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Twenty Five & new Free packs - Q&A

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Philours
Joined in Feb 2019

1647 post(s)
April 2, 2021
Bonjour, je me demandais comment ce passe le jeu "25" pour quelqu'un qui aurait déjà toutes les SEC?
Peut-il jouer? Et dans ce cas s'il aligne 3 étoiles, quel sera son gain?
Ou les chances de remporter un joker sont elles augmentées?
Hello, I was wondering how is the game "25" for someone who already has all the SEC?
Can he play? And in this case if it aligns 3 stars, what will be its gain?
Or are the chances of winning a joker increased?
Ironxside
Joined in Aug 2019

84 post(s)
April 2, 2021
Six months after his last appearance, the cashback was given up for dead by the coroner, even though his body has not yet been found.
The sad announcement is given by the many users who last year voted this as their favorite promotion....
Happy Easter
Ullubu
Joined in Dec 2011

748 post(s)
April 2, 2021
Hello, I was wondering how is the game "25" for someone who already has all the SEC?
Can he play? And in this case if it aligns 3 stars, what will be its gain?
Or are the chances of winning a joker increased?

I have all SECs and played only once and got a joker card. I think that's all luck for today and I stop playing.
Philours
Joined in Feb 2019

1647 post(s)
April 2, 2021
played only once and got a joker card.
👍 @Ullubu
Donc c'est encore possible de jouer. Merci pour ta réponse.
Il semblerait néanmoins que plus vous avez de cartes , voire une collection complète, plus vous êtes exclu des jeux 😕
👍 @Ullubu
So it's still possible to play. Thank you for your answer.
It would seem, however, that the more cards you have, or even a complete collection, the more you are excluded from the games 😕
henrylee7
Joined in May 2020

193 post(s)
April 2, 2021
There is probably no new SEC card to be won this week. So for those who have all SEC cards in advance, it is rather no attraction :-)
ward666999
Joined in Feb 2019

145 post(s)
April 2, 2021 (edited)
50 plus plays and 9 minutes resulted in balance loss of 105 credits and gain of 4 gift cards with one of those by progress bar.
No Joker card sadly and overall loss of 45.
wrightsayswow
Joined in Jul 2020

1158 post(s)
April 2, 2021
20 plays of the 25 game. Up 25 credits. 2 more gift cards. 3 more unwanted cards. Only ahead because of a single 150 credit gain. Think that's enough for today. Plenty of time to play for those shy jokers.
arise77
Joined in Mar 2008

196 post(s)
April 2, 2021
Hello,
have we figured out how many credits you need to fill in the gift card bar?

About "free packs" it seems to be cards selected from your wishlist; in the first set of cards there are 2 out of 3. Is it 2 cards from your wishlist + one random card in every set?
What about the free cards, are they also selected from your wishlist? All of them? If not how many of them?

@Ironxside I think if we ask for the cashback promo, we should have it sometime soon. I remember some members asked for a discount on all 2020 cards and we got it. I agree with you it's been a while, but it should come back eventually.
Ironxside
Joined in Aug 2019

84 post(s)
April 3, 2021
Two cards from my wishlist, that as Triple Diamond member I could pay 19.80 credits, plus an unsolicited very old card (released on 2/25/08): total 25.74 credits (with 10% discount...).
So my question is: why should i buy them? To "win" after another two shopping like this an unknown single card (certainly very old) ?
Maybe if the game was worth the candle I could also play ....
But for these two weeks I'll do without it: thanks Totem.
batavus
Joined in Nov 2019

218 post(s)
April 3, 2021
That's why I won't play the "free packs"-game. I played it once or twice with no satisfaction. You always get so many cards you don't want. I decided to play only when I need a joker. By playing a game you get so many cards and lots of them you don't want. And I still have 5 jokers so playing a game is not for me, not now, not in the near future.
I buy the cards myself, much cheaper.
arise77
Joined in Mar 2008

196 post(s)
April 3, 2021 (edited)
At least compared to gambling, "free packs" offer is actually a promo. It can be worth it for any member who doesn't have a full collection, depending on how many cards are chosen from your wishlist. Plus if you can get a gift card along the way, could be a good deal.
However there are still a few unknowns, which I already mentioned in my previous post:
  • the amount of credits needed to fill in the bar
  • the number or % of wishlisted cards included in each set
  • if free cards are wanted of just random cards
Does anyone have any insight on these?
wrightsayswow
Joined in Jul 2020

1158 post(s)
April 3, 2021
My starting three - the two older cards are on my wishlist and I could buy for 8.8 each anytime.
The Randy Ayn card - have you seen how bored she looks in the previews!
I've already dumped three of her other cards. Don't need another, but will probably get dumped on me at some point.
Stanston
Joined in Aug 2018

1012 post(s)
April 3, 2021
@arise77
It can be worth it for any member who doesn't have a full collection
The Free Pack Promo is actually worth for every Member which doesn't have a full Collection,
or at least which is a completely new Member on iStripper.

