***Sexual Erotism***
Sexual Erotism, in other most famous word: Porn. I understand watching womans enjoying themselves is disrespectful to Woman? the forums is filled all over with comments like:

• "Against Porn!!, Bah! not for me"
• "If you respect Girls! you dont watch porn!!"
• "Pfff, iStripper is not the right place for porn, Sexual Erotic content"
• "Peeple that watch porn, are kind of twisted macho's"

So, basicly all saying: I dont respect woman because I watched and enjoyed Sexual Explicit content here. The main reason I watch sexual explicit content of girls is because I like to watch at woman masturbate and enjoy 'themselves' on my screen, no any disrespectful meenings here. Disrespectful for me towards womans, is for example:

> Womans dont have rights
> Womans may not vote
> Womans is only made for 'listening"
> Womans, yeh good for one-time-use.
> Womans are only good to me, if they obey.

Those are REAL examples for disrespectful behaviors towards womans. For me like to watch porn, i'm just very attracted to womans, the woman body.. how is this disrespectfull? For me the human body as speak for Male AND Females, is normal.. we are part of nature 😶.. how can sex be disrespectfull to man and woman while it is part of nature.

Sex is not bad thing, it is not a Crime. I would never confront just someone in public with my naked body because that person doesn't want to be confronted, besides it is a crime here in the netherlands but of course disrespectful aswell.

If someone can explain me what exactly is disrespectful about sex / porn related to Womans? in my point of vision, these models have alot of fun making these Sexual Content. If there is something disrespectful about porn and the reason is the Man (the macho), that Man in person is disrespectful, not the Porn Content 😊😊😊

I made this Topic because I was really curious why so many comments shows up with dislikes towards porn but aswell because these comments contains a slight kind of message to peeple enjoy watching porn. Came over as kind of ***** towards peeple watches porn, because.. we perverts, dont respect woman.. wich is totally not the case (in my situation), being disrespectfull is completly personal. And believe, me porn always works another way around, a woman that visit porn website are not going to these kind of sites for products like deodarants or make-up. they come for sexual explicit content, so called: Porn. Man and Woman are equal, we are on the same train.

Thanks for reading, Terbone


~~ It Is Like The Term Sex Fades More and More Away from the World ~~

>>This topic is not inrelevant, this topic goes indirectly about iStripper XXX - Deskbabes. I would like to ask Totem Entertainment kindly not to remove this Topic, I will promise to stay polite to other customers.<<

Neither we, the mods, nor Totem Team members are in the habit of removing topics. Threads get 'closed' sometimes. Usually because there's nothing further to be said or there was some confrontation between members. As long as it stays civil, it stays open.


Where are you getting all this ?

Who do you believe is telling you that you're being disrespectful ?

Who do you think is saying sexual eroticism is somehow disrespectful toward women ?

Opinions are just that my friend. Anything you enjoy is YOUR personal business. Nowadays, everyone feels they are entitled to comment on issues that have nothing to do with them. If you're not harming anyone physically, emotionally, etc. you're fine! Eat, drink, watch porn, be merry 😊

Oh no...not another one of these threads lol

Hi, I will try to explain this as precise I can.

After all information and comments gathered together after 3 á 4 days talking about the "Old" and "New" XXX rated format. so many peeple are against 'porn' clips in overall no matter wich type card is chosen at the end, the XXX type of Card that suppose to contain "More Explicit" isn't really popular. And as I said before: the poll is very hard confronting me, how many peeple doesn't want XXX Explicit content at all.

Where are you getting all this ?
Where do I get all this comments, from Topics that contains comments about XXX Content. Customers says after all these years, Totem Entertainment is not a place for porn (Go away, peeple! go to the web if you want porn!).. I catch ***** towards 'Porn' and XXX Explicit Content with comments like these.

