Stop those event cards! It is needless to say! I don't like this policy. I want to buy cards that I like and I only want those that I like being a part in my collection!

@CwHart - why should Totem take more notice of the few members that ***** about the special offers than they do about what seems to be the larger number of customers that take them up.

I am not saying they should ya jackass I am saying that would be an incentive. They did it before and I remember a hell of a lot less ***** so IDK where you get these assumptions of few members and larger numbers.

Pre-order is an option, but only if I can chose the cards!

Wolf needs no fox :)
For those who bought this deal, pls. do us a very little favour: rate the card
you stay anonim with that, but it would be very helpful to see how many members bought this package
since everyone is just *****.
It would be very helpful to see how many members still support the exclusive cards releases, while most of the members seem to be against that.

TBH man most people who prolly just buy it more than likely arent involved much in these forum posts so the chances of them seeing this post is prolly slim. Even still we don't know how many will exactly support this one. Like I said last time they gave a nice discount to the whole package. Now it seems like there is more resistance.

@bjlover agreed with

I'd pay 200 credits to get only the event card if possible :/ but no way I'm adding cards to my collection that I dont want.

(though I can't find the original post he is agreeing with)

The normal price for a triple diamond member, such as @bjlover, is 13.5 credits per card, so the 31 cards for July would normally cost him 418.5 credits. If as the original poster said he would willingly pay 200 credits just for the Black Fox Card then, in effect, the cost for the 31 cards for the month drops to 218.5 credits - i.e. using his own estimate of the (minimal) worth of the special event card there would be an almost 50% extra discount for the month - or you could think of it as paying up full normal discounted price for 16 cards and getting the other 15 for free.

Now not everyone would agree that the black Fox card is worth 200 credits (I certainly don't) but if the original poster really would willingly pay that much for it then he should regard the offer as a bargin.

why should Totem take more notice of the few members that ***** about the special offers

Few? Seriously? When Ginebra Bellucci's exclusive card was released, as everyone can check, we got a TGIF thread of more of ten (ten!) pages almost totally consisting of angry comments about the offer. Only two weeks later another special event card, Josephine Jacksons' one (which was the last exclusive card until today) was released, and we could see lots of disappointment also, even if not as much as we saw with Ginebra's one (which was attainable only per scratch cards).

For those who bought this deal, pls. do us a very little favour: rate the card
you stay anonim with that, but it would be very helpful to see how many members bought this package
since everyone is just *****.
It would be very helpful to see how many members still support the exclusive cards releases, while most of the members seem to be against that.

I agree with that; but the problem is that also many people who ***** the exclusive cards promos, endly buy the offer anyway, because they really want that particular card and they know there will not be any other way of getting it anymore within precise and known limits of a reasonable price, but only by gambling, having potentially to waste thousand of credits in order to get it. I did like so with Josephine's card (a favorite of me) and I am not sure I eventually won't do that with Red Fox's one too... my weakness.

@HansSachs - That is still a tiny fraction of Totem's active customers. Sales figures speak much louder than a relatively small group of no matter how much they protest.

I've been away from this forum for nearly 3 months.
I've always defended Totem's actions re: promotions, special events, etc.

Still, I'm seeing the same complaints over and over and although I may not agree with some or all of those complaints, Rex, something has to change. There's too much negative going on here.

As a fairly long standing, loyal member that used to enjoy coming here to share my stuff and shoot the breeze with my buddies, it's even more tedious to read the last posts...

I personally don't really care that much if I miss a card or 2. There will always be more. Fill in the rest yourselves...

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I'm still a dude and always will be. WA knows what I mean... 😇

@TheEmu You have Totem's sales figures? No. So your one, even if reasonable - having the offer been proposed again - is, and remains, a mere speculation.

Of course I haven't seen the sales figures, but Totem have said in the past that they are measured in the tens of thousands. At best the number of people ***** in these forums is a measured in double figures, not even hundreds let alone thousands. But Totem do have the sales figures and can see what effect the special offers have on them - and I am pretty sure that they use them to guide their actions. Do you seriously think that they say "This lost us money when we tried it before, let's do it again".

