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Looking for a overall opinion on something..

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jclown781
Joined in Feb 2008

111 post(s)
October 14, 2020
Hi everyone was looking for yor overall opinion on something...
A few years ago a young beauty by the name of Kristy Black came along and started a trend that I have come to love..the topless rated panty preview flash. This was awesome when I first saw it and over time occasionally would happen during the shows. Panty flashes, upskirt flashes w/o panties, panties that were so small or transparent that you could see a little kitty as they moved around..all labeled just topless. A model named ria rodrigues actually has one of the best topless clips ever turning around and twerking in underwear that just could not contain her..
Nowadays those things still happen but they're always now rated nudity and Imho I think it takes away from the teasing aspect that those same clips would have if labeled the other way.If it's nudity you know to expect nudity..if it's topless it kind of has that oops i just teased whats coming type of effect..makes running in safe mode just a little bit more special if/when you have to..I'm starting to ramble so I'll just ask do other people think that Totem editors should let just a little more slide when deciding topless to nudity ratings on these clips? I can't be the only one that likes these kind of teases am I? Or is this just a stupid fetish that I alone have and should not bother bringing up again here or when I ***** in the comments sections. Let me know what you think and everyone stay safe.
2scompanyinjax
Joined in Nov 2008

130 post(s)
October 14, 2020 (edited)
@jclown781 asked
I can't be the only one that likes these kind of teases am I? Or is this just a stupid fetish that I alone have and should not bother bringing up again here or when I ***** in the comments sections. Let me know what you think and everyone stay safe.

I remove all clips that do not show some form of nudity (topless or otherwise.) So, I think if a nipple shows, it should be rated Topless, if no nipple, it is not topless. If woman's pussy flashes, then is should be rated nudity. If you start to add nudity to shows that are labled no-nudity, I will not ever see them, and that would be a shame.
TheEmu
Joined in Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
October 14, 2020 (edited)
I agree with @2scompanyinjax (though for different reasons). The eroticism levels have relatively well defined (though sometimes surprising) meanings and to deliberately mislabel clips as @jclown781 would seem to be a very odd thing to do. If you want a pleasant surprise then don't look at the rating.
pantalone
Joined in Nov 2010

224 post(s)
October 14, 2020
do other people think that Totem editors should let just a little more slide when deciding topless to nudity ratings on these clips? I can't be the only one that likes these kind of teases am I? Or is this just a stupid fetish that I alone have and should not bother bringing up again here or when I ***** in the comments sections. Let me know what you think

You make a good point - it's a nice surprise when we get an unexpected flash, intentional or otherwise. It can't be easy rating the clips, but I think that the rules seem well settled and we all understand them. Arbitary changes would just ***** things and muddle the "Hotness level" selector (though I never use it 'cos I don't want to miss anything!).
Philours
Joined in Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
October 14, 2020
Est-ce genre de chose dont vous parlez?
Alors, oui j'aime cela, cela doit rester une surprise!
Mais comme le dit @Pantalone, ne rien changer a la dénomination de la carte. Cela reste un plus.( Un agréable plus)

Is that kind of thing you're talking about?
So, yes I like that, it must remain a surprise!
But as @Pantalone says, don't change the name of the card. This remains a plus. (A pleasant plus)
pickle1
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2019

1353 post(s)
October 14, 2020
I agree with @2scompanyinjax (though for different reasons). The eroticism levels have relatively well defined (though sometimes surprising) meanings and to deliberately mislabel clips as @jclown781 would seem to be a very odd thing to do. If you want a pleasant surprise then don't look at the rating.

I have to agree with @TheEmu on this. If you want to be surprised, don't look at the clip rating on the clip list.

The rules for defining the level of eroticism for the clips are well defined and the team and the QA team are very diligent in ensuring that they accurately reflect the content. We are not going to start deliberately mis-labelling clips as that would cause far more problems for those people who rely on the rating to decide whether a clip is appropriate for them.