Who do you believe is telling you that you're being disrespectful?
KingUbu, combined what is happening with "Deskbabes" concept triggered me to create this Topic

Who do you think is saying sexual eroticism is somehow disrespectful toward women?
KingUbu, Sexual Eroticsim (Porn)

This whole Topic made triggered me aswell.

http://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/35810/1?post=527190

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Really hard to say the difference between Eroticism and Porn but I have respect for woman, no matter what.

I must correct myself towards, KingUbu. It turns out I didn't really understand his comment in the first place. but after some good concentration and my lack of english (im from the netherlands) I can see what he actualy meens, altough i dont really share his opinion. but a opinion is a opinion.

Eroticism: is more beauty, masturbation soft-explicit sex

Porn: *****, SM, Golden Shower, Group Sex etc

But still I have alot of concerns about what happens after the 'Poll' 😳

I agree that the difference between porn and eroticism is a very fine line and I don't know exactly where to draw that line.

I disagree with the definition of Porn being *****, S+M, Golden Shower, etc.

To me, PORN means recording visually and/or writing about, then publishing sexual acts of any kind.

There's another part to the full word... 'graphic.' Graphic means a lot of things but in this context, 'Pornographic,' to me, means, something like, in your face, blatantly obvious sex. Doesn't have to be fetishist or nasty or weird.

Eroticism, to me means the appreciation of the physical form. I'm not gay but for others this would probably include the male form too. For me, seeing nicely done photography, videography or hand-made visual artwork can be a turn-on (erotic). Doesn't always need to be an obvious sexual act.

I might have the wrong impression but..........

I think you might be over reacting to simple differences in opinions between members, different likes and dislikes and taking it personally Terbone

Chill

Any of it is meant to incite lustful, erotic, sexual feelings, from the artistic to the most obscene. I do think there is porn that degrades and promotes women as objects, or they might just have an insatiable sexual appetite but at some point are things just going too far? That's pretty much defined by your own moral compass because you can find anything out there these days.

Here I find it a nice balance focused celebrating the sexual spirit of gorgeous women. Yeah I'll go with that :P

Yes, that is true '91hebasu' and for that I would like to apologize for mine behavior. right now, I cannot find any kind of 'rest' in myself because this XXX Rated format issue makes me nervous. but I will leave the forums be for the moment I need to clam down. My apologize goes to everyone for my bad behavior, didn't meen to ***** anyone.


(I dont really need this Topic anymore, so It can be deleted)

I won't delete the thread

However, take a break from this for a couple days. If you still feel that you have no further use for it after that, you can send me a PM to request that it be closed.

Chill

This (What @91hebasu said)

@Terbone...

Seriously just take one...like...right now! (you'll feel better trust me 😉)

"pornography; ...designed to be sexually arousing." (Chambers English dictionary)

"eroticism: ...interest in, or pursuit of, sexual sensations." (Chambers English dictionary)

English is my first language and I can't really tell the difference. I suppose that pornography is an erotic product. You can have erotic art, which is intended by the artist to invoke an emotion beyond pure lust, Dance can include eroticism, while being artistic. What the product consists of (*****, S&M, etc.) is irrelevant.

But iS isn't art, although elements of the dance may be artistic. It is pornographic or, if you prefer, erotic. The xxx discussion relates to degree of explicitness and format. Contributors (not me, because I'm not really a fan of the xxx cards) are getting into knots trying to differentiate the words and attributing meanings to them that don't exist.

As for exploitation, are we being exploited by women who take our money, exploiting our weakness for seeing them with no pants on? Of course we are. As we were by Titian when he painted Venus and sold it, on when we pay to listen to a couple of girls singing the Flower Duet. There's no disrespect associated with exploiting somebody's desires for financial gain, so long as it is a fair trade between adults with nobody being conned or bullied into the transaction. Totem doesn't con or bully the models, so any disrespect is purely in our imagination.

So, @Terbone, I suggest you can ignore the semantic hair-splitting. Tell them to write it in Dutch!