem put it in place before, I don't think he did it at a loss.

Nor do I - but if it was offered every week then it would be almost equivalent to a simple price reduction and hence likely to reduce profitability (assuming that the regular prices are close to optimal). I have no idea what the optimum frequency should be - less often than every week but probably more often than once a year - and its also probably best for Totem if it is not predicable when it will be offered.

This is fair, but from a business point of view, the customer will always ask for discounts or benefits in any business transaction. It's life like that.

Exactly - but some here just do not seem to understand that what they want is not always good for both sides.

Donc modération et réalisme de part et d'autre et tout ira bien.
N'oublions pas, client heureux et entreprise heureuse font la réussite.
Parfois un petit geste peut faire une grande différence.
So moderation and realism on both sides and everything will be fine.
Let's not forget, happy customers and happy businesses make success.
Sometimes a small gesture can make a big difference.

So moderation and realism on both sides and everything will be fine.
Let's not forget, happy customers and happy businesses make success.
Sometimes a small gesture can make a big difference.

Again, agreed - and pretty well the point I have been making. A business typically wants happy customers, but not at all costs.

Sometimes a small gesture can make a big difference.

but if the gesture is too big (too generous) it can be expensive.

and the casino continues

and the casino continues

Just don't play, we don't have any other recourse :)

and the casino continues

EXACTLY!! I knew it would be the same....