I was always glad about these kind of Promos, and if it was possible i was always
taking Advantage of them every time. See one of my Comments from 2020 here for example.
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/37892/4?post=656742
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Not only the smile 😉 That's for sure 😀 OT And also this is what happend when you decide to lay your Hands on the Booster Packs or the Redraw Packs. You can't decide by yourself the Card's you get, but...
So i would like to give you at least to this a Response and share my Experience with you.

I still remember, before i took the first Time Advantage on the Free Pack Promo,
i had not less Cards on my Wish List already.

But not every time, Cards which were on my Wish List appeared inside the Free Pack Promo,
it was completely Random, and i still can remember slightly on this.
And sometimes, none of the Cards from my Wish List, were inside the Free Pack Promo.

So it was completely Random, but sometimes and as you can see on my Posting from the past,
i was really Lucky and glad about the unexpected Gift.

But, i was also aware of the Fact that at some Point Cards will appear inside
the Free Packs Promo which i don't wont to Buy, and it was the case at some Point.

Because i can't play the 720p Cards on my actual Setup, and to be honest
i'm only interested in the higher Resolution Cards (1080p, CC and CC+).

So i made for myself a compromise, if a Promo is not worth it for me to participate in it,
i'm spending my Credits on the Girls Store for the Price of the Shows.
Which everyone of us can do anytime by the way.

And beside the Discount from the Free Packs Promo, your Discount from your Member Level Status
(Gold, Platinum, Diamond or whatever) is also on Top of that.

And here is another Advantage from this. You can check the Cards before you Buy a Pack.
Just click on the Cardimage, you will land on the Preview Page for the Model,
and just Download the Preview. This is not possible with the Progression Packs,
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So ya the Free Pack Promo is absolutely worth for every Member which doesn't have a full Collection.
or is at least a completely new Member on iStripper.
arise77
Joined in Mar 2008

196 post(s)
April 3, 2021
@Stanton Thanks for trying to help by sharing your experience. 👍
So if I get it right, the number of cards from your wishlist is uneven every time and there could also be none.
Have you calculated on average what is the % of wishlisted cards?
There are 48 cards in total, do you think it could be half of them? Maybe more?
I suspect since the discount level is higher than in the past that there would be more random cards this time.
wrightsayswow
Joined in Jul 2020

1158 post(s)
April 3, 2021
Now played 80 plays of the 25 game. Net spend 370 credits. 13 more gift cards + 2 from progress bar. 7 unwanted cards. 6 wishlisted cards. 4 cards undecided yet to keep or not. No SEC. No Joker. Most of the time (83% for me so far) you either win back your 15 credits or more (46%), win a gift card (16%) or random card (21%).
So average cost per card is 12.33 credits - so over paying for older cards yes, but since I like many of them anyway that's fine for me.
Still plenty of time to play for those shy jokers.
Stanston
Joined in Aug 2018

1012 post(s)
April 3, 2021
Thanks for trying to help by sharing your experience. 👍
No problem @arise77 :)
So if I get it right, the number of cards from your wishlist is uneven every time
and there could also be none.
Correct 👌 at least for the past Free Packs which i have bought, i have no Idea about the new ones.
Have you calculated on average what is the % of wishlisted cards?
I was never good in Math in School so calculating with Numbers was never my favourite thing.
There are 48 cards in total, do you think it could be half of them? Maybe more?
I don't know and like i was saying before the Free Pack Promos were a way for me to Build up
my Collection as fast as possible in the past.
The plan was working pretty good until the first Cards in 720p were showing up
at some point inside the Free Packs. But like mentioned before, no Option for me any more,
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and because of the lower Quality as well.

From there on my way was only to go in the Girls Store with my Credits.
As far as i can tell, i was be able to take Advantage of two maybe three Cashback Offers in 2020,
but not on all four.
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But there were not much left in the Store for me, so gladly i could get them all.

For myself there are now 457 Shows left in the Store, incl. all new Shows from now on.
But my Account is already reloaded and Auto Buy is activated.