And I am somebody who really loves the panty-less upskirt and the accidental nipslip - but I don't give a hoot what the clip says - when I'm watching a show for enjoyment (as opposed to QA'ing it) I have the clip list turned off.
2scompanyinjax
Joined in Nov 2008

130 post(s)
October 14, 2020
@pickle1 wrote
wrote The rules for defining the level of eroticism for the clips are well defined and the team and the QA team are very diligent in ensuring that they accurately reflect the content. We are not going to start deliberately mis-labelling clips as that would cause far more problems for those people who rely on the rating to decide whether a clip is appropriate for them.

I don't think this has always been the case and over time, the standards have changed. For example, Ava's nipples are clearly visible in Come Get Me (1197) yet those clips are labled as no-nudity. If those clips were seen playing on my work computer I would be fired.
2scompanyinjax
Joined in Nov 2008

130 post(s)
October 14, 2020
Est-ce genre de chose dont vous parlez?
Alors, oui j'aime cela, cela doit rester une surprise!
Mais comme le dit @Pantalone, ne rien changer a la dénomination de la carte. Cela reste un plus.( Un agréable plus)

Is that kind of thing you're talking about?
So, yes I like that, it must remain a surprise!
But as @Pantalone says, don't change the name of the card. This remains a plus. (A pleasant plus)

Hahaha, I love it!
pickle1
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2019

1353 post(s)
October 14, 2020
@pickle1 wrote wrote The rules for defining the level of eroticism for the clips are well defined and the team and the QA team are very diligent in ensuring that they accurately reflect the content. We are not going to start deliberately mis-labelling clips as that would cause far more problems for those people who rely on the rating to decide whether a clip is appropriate for them.I don't think this has always been the case and over time, the standards have changed. For example, Ava's nipples are clearly visible in Come Get Me (1197) yet those clips are labled as no-nudity. If those clips were seen playing on my work computer I would be fired.

I am talking about where we are NOW - the standards have been refined over time - and hence nowadays the Ava show to which you refer would have those clips classified as topless for the exact reason you quote. Sadly, we can't go back in time and re-classify all the shows.
Philours
Joined in Feb 2019

1659 post(s)
October 14, 2020
If those clips were seen playing on my work computer I would be fired.
Travailler ou s'amuser il faut choisir 😀😀😀😀
Work or have fun you have to choose 😀😀😀😀
2scompanyinjax
Joined in Nov 2008

130 post(s)
October 15, 2020
@pickle1 wrote
I am talking about where we are NOW - the standards have been refined over time - and hence nowadays the Ava show to which you refer would have those clips classified as topless for the exact reason you quote. Sadly, we can't go back in time and re-classify all the shows.

I'm not asking you to do that, but I was trying to give an example of what @jclown781 was asking for when he opened the tread. When I see nudity in non-nude clips, it is exciting, but it also does worry me. Obviously, @Philours, few people could even explain iStripper running in full G-rated mode at work. (I work from home!)
jclown781
Joined in Feb 2008

111 post(s)
October 15, 2020
Thanks @TheEmu for the good advice but I tend to trim each show down a little as I get them so I can have more shows overall on my hdd and also to avoid a little repetition as it runs throughout..I use a criteria which I won't bore you all with but one factor that I do use is if the model is still fully clothed at the beginning and end of a full nude clip I delete it. So if the flashes and peeks don't fall under the topless moniker they're deleted. Thats why I was kinda hoping more people would've enjoyed it the way I do but fair enough, I completely understand the standards set. I kind of figured that I would've been in the minority on this one but hey, why not throw it out there and see what happens..Thanks everyone for the input i'll go back to enjoying the shows and hope for the occasional editorial blooper :)
2scompanyinjax
Joined in Nov 2008

130 post(s)
October 15, 2020
I use a criteria which I won't bore you all with but one factor that I do use is if the model is still fully clothed at the beginning and end of a full nude clip I delete it. So if the flashes and peeks don't fall under the topless moniker they're deleted...Thanks everyone for the input i'll go back to enjoying the shows and hope for the occasional editorial blooper :)

This is excellent criteria @jclown781, it ***** you to look at every clip and make a decision one clip at a time. I did the math and that would take me 42.5 years, at two hours a day, to look through all 4,500 cards I have. Expecially since Totem releases 7 new cards per week. I just un-check the no-nudity clips. BTW, 8TB internal hard drives are only about $200 now :)
PrinceLunar
Joined in Jun 2018

