Thnx, so I can turn it of now for August I guess? Afraid getting double charged.. New to this and just updated the version of Istripper.

@Plopsaland

Yes I would, to be on the safe side 😉

and you choose to do something regularly that annoys more than half of them

I don't think there is enough data to support that assumption.
In fact, Since the TGIF events continue
I believe the Data is Just the opposite

There are more member who take part in the events,
than there are members who ***** and dislike them.

if that were not the case, and the Business was loosing money over the Events
they Would Not Continue to Promote them.

Just because a few members on the forum don't approve
it does not mean that their disapproval or view is the majority.

The Team has the Data, and their decisions are based on the data they have collected.

We, the Members on the Forum, are only exposed to the few members who choose to post.
we can not extrapolate forum data to mean more than it does.

Do we have to "pre-order" before August, or can we wait till later in the month and do it retroactively?

This is a TGIF event,
So I suspect the Offer Expires Early Next Friday Morning, or for the Duration if it is Continued again.

If I remember correctly the Advent Calendars (which are similar in some respects) were also TGIF events, but you could take advantage of those offers right up to their final day. I also note that the Slot Machine (last week's TGIF) is still active. At the moment I would not be surprised either way, however for the Advent Calendars the ability to "pre-buy" after the start of the 24 days covered by the offer was mentioned in the original announcements.

Thnx, so I can turn it of now for August I guess? Afraid getting double charged.. New to this and just updated the version of Istripper.
@Plopsaland

Yes I would, to be on the safe side 😉

Thanks a lot. Great promotion for SEC by the way.

if that were not the case, and the Business was loosing money over the Events
they Would Not Continue to Promote them.

I don't deny it makes them money. I think that's exactly what it does. I think less people would buy the calendar and less people would gamble without the SECs. But it's because they want the SECs, not the gambling or the calendar. Or by the same reasoning, we'd see calendars and gambling without the SECs. That's how the profit motive works.

I don't deny it makes them money. I think that's exactly what it does.

@PascalsWager

Are you therefore proposing that Totem should deliberately decide to reduce their profits?

@PascalWager

imagine having a thriving community of people who cherish your work

OT
No reason for Imagination, those Communitys are already existing.
Like the Debian Community Team,
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Community
the Arch Linux trusted Userbase,
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trusted_Users
or the Ubuntu MOTU's
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
And they don't take Money for their Work, they are doing it for the Passion as a thriving Community 😉
OT/

I bought in specifically because this is a good promotion. I like the idea of every month or every 3 months there is something like this.

I don't deny it makes them money. I think that's exactly what it does.
@PascalsWager

Are you therefore proposing that Totem should deliberately decide to reduce their profits?

One has to be careful to assume that a business:

A. Is always right when they make a decision, most businesses of totem's size eventually fail.
B. Should prioritize short term profits over long term, which can be extremely difficult to predict

The only danger I can see with the SE/Gambling is the tendency we see in all entertainment for providers to redirect investment into "schemes" vs. providing the original service. As long as totem continues to improve the product, invest into high quality customer service, the best models available, and the best technology then the side-piece will be beneficial. If they see easy money, fall back on their current catalog and stop innovating and developing, the product will die as it loses card buyers.

We seem to keep ignoring the fact that this is a business and it is Richard Escoffier's business. He will analyse the trends and the results and will make decisions accordingly and as appropriate to his business plan. He has a company to run and a staff to pay.

Unless your name is Bezos you cannot be sure that your way is better than his - but it is his way that counts.

If you don't like the way the business is run - don't buy the product.

If you don't like the way the business is run - don't buy the product.
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This product requires up front payment. Sometimes upwards of $200+ a pop. Trust in the company is paramount to the long term viability of the product. if I am honest, the SE and gambling INITIALLY made me invest larger sums of money because I trusted they had more liquidity, and the product would still be viable in 6 months or a year. Recently though I have pulled back and not invested nearly as much, mostly because the overall talent doesn't entice me to spend as much. I have no problem with the gambling and SE at this point, but I do think the complainers have solid footing to voice their complaints.

Also, if I buy 2000 credits...those credits will last me about 14 months... can I trust that they will be investing into models and not games/UI/SE? Can I trust that they are actively searching for the best models in the world, that they are innovating the actual product. or paying for the best stage managers and show scripters, or photographers. And am I willing to invest less at a higher price when I am not confident in the future product? This is why I said short term/long term is really hard to predict.

Uploading credits is literally an investment, not buying product. If a company loses investers, they lose the company.

@theemu

Are you therefore proposing that Totem should deliberately decide to reduce their profits?

Are you advocating that profits are the only value worth pursuing?

Are you advocating that profits are the only value worth pursuing?

@PascalsWager

No, but they are the primary purpose of a business, and are an absolute necessity if that business is to continue operating. All else is secondary.

With all due respect, there seems to be a lot of whiners on this thread! If you don't like what @Totem does, make your own high quality product! However, I can tell that most of us on here get that. 😈💚✌😎

@BushViper357

No, you don't have to turn it off if you have it on, it shouldn't matter. But I probably would, just to be sure I don't get double charged.

@JayZ971

No, you don't have to turn it off if you have it on, it shouldn't matter. But I probably would, just to be sure I don't get double charged.

@EVERYONE BE SURE TO TURN AUTO-BUY OFF or you'll get double charged.