And for the 457 Shows ... i'm getting there ... i'm getting there ... at some point : )

In Fact as a long Term Member with an specific Amount of Shows in your Collection,
and without the Plan to Hunt the SEC's, spend your Credits on the Store.

And for the SEC Cards, in my Opinion the Rules are pretty clear.
And as far as i can see it from the T&C (Remember the small Hook during the Software Installation),
YOU FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THE CREDIT SYSTEM HAVE
NO MONETARY VALUE AND CANNOT BE REDEEMED FOR CASH.
NO REFUNDS WILL BE MADE FOR THE PURCHASE OF CREDITS.
so everyone of us should be aware of this. So in that case i made my Decision already
and also since a while longer how to spend my Credits on iStripper.
And this is my way > https://www.istripper.com/store

But this does not mean that i will not take Advantage on the one or the other Offer in the Future,
but i think i'm grown up enough to make my own Decisions about that.

And for the Gambling Games, some people might forget that Gambling is Fun for the one or
the other single Individual. And iStripper is in Fact an Entertainment Platform.
So i would say live and let live.
wrightsayswow
Joined in Jul 2020

1158 post(s)
April 3, 2021
Now played 80 plays of the 25 game. Net spend 370 credits. 13 more gift cards + 2 from progress bar. 7 unwanted cards. 6 wishlisted cards. 4 cards undecided yet to keep or not. No SEC. No Joker. Most of the time (83% for me so far) you either win back your 15 credits or more (46%), win a gift card (16%) or random card (21%).
So average cost per card is 12.33 credits - so over paying for older cards yes, but since I like many of them anyway that's fine for me.
Still plenty of time to play for those shy jokers.

Good job none of this is really imporant - I forgot to include the two gift cards I got on the progress bar!
So it's actually a better average cost per card 370/32 = 11.56 credits at the moment.
Of course next play I might win 150 credits and that comes right down, but probably won't. Just a game.
Support bubble calling - see you later!
TheEmu
Joined in Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
April 3, 2021 (edited)
Good job none of this is really imporant - I forgot to include the two gift cards I got on the progress bar!
So it's actually a better average cost per card 370/32 = 11.56 credits at the moment.

It is far too small a sample to be significant but this is weak, very weak, support for a hypothesis I have become to think is moderately likely - namely that for triple diamond members the games, on average, neither favour the player nor Totem or at least that any such bias is small (as long as you are not fussy about which cards you win). If this i so, and it fits my experience, then for lower level members the games will actually favour them because of the extra cost they pay to buy a card. Of course individualy you may win or lose heavily.

Note that even if the games are not biased Totem are still likely to benefit from them by inducing extra "purchases", either directly or as them acting as a sort of advertising, leading to us buying more credits for real money.
arise77
Joined in Mar 2008

196 post(s)
April 3, 2021
So it's actually a better average cost per card 370/32 = 11.56 credits at the moment.
Of course next play I might win 150 credits and that comes right down, but probably won't. Just a game.
Support bubble calling - see you later!
@wrightsayswow That's not so bad. My experiences last year with twenty-five and scratch card games were awful: on average I ended up paying 2 to 3 times the price (20 to 25 credits) for unwanted cards, not once I got a card chosen from my wishlist. I don't think I was particularly unlucky, because it happened several times. Anyway, I've learnt the lesson. 😉
I'm wondering, how many credits did it take to fill in the gift card bar?

@Stanton I agree buying packs is worth it if you're building a collection, it's probably the cheapest way to get to a full collection.
And for the Gambling Games, some people might forget that Gambling is Fun for the one or
the other single Individual. And iStripper is in Fact an Entertainment Platform.
So i would say live and let live.
I'm glad some people enjoy the gambling here. I was just pointing out that gambling is not a promo.

I'm still hesitating on buying some "free packs", if that makes any sense 😀I'll see if anyone else gives some info on the % of wishlisted cards.
Stanston
Joined in Aug 2018

1012 post(s)
April 3, 2021
@arise77
I'm glad some people enjoy the gambling here.
I think the people are not only enjoying the Gambling exclusively here on this Platform.
And i'm one of them by the way 😎
I was just pointing out that gambling is not a promo.
Don't get me wrong to answer a Question, providing Help or Information to someone,
there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, other Members/Moderators
are doing it the same way as well.
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/47221/2#post703346
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@arise77 Buying the March pre-order is filling the gift card bar. I saw that when I bought it, my bar was near zero before and near 90% after the pre-order.
But here is what i'm seeing from my Perspective.