13 post(s)
October 16, 2020
To be honest, I don't get using this app in safe/no nudity mode. This is not (in my opinion) application that you should install on your PC/laptop at work, especially when company controlls what app is being installed and what is running on your system. And also, buying 30-40 minutes of erotic show, just to watch first 5 minutes, sound weirds for me. Even the no nudity show are not something I would like to anyone to see on my desktop, either in home or in work, especially in work.
TheEmu
Joined in Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
October 16, 2020
To be honest, I don't get using this app in safe/no nudity mode. This is not (in my opinion) application that you should install on your PC/laptop at work,

In my case iStripper is installed on my own laptop - but this laptop is ften used at work (though not connected to the operational LAN but to a semi-public guest LAN) and I also use it in other public areas (at the moment I am on a train). In these situation a "safe for work" mode is very useful.
jclown781
Joined in Feb 2008

111 post(s)
October 16, 2020
@2scompanyinjax Haha touche I see the sarcasm in that one :) I know that hdd are pretty decent money now i have a couple of them and in my defense I would never suggest starting from scratch and doing what I do that's just how i've been doing it since I started using this. Although you got me thinking that if and when something crashes and my backup doesn't work I will probably never go back and do it all again.
jclown781
Joined in Feb 2008

111 post(s)
October 16, 2020
It is nice to have the option to run it at least somewhat safely sometimes. Before the covid pandemic started my place was kind of a hub for friends and family to come and hang watch sports shoot pool etc. and a couple of times I have forgotten when streaming music or running something on my pc which is connected to a 65 in tv that after a certain amount of time this app will come on in fullscreen screensaver..oops. But many of my friends loved it ..some are probably members now.. I've always had the screensaver settings to just no nudity / topless ..(you'd be surprised how many people women included have no negative reactions to suddenly seeing naked boobs) but a fully naked woman riding a couple of toys might not go over as well lol.. Then I simply ***** on progressive hotness when I want to see everything else..
2scompanyinjax
Joined in Nov 2008

130 post(s)
October 16, 2020
jclown781 wrote
Even the no nudity show are not something I would like to anyone to see on my desktop, either in home or in work, especially in work.

Everyone has a level of comfort when it comes to nudity and sexuality. I have very broad acceptance of nudity, obviously. But some would even think girls dancing fully clothed on a screen is weird or objectionable. My wife makes sure that iStripper is off when ever anyone visits our home. Trust me, I may forget, but my wife NEVER forgets to remind me to close this app 😊
aL0T
Joined in Apr 2016

283 post(s)
October 17, 2020
I totally get what you were saying. I like that kind of titilation too! However, I think @Totem knows what they're doing. They are the only one in the entire world doing this! That's pretty amazing to think about. 💚😎
Apasas
Joined in Aug 2009

1038 post(s)
October 17, 2020 (edited)
I sympathise with the OPs suggestion because Totem can be inconsistent with the ratings.

There are some non-nudity clips when you may glimpse a bare nipple or bare pussy. But I am more concerned with clothed clips.

Take one of my favoured cards: Army Fan from Andie. In this card, Andie wears a slightly transparent t-shirts through which you can make out her nipples. All clips in this card are rated topless or higher. I would much prefer that the clips in that card were rated non-nudity when Andie keeps her top on.

Compare this to another favourite card of mine: Good Catch by Jana H. In this card, Jana wears a webbed top which is much more revealing than Andie's Army Fan card. Yet, where Jana keeps her top on, it is rated as non-nudity.

Now, I am a person who likes to play non-nudity clips. It always irks me that Andie's card will not be included in the playlist, while a much more revealing g card from Jana is included.

I am not ***** of the classification of Jana's card. But I am unhappy with the classification of Andie's card. Her card is the most obvious one for me. But there are others I would change, if I had the opportunity.

My view is that we should have complete freedom in how we classify the clips in our own collection. Those who don't want to change, don't need to. Those who want to change can.