Try synching with the server.

I just did and todays 3 cards are there now.

I did it many times, and can confirm that today's cards were released 4-5 hours later than usual.

Will pass.
Special event, exclusive cards, would had a significance if:
a) they were special (once a year or twice a year) and
b) if they were exclusive.

a) By releasing a special event card every two months... Totem managed to "*****" the "special" significance.
b) By offering them through gambling games (which suck by the way)... Totem managed to "*****" their exclusivity.

As it is now this "special events" seem more and more like "blackmail events" = "if you don't preorder at full price a package of cards, you will never get the card... unless you gamble in the future..."

For me the only special feature of those cards is the inability to easily identify/view them in our collections.

Do you seriously think that they say "This lost us money when we tried it before, let's do it again".

No but yes.
I mean that such offers can be very remunerative at starting, but eventually they do create more and more disaffection and bothering to the many people who are not so entuxiast or even extremely upset by the offer, but decide, for various reasons, to buy it anyway. And after more time, and more and more exclusive cards, we can not be sure of what will happen.
Not so few of this bothered people, when 4th or 5th exclusive card appeared clearly said they were going to stop buying anything from Totem.
I hope they eventually didn't, and I hope people not to go away from this program, but I also hope not to have to see 6 exclusive cards per year or so.
Personally, I am not ashamed to say I totally detest this form of "exclusive" business, and would like it to disappear as soon as possible and forever from Istripper; but everyone should admit that it has been, and is, controversial at best.

I have bought this offer to obtain the exclusive card.

However as has been mentioned previously there was no defined pathway to obtain the exclusive Ginebra Bellucci card.
I am still without that card and have not purchased a single credit since it was released but am merely running my credit balance down to Nil.
If Totem wish to keep me as a customer they need to find a sensible way for me to obtain that card as well as any future exclusive cards.

That does mean having more scratch card games where, in theory, you could spend a million credits or more, and still not obtain an exclusive card.

That does mean having more scratch card games where, in theory, you could spend a million credits or more, and still not obtain an exclusive card.

...so you want more scratch cards?

Sorry word "NOT" is missing.

I want a defined pathway to obtain every exclusive card.

@HansSachs - I admit that it has been controversial, at least among the relatively small proportion of Totem users that participate in the forum (though I don't regard it as being as controversial as you seem to think). And, as I have said several times I personally do not like the basic idea - but it seems to work for Totem and as long as they do not over do it (6 times a year would indeed be too many time in my opinion) then I see no reason why they should want to stop.

Ah Pity, I see you ended the 20% extra credits offer. If it was still on, 500 tokens would have been enough for July and the last 5 cards you just released. Now i'd need to buy TWO batches of tokens. Guess I'll just have to miss out on ANOTHER special event card. Sad.

I do totally agree with Oberamtsrat13, but know by now it's purely saliva waste giving one's point of view on the subject.

That does mean having more scratch card games where, in theory, you could spend a million credits or more, and still not obtain an exclusive card.

Yes in theory but not likely. Again the logic and hence the probability is unknown but the results are obvious; if you play the games long enough you will eventually win the card. In your case there is very little else left to sell you so I would expect you would win it fairly quickly and probably cost you less than the calendar you just bought.

And while I doubt Totem is paying much attention to any specific case, I bet they are confident those willing to buy the calendar and cards at any cost will continue buying credits no matter what they might be saying out loud. I thought I was getting out and I haven't bought credits in 2019 but unless my experience degrades I'm sure I'll buy credits again; I just spend less of them now .

From what I can tell the majority of members are against exclusive cards and games but until today they did seem more tolerant of the calendar. I'm pretty confident the majority buying the calendar did so begrudgingly but they are still buying it. Totem is going to keep doing these things until enough members choose not to continue supporting them and I'm starting to doubt that will ever be the case. sadly, it is what it is.