Since a couple of months these Q&A Topics are getting in Fact Hijacked,
and i think i'm not the only one which is seeing this as well ... maybe.

The Reasons for this are pretty clear for me, but everyone can touch his own Nose.
And to Hijack a Topic collides in my Perception with the Netiquette and The Code of Conduct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_technology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct

But to asking myself furthermore Questions about it makes no sense for me,
i was only expressing my Opinion about what i'm seeing.

And here is what i'm seeing, if you want to point out something, you can open up
a new Topic in the proper Section on the Forum.

And leave this Topic open for people which have Questions about the current Promotion.
Otherwise it's becoming a Mess as you can see in the other Topic linked above.
I'm still hesitating on buying some "free packs", if that makes any sense 😀
I'm pretty sure that you are old enough to make your own Decisions 😜
arise77
Joined in Mar 2008

196 post(s)
April 4, 2021 (edited)
@Stanston
I think the people are not only enjoying the Gambling exclusively here on this Platform.
And i'm one of them by the way 😎
I was just pointing out that gambling is not a promo.Don't get me wrong to answer a Question, providing Help or Information to someone,
there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, other Members/Moderators
are doing it the same way as well.
You can check my different posts in this thread, I wasn't really focusing on gambling here. I said one thing about gambling not being a promo, then I just replied to a member who posted his stats by sharing my previous experience.
I'm happy for other members - like yourself - who like the games offered here. As you said, it's about fun and entertainment, and we're all old enough to decide if we want to participate or not. 😉

But here is what i'm seeing from my Perspective.

Since a couple of months these Q&A Topics are getting in Fact Hijacked,
and i think i'm not the only one which is seeing this as well ... maybe.
...
And here is what i'm seeing, if you want to point out something, you can open up
a new Topic in the proper Section on the Forum.

And leave this Topic open for people which have Questions about the current Promotion.
Otherwise it's becoming a Mess as you can see in the other Topic linked above.
Not sure if you're talking about me, you're probably using the impersonal 'you'. I've been asking mostly about the gift card bar and "free packs". The title says "free packs - Q&A", meaning here is the place to ask. You tried to answer and I thank you for that, but unless I missed it there hasn't been a clear answer.
You can also look at your own posts here and ask yourself if you're not going off-topic. And then maybe "open up a new Topic" on threads being hijacked. 😄

I'm still hesitating on buying some "free packs", if that makes any sense 😀I'm pretty sure that you are old enough to make your own Decisions 😜
I'm also patient enough to see if we can find out more about the content of "free packs", purpose of my original post. 😊
Happy Easter btw! 💖😋
Stanston
Joined in Aug 2018

1012 post(s)
April 4, 2021
Hi @arise77
I've been asking mostly about the gift card bar and "free packs".
The title says "free packs - Q&A", meaning here is the place to ask.
Yes i know and i agree with you, but these Topics are not intended to Ask about the Odds.
You tried to answer and I thank you for that, but unless I missed it there hasn't been a clear answer.
Because i have No Idea about the Odds, and i'm not interested in them.
You can also look at your own posts here and ask yourself if you're not going off-topic.
This is the problem in general to not going too much Off Topic and trying to provide
an understandable explanation.
Because we are still on a Text based Conversation, which is still unfortunate.
Happy Easter btw! 💖😋
As well to you !
Philours
Joined in Feb 2019

1647 post(s)
April 4, 2021
Salut @arise77
Je ne pense pas que vous obtiendrez de réponses claires à vos questions du moins pas de la part de l'entreprise.
Il doit s'agir d'un tirage aléatoire et donc plus vous avez de cartes dans votre wishlist plus vous avez de chance de les voir apparaître, c'est tout 😊
Pour la barre de progression je ne sais pas car je ne joue pas pour l'instant et la récompense n'est qu'une carte-cadeau donc pas de quoi s'affoler non plus 😄😄

Hi @arise77
I don't think you will get clear answers to your questions at least not from the company.
It must be a random draw and therefore the more cards you have in your wishlist the more likely you are to see them appear, that's all 😊
For the progress bar I do not know because I am not playing at the moment and the reward is only a gift card so nothing to ***** either 😄😄
wrightsayswow
Joined in Jul 2020

1158 post(s)
April 4, 2021
I'm wondering, how many credits did it take to fill in the gift card bar?
@arise77 - that's the 370 net spent so far, that's got me 2 more gift cards and roughly a third of the way to a third one.
Remember I initially forgot to add these two to my total cards gained for my avarage cost.
Remember this will no doubt vary for everyone - it's just my example. Perhaps I need a legal notice to say I am not liable if you find you had to pay lots more.