The only thing that is required would be a 'reset to default button' in case we want to return to the default setting.
orclover
Joined in Jun 2012

744 post(s)
October 17, 2020
Hi everyone was looking for yor overall opinion on something...
A few years ago a young beauty by the name of Kristy Black came along and started a trend that I have come to love..the topless rated panty preview flash. This was awesome when I first saw it and over time occasionally would happen during the shows. Panty flashes, upskirt flashes w/o panties, panties that were so small or transparent that you could see a little kitty as they moved around..all labeled just topless. A model named ria rodrigues actually has one of the best topless clips ever turning around and twerking in underwear that just could not contain her..
Nowadays those things still happen but they're always now rated nudity and Imho I think it takes away from the teasing aspect that those same clips would have if labeled the other way.If it's nudity you know to expect nudity..if it's topless it kind of has that oops i just teased whats coming type of effect..makes running in safe mode just a little bit more special if/when you have to..I'm starting to ramble so I'll just ask do other people think that Totem editors should let just a little more slide when deciding topless to nudity ratings on these clips? I can't be the only one that likes these kind of teases am I? Or is this just a stupid fetish that I alone have and should not bother bringing up again here or when I ***** in the comments sections. Let me know what you think and everyone stay safe.

I think there has to be a level of forgiveness with ratings. Either a totem employee has to watch 5-7 hours of finished content a week, intently enough to pick out nudity vs. topless, or a non-totem employee has to do the same for free. Nearly evMany cards have mistakes...I don't think it is wise to look too deeply into the tags.
jclown781
Joined in Feb 2008

111 post(s)
October 18, 2020
@2scompanyinjax That wasn't my quote that was PrinceLunar that wrote that. But to Apasas point I would love that idea but realistically there is probably no way to implement a feature like that into the program at this rate without risking corrupting collections or screwing something up..It is what it is 2scompanyinjax said it best everybody's perspective as to what should be and shouldn't be classified as nudity is different. So no matter what there's no pleasing everybody..Also true is that this really is the only program of this nature that is out there, haven't really thought of that..
jclown781
Joined in Feb 2008

111 post(s)
October 18, 2020
My only point when I started this forum was that I just felt that they have started paying too much attention to detail recently thats all..some recent shows have had just a flicker of barely there nudity or a girl just puts her hand down her pants without showing anything etc. Most recently Marica Chanelle show baby blue bare..clip 7 shows no lower body nudity whatsoever but is rated full nudity despite that fleece comfort getup that shes wearing.
pickle1
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2019

1353 post(s)
October 18, 2020
My only point when I started this forum was that I just felt that they have started paying too much attention to detail recently thats all..some recent shows have had just a flicker of barely there nudity or a girl just puts her hand down her pants without showing anything etc. Most recently Marica Chanelle show baby blue bare..clip 7 shows no lower body nudity whatsoever but is rated full nudity despite that fleece comfort getup that shes wearing.

@jclown781 - the classifications we use do not just reflect how much of the girl you can see, but they also are used to reflect what the girl is doing. So when you look at Marica in clip 7, what she is doing to herself under the fleece outfit is what moves that clip into the category that is titled "full nudity". If we tried to make the category title match exactly what it covered (or uncovered), the title would have to be longer than this post.

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TheEmu
Joined in Jul 2012

3309 post(s)
October 18, 2020 (edited)
@jclown781

My only point when I started this forum was that I just felt that they have started paying too much attention to detail recently thats all..some recent shows have had just a flicker of barely there nudity

This is not a new feature, there are cards from several years ago that have the same characteristics.

To expand on what @pickle1 said, there are, and always have been, cards in which there are clips that most people would probably describe as "fully, even heavilly, clothed with a second or so of upskirt flash showing the pussy". These clips according to Totem's definitions of the levels of eroticism are correctly classified as "nudity" or even "full nudity". The level names are not descriptions, they are just names.

This described in the following pinned post
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/39011/1?post=574198
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jclown781
Joined in Feb 2008

111 post(s)
October 19, 2020
Fair enough, thanks for the input guys appreciate the answers and the conversation..glad you were willing to hear me out..everybody be safe and enjoy!

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