Date Action Category Amount
2020-07-27 09:50:58 Verona Sky / Playing For You from Auto-add Added to collection -11
2020-07-25 19:52:19 Booster pack "aug2020" bought Pack purchased -319

@BushViper357 No, you don't have to turn it off if you have it on, it shouldn't matter. But I probably would, just to be sure I don't get double charged.@JayZ971 No, you don't have to turn it off if you have it on, it shouldn't matter. But I probably would, just to be sure I don't get double charged.@EVERYONE BE SURE TO TURN AUTO-BUY OFF or you'll get double charged.Date Action Category Amount2020-07-27 09:50:58 Verona Sky / Playing For You from Auto-add Added to collection -112020-07-25 19:52:19 Booster pack "aug2020" bought Pack purchased -319

@elfine - I think you are causing unnecessary concern because today is July 27th so the Verona Sky card issued today IS NOT part of the August pack.

If I pre-Order "I might get double charged" if I leave Auto buy on Should not be a concern.

You can't Auto Buy a Card that you Already own.
And Auto-buy will only work if there is a server Connection.

The Only time a member Can See Cards already Owned in the store, is when the Server Connection gets Broken.

Therefore, if the server Connection is broken, AutoBuy won't function, so it Can't Purchase any Cards.

Just thought I'd toss that out there
so you don't have to worry about Auto buy making a Double Purchase.

And Auto-buy will only work if there is a server Connection.

I hope that is not the case, For me the auto-buy would be most useful if I could enable it just before a period when I knew I would not have any network available. I would do this primarily so that I would not lose the 20% premium membership discount on newly released cards, If a server connection is required then auto-buy is much less attractive to me. I had assumed that after being enabled auto-buy was a pure server side process.

i had the impression the AutoBuy only needs the server connection for the cards to show up in your collection not to actually purchase it. The blurb actually says shows will automatically be added to your collection the day they are released until you run out of credits.

I have had Autobuy turned on for some time (ever sice the first of the Betas where it was available). A few weeks ago I had an issue where I opened iStripper early in the morning (before the card for that day was released), For various reasons it was some time after midnight before I went back to iStripper and noticed that the card for that day wasn't showing up in my shows. I manually synchronised with the server and the card immediately appeared, When I looked at my account it actually said the card had been purchased some 15 hours earlier.

So I am guessing that @TheEmu"s take on this is the correct one. The cards will get added to his collection but they won't be visible until such time as he is able to synchronise with the server.

..... today is July 27th so the Verona Sky card issued today IS NOT part of the August pack.

Be aware also thet the August pre-buy is for 29 shows and therefore the 3 cards released on 31 July will also have to be paid for and are not part of the offer.

thats called business, the bottomline profits.... no profit, no business!!

Actually thats how you run a business in to the ground unless you have a product that is either a) live saving with a patent, b) extremely addictive and likely ruled illegal long term, or c) government subsidized

Sorry but the best companies typically look to balance and give lots of value for lots of profit taken. If your profit margins are too large competition will enter the space with a better value proposition to the consumer and in 2020 people are not afaird of switching brands at the drop of the hat for a better value prop.

Has that limit been hit I have zero clue but I do know just looking at profits is about the worst way to run a long term successful business. Maybe you are in your late 60's/70s though and can care less if the business goes under in 5-10 years time.

@wisc4fun
You seem to know alot about business, do you own one and if so did you start it
by A,B or C? Most successful long business are run by people in their 50's to 70's
and they didn't get their without a profit. If you don't own a business you may
want to check the age of the person you work for, if they ase in their 60's or 70's
you may want to look for a new job just in case you work for one that can care
less if the business goes under.

@wisc4fun
You seem to know alot about business, do you own one and if so did you start it
by A,B or C? Most successful long business are run by people in their 50's to 70's
and they didn't get their without a profit. If you don't own a business you may
want to check the age of the person you work for, if they ase in their 60's or 70's
you may want to look for a new job just in case you work for one that can care
less if the business goes under.

When I first started in my industry I was 1 of 60 people. When I left less than a decade later there was over 1000 in the US and 4000 globally during that time we went from millions to billions in revenue. It was built on providing a superior offering. We also were the most expensive in the space but provided value that vastly overshadowed any competitor. Average age of the company was 25 when I started and 28 when I left.

Want to know the interesting part that company existed 25 years before I got there except 15 months prior to me joining the previous owner sold off the company to a 30 year old wealthy entrepreneur who completely turned the company over from tracking profits to tracking customer success as a main metric.

People do buisness with people based on value. You can charge more and make more money if you provide value. I will point out my statement again that "the best companies typically look to balance and give lots of value for lots of profit taken."

I would not choose to work with/for a company that only cares about profit and has it as the primary decision maker on business practices because long term I know it ***** my earning potential.

I have moved in to other opportunities which again are driven by providing superior customer value and charging more because of it. I also see small businesses in my area struggling trying to chase profits instead of defining a value model that sets them apart and wonder why XYZ is doing so much better than them.

Yes profits drive the business forward but they come after the hard work and providing an exceptional customer experience/value.

Just adding I am not taking a shot at Totem because I think they do provide a great product, love the new ingenuity with the Android offering, and seem to be on top of it from customer support.

I am just responding to the concept of profit is the main thing for a business. As an example Totem investing in getting android up and running is what had me putting more money in to the platform.

EDIT: Oh and this current Pre Order promo I bought to support this type of offering where SECs are through straight purchase offerings (even if its part of buying other cards).

Where's the link to pre-order? I just got some credits and when I went ot the news page it was gone.

@CyberDragonEX13 Hello, Have you scrolled down the page ?

I'm able to click on the forum post that leads to the annoucement but when I look at the thread I'm not finding a link to bring up the offer. I cna click on the various pics fbut those only show the pictures themselves (like the TGIF picture for example.)

Where's the link to pre-order? I just got some credits and when I went ot the news page it was gone.

@CyberDragonEX13 Hello, Have you scrolled down the page ?

@Manue

@CyberDragonEX13 was looking for the banner to click on the pre-order next month. Now that it's gone, he will have to leave Auto-add on all next month to get the Nici "SEC" card.

Alrighty then. auto add it is.