It is far too small a sample to be significant
@TheEmu - you're right of course - it was just a random example, not intended as a sample. In fact if I'd done it at 40 plays my results would have been even more in my favour. So perhaps even more misleading you could say.
Again legal notice therefore - not my fault if you have worse results.
-------
As for the free packs I've never liked those where you have no redraw element, and these don't and the starting discounts are lower, go up only 2% each go instead of I think 4% previously.

Anyway time for some pictures now - that's what I originally planned.
arise77
Joined in Mar 2008

196 post(s)
April 4, 2021
@Stanston
Yes i know and i agree with you, but these Topics are not intended to Ask about the Odds.
Because i have No Idea about the Odds, and i'm not interested in them.
I got that Totem doesn't want to publish the odds, but they've never actually answered these questions. Does that mean members shouldn't ask? Also those were about gambling odds.
Here is quite different, there are wishlisted cards included, this is something everyone can notice. What's wrong with asking how many cards are chosen in each set? Something like "may include 1 or 2 cards from your wishlist" would already be an indication.
Maybe other members are interested too.

Happy Easter btw! 💖😋As well to you !
Thanks! 😊

Merci @Philours également pour la tentative de réponse, vous avez certainement raison à propos des chances d'inclure des cartes de la wishlist. Je vais essayer d'en rajouter avant de me décider à "jouer". 😉

@wrightsayswow thanks I understood from your previous post that you were 370 credits down, there were also gains on the way, meaning it might have taken more credits to fill in the bar. Anyway, it's useful info. 👍
wrightsayswow
Joined in Jul 2020

1158 post(s)
April 4, 2021
@arise77 no problem. I see what you mean. For my I have NOT used the Free Packs promo at all so it a nice easy calculation - just the 80 plays on the 25 game times 15 credits each go which is 1200 credits. That has given mean the two and a third gift cards from the progress bar. Hope that makes sense now.
Philours
Joined in Feb 2019

1647 post(s)
April 4, 2021 (edited)
@arise77
Si vous ajouter des cartes à votre whishlist, forcément la chance d'en remporter une augmentera 😊
Vous pouvez également patienter, comme vous voulez jouer, et attendre la sortie de la prochaine SEC, si cela vous intéresse bien sûr, A vous de voir😉@arise77
If you add cards to your whishlist, the chance of winning one will necessarily increase 😊
You can also wait, as you want to play, and wait for the release of the next SEC, if that interests you of course, it's up to you😉
Bonne chance de toute façon 💰

EDIT D'apres le post de wrightsayswow, on pourrait estimer à 500 crédits la barre complétée.
TheEmu
Joined in Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
April 4, 2021 (edited)
@arise77

While anything is possible I very much doubt that the contents of your wishlist are taken into account at all and that, just as the description of the promo implies, the cards are picked entirely at random from all the cards you don't own without being biased to any subset of those cards in any way other than the stated exclusion of those released in the last 45 days.

(If I were running Totem and was feeling evil I would consider (but would not implement) making the contents of a wishlist less likely to be given as prizes than those not on the list! Putting a card on your wishlist signals that you are more likely to pay full price for it than those not on your wishlist. A seller has rather better, much less crude, ways of using a customer's wishlist than that - but I have no idea whether Totem do so or not.)
Alkasyn
Joined in Apr 2008

726 post(s)
April 5, 2021
@arise77

While anything is possible I very much doubt that the contents of your wishlist are taken into account at all and that, just as the description of the promo implies, the cards are picked entirely at random from all the cards you don't own without being biased to any subset of those cards in any way other than the stated exclusion of those released in the last 45 days.

(If I were running Totem and was feeling evil I would consider (but would not implement) making the contents of a wishlist less likely to be given as prizes than those not on the list! Putting a card on your wishlist signals that you are more likely to pay full price for it than those not on your wishlist. A seller has rather better, much less crude, ways of using a customer's wishlist than that - but I have no idea whether Totem do so or not.)

Contents of the wishlist are definitely taken into account for the Free Packs promo, it's very easy to check (remove cards from your wishlsit until you have 2 left and see if they make it into this kind of promo. Spolier: they will, if they meet the other requirements - being older than 45 days etc).

Every single instance of this promo I was offered 2 cards on my wishlist and 1 trash card - so I never took up the offer. How do I know? I have only 6 cards on my wishlist, so the odds of this being a random ocurrence every single time are unlikely.

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