Having newly arrived at the Wiggle 'n' Goosh Wonderland that is DESKBABES I want to share some of my thoughts, feelings, & suggestions here.
Thanks Totem for finally approaching the Erotic Evolution that I had thought you capable of AND WANTED YOU TO DO from my first days of membership!I had envisioned an "Late Nite Strip Club" vibe separate section of VGHD (password accessed for those who want it)for cards like these on DB's. (hey..it's evolution ...it takes time...& space)
I finally got here due to starryk telling me that I was cleared to go to DB's by being a VG member! I had last heard that we had to install it over VG,there were glitches, etc. and was waiting for the glitches on VG to calm down before I had to do all that techy rigamarole!(I thought)
Two days,70 cards, and $150.00 later(!!) I'm pretty happy with the whole deal! It's so good seeing some of our FaveBabes from VG being ..er.."COMPLETELY " erotically explicit like I knew they wanted to be on VG!
It's mostly great to actually hear the babes while in action!From the incredible Jana Cova "Talk you off" card to all the various moaners & OrgasmoWailers DB's is a sonic delight. The babes generally all fall into the "OMG this beautiful woman is fucking for me!" zone no matter how proficient they are at creating a great erotic expression.There is enough variety to keep me goin' until I need a Viagra Prescription! lol I like that Totem allows long clips when the action of fucking gets hot/climactic.
I like it alot. There are some areas I'd like to see improved as we go along into the future.So rather than go on & on with my prose...I'll just list them here:(while Cynthia Vellons fingers her pucker over there>>>>>)
..to be continued

Well... the rest of the text did not go thru...do we really get 5000 characters to use??
I'll be brief...
SUGGESTIONS:
PLEASE:
1. Less dildos MORE fingers, tongues, kissing, pussy/ass licking.
I want to see way more PASSIONATE kissing,pussy licking, fingering than extraneous dildo use like rubbing over clothes, etc. Keep dildos for climactic penetration and let LOTS of juicy kissing,pussy/anal licking & fingering be used in place if them. Like real lovers do!!!
Keep it ORGANIC!
2.Put some sound proofing/cushioning under a carpet on floor to lessen "clomping" shoe noise.
3.Totem, I am yer elder so listen to me! (smile)
PLEASE STOP fading out just as the explicit action gets going in a clip and creating too many very short erotically explicit clips! This creates flow problems while ...er...actively watching the babes AND creates a huge frustration element in us that doesn't need to be!
Let the babes go on for at least a couple of minutes once the start getin' into it. You can do the short clips with the "lightly sexy" shots.
I will say that you do a good job letting the climactic orgasm clips flow long time and I really thank you for that!!
4.Have babes invite us in to the action more.Looking at us, asking"C'on wanna put yer face right here?" Here baby...put your fingers in her" etc.Ala,Sarah,Daria Glover,Jana (WOW),Cynthia Vellons,etc. Even have non English speakers do this in their own language.
I'd love to hear Hot Czech sex talk!!!
It's like listening to World Music...I don't need to know the words, I just need to feel the feeling & ride the groove!!
Sexy talk is universal!
5. I know that Totem is trying to differentiate between VG & DB by having the dancing be on VG. but please have a bit more dancing/tease in DB cards too!Love seeing the babes seduced by each others dancing. Maybe have a pumping in her face seduction be part of card's action!
6.For heaven's sake Totem, put a continuous ad in VG for Deskbabes, a "sticky too, letting members know that they are already part of Deskbabes and just have to go & sign in.I think you are not getting many potential customers because there is no direct reference & contact info!( I was one until I found out it was easy. I THEN SPENT $150.00 AND came back to VG and bought 6 cards for 2 tix from being inspired by DB content ---Ashly Bulgari)
Don't lose the newbies (and mis-informed oldbies like me) due to them being uninformed!They need to know that this content is HERE and all they have to do is sign in!!! They can't be expected to read the forum--it has to be an ONGOING AD always right on the "page"!
Keep VG babes erotically explicit and the dancing there will take care of drawing people in to the site..( I like the new erotic aesthetic..)
7. Just watched the Kitty Jane/Jolie duo...YES YES YES!!!PLEASE ADD MORE STRAP ON DILDO ACTION!! If you're using dildos let there be strap ons...(Wow their card is hot!!!)Yes ask girls if they'll do strap on and let them if they will!!!