To all the people saying you need a million credits to get the all the "special event" cards here is my tally.

I started with the Olivia Sin - New Years Eve card as my first special event card back on December 24, 2018.

In the past 6 months I have done the following and acquired all 5 previous cards.

• 500 Credit Reloads x 5(included some with bonus credits)
• 1000 Credit Reloads x 1(included bonus credits)

I don't really care for Ginebra but I got her and the rest through playing the games. Your going to have to spend some money and get cards your probably don't like but previously unavailable cards that some of us members didn't even know existed can now be acquired and deserved to have hoops jumped through if you want them.

Have a great weekend.😎

My collection consists of over 2000 shows that I specifically wanted to purchase, but it also includes over 200 shows that I watched once, if at all, before deleting. I'm always excited to add to the 2000+ collection, but I swear I'll never purposefully purchase another pack of cards if there's a chance to get another card I just - don't - want.

It's not about discounts for me. It's not about special cards. It's about me not wanting to feel like I'm wasting my money. And that's what I'd be doing if I paid for this preorder.

And listen, the reality is that I don't need iStripper. I like it. I want to see beautiful women performing erotically on my desktop. But I don't need it, and it follows that I don't need Michelle's newest card either. So I'm not going to blow credits on around ten cards I don't want just to get between one and twenty cards that I do want.

There's my contribution to the discussion. If you want me to buy Black Fox, offer it to me on it's own. If you don't want me and others in my position to buy it, then keep doing what you're doing.

It's a great pity that according to the showroom there are only few buyable cards in the future. One of them would have been the 'Black Fox'. It's even more disappointing that it's unbuyable.

Thank you for nothing.

If you can't stand seeing a deleted card in your inventory, I believe they can remove it from your account if you ask lol. I do say it's nice to see Michelle a few years matured 😍

As it is now this "special events" seem more and more like "blackmail events" = "if you don't preorder at full price a package of cards, you will never get the card... unless you gamble in the future...".

The exclusive card is really the only incentive to pre-purchase. But what makes this card exclusive? There doesn't appear to be a specific event tied to it.

When you compare it to similar "sales", the advent calendars had a Christmas card & you could wait for all cards to be revealed before purchasing. Others had a 20% discount slapped onto them.
As this one does not have these added values, it feels like totem are dangling a very tempting card in a desperate attempt to make us buy 31 cards in 1 go, as if unsure they would be bought when sold individually.

On that note, I will kiss the Black Fox farewell & wait for an event with an actual discount when I shall purchase cards I know I want.

Sales figures speak much louder than a relatively small group of no matter how much they protest.

Totem is going to keep doing these things until enough members choose not to continue supporting them and I'm starting to doubt that will ever be the case. sadly, it is what it is.

This is happening because there is no alternative to iStripper. Totem has zero competition. I'm sure, if there was another company offering girls dancing on your desktop, Totem would be taking into account those complaints and turn into a more appealing promotions to those protesters, or maybe lowering credits cost to attract more customer vs competition, find effective ways to keep up with sales figures...etc

I remember some years ago a porn website would easily cost $40+/month, nowadays competition is so strong that some sites offer access with little as $5/month

But since there iStripper has no competition, unfortunately, it is what it is...

So... this now equals a whopping total of 5 special event cards that I don't have. I've missed out on the last 5 in a row.

I'm a collector & am very disappointed with all of the red tape & ***** credits that are associated with obtaining these cards. Many people have been lucky with the games of chance that have been offered. I'm not one of those.

Totem, please consider providing a method for longtime loyal customers that have reached a certain status of card ownership to just straight across purchase these cards.

These are big files, requiring not just a few KB's, but over 100 MB's with the newer ones being over 1 GB. Even an extra cost would be better than gaining a lot of cards that I have no interest in clogging up precious hard drive space with.

@pantylicious, you dont have to download the cards that you own though. I have quite a few (lot) now that I have acquired that are in my collection but not downloaded (i've not checked, but I assume this takes up zero or next to zero HDD space). Best wishes