****Totem...work on a way to have the program suck me into the screen so that I can erotically inter act with the babes. (I know this can be done...I've seen it in the movies so of course it's real!..(lol)

OK,I've got some serious w....watching ..(you thought I was going to say WANKING didn't you...naughty minded you..)to do .
Thanks again for all then pleasure & fun!
...love the site...Am re-working my budget to enjoy it more...
Bye fer now....
EDIT: I transferred these two older posts to this thread for better access, organization, and continued posting. For some reason the original thread did not list the title in the title box.

Well a week into the DB mission and I've bought 'em all!
Winter's comin' on and I'm layin' in Wankernation supplies, I guess.
I'm mostly lovin' the babes and their shows...although some are more accomplished & successful at portraying PASSIONATE GirlFuck encounters than others.(Monika,Silvie,Jana,Vellons,Eufrat,too many to list)
Monika's "girl on a CuntHunt" vibe plus her gorgeous "Godzilla" eyes makes me quiver within every time!

The following suggestions are based on my "erotic taste":
I really like it when the girls do licking & deep, slow to fast, finger insertions into each other with seemingly real, or at least well acted orgasms!
My faves are the babes whose sex moans go right along with the action, rising and falling with the movement and not those who stay one level throughout the card.
Dildos that are sucked only like Lolly's ARE NOT SEXY to me!
Girls sucking dildos like they are cocks (Vellons-Solo,Jana C.-solo) ARE WAY SEXY!!
Girls rubbing dildos over clothes, randomly over bodies=NOT SEXY.
Majority of cards sex action should be PASSIONATE kissing, licking, fingering, with dildo fucking used as a climax effect.
I'D LIKE TO SEE GIRLS SEDUCING EACH OTHER MORE! One girl dancing TO the other...tempting!
Girls do good "to us" visual takes...but PLEASE can we have girls who speak good English do "invites" to us...Look to us while fingering the babe...saying with sly sexiness,"Come here...you want some? Put your face right here...Yes baby,lick it deep!" I'd even like it if they spoke in their native tongue as long as they did good acting, deep erotic seduction!Please Totem, drop the lame "I want to show you mu sexy body" greeting.Vary it with simple "Come play with me/us" "Let's go & *****" "I want to suck you" (Ahh the dependable Cynthia Vellons!)Variety and sexy seduction, with a touch of classy sleaze. please!
It bothers me to not see this vocalizing happening...it would enhance the experience so much. Totem's director should set the direction in this way
I'd love to see more light ***** ala that Lola & Latittia card...spanking & a bit of "do her" ***** would be nice as long as it's done with Passion & class.
Totem I find it sooo surprising that you guys, so concerned with tasteful aspects of sex, classy aspects of erotica, would let the clumping of shoes go on after hearing it in the first sound card! Can you lay some flat carpet with a bit of rubber cushion underneath to lessen this definately non erotic sound.
I still have to watch most of my cards fully...but I love the kissing, licking , fingering and yes let's have some tasteful, loving, passionate, anal kissing & licking TOO. Kitty's strap-on PLAY was sooo appreciated !!
So members, sound off here .Your likes, dislikes?
Let Totem know, for a better show!!
I scanned the members of DB some and was delighted to read some women's responses.I'd love to see more of you writing here.
DeskBabes is such a fine COMPLETION to VG, an evolution if you choose....still has bugs to work out but Oooo baby...I don't want to go much of anywhere else pornwise.(that's good business)

lol i think youve covered most things plas, you on a mission lol i can see Rex
right now booking next years summer holiday :)
One thing i would like to see is when the team find two girls who really like
getting it on with each other and are very popular that they bring both girls
back for a super sexy encore or the start of a series of shows :)

Yeah..I'd also like repeat performances by super sexy explicit babes.
For instance, Silvie Deluxe is fast becoming my "queen of DB"
She's sooo SlimSexy in bad' and has a great sexual intensity when she's on the CunnyHunt with babes.
She has the, oh so desired, ability to "Do" babes and "Make love" to them at the same time! Evident in the way she "takes charge' and even manipulates her "bitches" in some clips.(WOW! I just saw her wonderful "strap-on" clip with Rachel Evans!!! You go girl! GOOD WORK TOTEM FOR LEAVING IT IN! MORE!!!) She surely is hot with Monika & Totem has thankfully released that wonderful duo in "Pocket Queens" on VG too!
They both also have a nice sense of the intense,deep erotic and waste little time with silly moves.Something other girls can learn & the director's can emphasize more for every babe/card!!! I love how Silvie isn't afraid to do a little ass & tit smackin' of her babes...yeah...more o' that too Totem!! Classy, sexy,intense,careing, extreme...Mmmmmm...oui!
Mission?....Yeah I like DB's alot...and want to see it evolve into a really good, classy, sexy, deep erotic, site that gives what it promises...Silvie,Monika, Jana, Vellons,( to name a few) all "get it" and put it out...very successfully and COMPLETELY!
I love it when they do!!!!

So, seeing as you have all teh shows, can you please share which one of them have strap on action in them ?

Yeah...Silvie Deluxe & Rachel Evans is the other strap on one...
I think Kitty & Christina are the best one 'cause they go at it so strongly & explicitly...
(Love Kitty suckin' the dildo as a "cock")...

Follow the kink...
If you're into a little ass smackin' with a leather strap..Kristy Lust gives Monika some nice, sexy bend over smacks in their duo!
Good sex & nice orgasm in it too!
Laetitia gets a bit lovey roughy with Lola in their duo too...Mmmmmm....

Have you ever had this happen with DeskBabes?
I decided to download a card.
Got a phone call...
Came back to computer... checking e mail(no girls were playing)
Suddenly...Outa nowhere Laetitia comes on (as card finishes downloading), Loudly Yodeling her CumSong over my VolumeMaxed speakers!
(I had had a "senior moment" and had forgotten I was downloading a card!)
Just about flew outa my chair and spontaneously did one of those "only happens in old Abbot & Costello & 3 Stooges comedy movies sounds".... "Nyaaannnngggaaaaa....!"
I swear, if I had a life insurance policy, I'd be checkin' to see if I was covered for
"Death by Mis-Laetitia SurpriseSonics!" (smile)

I am trying to find out about the playlists or music for the models. What type of music works best, i.e. the models and the music is in sync? Is techno better or rock or hip hop....I would like your suggestions.

TK

Having bought a few cards, I now have a few comments, especially relating to the duos. But some relate to both.

The first comment I would say, is the actual action itself is good and just at the right level, at least for me.

As a general point and purely from a personal point a view, I would like to see more clothes that look like they would be worn in real life.

For me at least this increases the erotic entertainment. That is why I like cards like that by Walleria and Tee, because they are wearing dresses that could be worn in real life.

SOLOS
Initially I was attracted to Deskbabes for the duos. In principle, the solos are quite good and I enjoy them better than I thought, especially with the sound.

The only thing I would like to see more is perhaps the odd skirt. All girls seems to start off in their underwear. It would be nice to see that a girl lift or hitch up her skirt and rub herself. Of course it doesn't have to be in all scenes.

This is probably the only area where the duos have an advantage on the solos. As this happens in some duo cards.

DUOS
I have a couple of issues on duos, so I make a separate post.

Looking at the camera
The thing that annoys me the most, is that the girls look at the camera when they are interacting with each other. In my view, when the girls are seeing to each other, the should concentrate on each other and ignore the camera. Otherwise, it reminds you too much that it is just a show.

However, when the girls are not interacting with each other, such as when they are sitting side by side and fingering themsleves, looking at the camera is OK.

This is one area where technique differs fundamentally between duos and solos in my view. While I would actually want to see a solo look at the camera a lot and thus interact directly with the viewe, I would prefer the duos to NOT look at the camera and concentrate on each other.

However, undoubtedly there are some that disagree with me. Perhaps I will do a pole.

Positioning
I often find positioning in duos a bit frustrating. Too often the girls are facing each other a right-angles to the camera. This means that the viewer gets a view of the girls from the side, meaning that we are missing most of the action.

I would prefer if the girls interacted with each other a slight angle with the giver to front so we get a good view of per ass (or pussy depending on how she is sitting) and the taker to the back so we get a good view of her pussy, tits, etc and and get a good view of the action.

I really do think the girls should get more guidance on positioning, because it could really improve the shows.

I agree with the point about clothes - while VG has a good mix, tho lately its been getting bland with all the lingerie and bikinis, DB is mostly just naked or ridiculous outfits. Part of the fun for me is when a girl strips her clothes off.

Also, plasonic, have any of the newer cards have strap-on scenes? I got Christina and Kitty and it was ok.

Lots of good suggestions here. Let me strongly second this comment from Plasonic:

PLEASE STOP fading out just as the explicit action gets going in a clip and creating too many very short erotically explicit clips!

If you want to sell more cards, Please more longer explicit clips. And as for me, less dildos and more "organic" (nicely put, Plasonic) fingers, lips, etc.

And...FULL nudity! It's a shame I have to keep asking for this!

Colette and Zafira have a 32-minute show. Four users (Users! Heh, heh! Customers?) rate the card 10/10, but Totem gives the card a score of 9.59. How do Totem arrive at their score for the card, when the average is 10.00?

Plasonic, 35-days ago, wants to see "tasteful... anal kissing and licking". Surely, this is a contradiction in terms? Probably not something you could say in polite society! I'm indifferent to it, if slightly against. Plasonic, you really should be working for Totem. What you write is entertaining, primal, and thoughtful.

A few personal comments in response:-
1. I don't like the ***** boots with thick soles and very high heels. They aren't sexy. I do like BARE FEET.
2. I like medium to slow movements in the shows. High tempo, particularly without music, rarely works.
3. I greatly prefer sound, but it has to be natural and used sensibly. Over-acting is just annoying.
4. Dildo sucking does nothing for me.
5. Fake orgasms are just silly and can undermine the show. Like many other modeliser voyeurs of VGHD and DeskBabes, I want to see the women honestly enjoying themselves while entertaining.
6. I prefer shows to be longer than 40-minutes.
7. I like the women to acknowledge "me" now-and-then during their show. Jana Cova's super hot solo took this too far.
8. Many of the shows are very similar... a mix of wiggling, writhing, and clit rubbing. Perhaps more new elements/themes could be made to work, not that there haven't already been some (e.g. Lola and Laetitia). Perhaps gymnastics or yoga or spanking or...
9. Finally, Melisa's appeal on VGHD is partly due to her athleticism and mobility. Many of the other girls should learn from this.

@MoodyCat - I'm sure Totem gives their rating based on everyone that contributes, not only the ones that leave comments that you can see. Being that not everyone that votes leaves comments, unless you've checked every Deskbabe members profile, you don't know how many people voted, or what number they gave the card.

Thanks Flopshot. Enjoy a great portrait photograph from DeviantArt. Flopshot?

In my opinion the Db shows are in general are very good, but I've some remarks:

1., Outfits
Too many lingerie clips - please few variety in this regard.
Would be very good if the cips are story - For example:
lady boss and her secretary; teacher and student; doctor and patient, etc.
2., Clips
I would like longer [more 40 minutes] and slower rhytm shows.
I would like more interactions each other girls in the duos.
I would like more variety.
(For example:
Fewer dildoplay - specialy if they are clothed;
More strap-om;
More 69 pose;
New toys in explicit clips - geisha balls; cucmber; ice cream; fruits, etc.)
In the duos no more oneself fingering and more fingering each other.
More barefoot girls and please no use platform shoes - this shoes are not sexy amd in these going are very hard
Finally I would like seeing in DB - solo or duo: Viki, Natali Blond, Sharka Blue, Eve Angel, Sophie Moone, Peaches, Jennifer Max, Vicky S., Satin Bloom, Sandra H., Jana H., Dana V. and Bijou.

szalka,
I too prayed for Sandra H to appear on DB,but it seems she has retired, due to having a baby.I often dreamed of watching a duet with Sandra H and Ariel Piperfawn(I cannot decide which of these gorgeous girls is my favorite)I certainly agree with your pick of Sharka Blue coz the show she put on for VG was worthy of being included in DB,so I would love to see what she would do with the restrictions off.I bet it would just about melt the camera..(So Hot)

Again in DUOS

Too much plastic (dildos) if it were gay male show LMAO sorry just way too much, think what the show with two males would sell if you used just flashligh (toys) no or little skin contact.

Not enough kissing, oral sex, and finger mutual masterbation.

I cannot express enough how SEXY (to me) it is to see the girls rubbing their pussies together!! Please...more!! :)

So far, I've only found one duo that does this :(

I actually quite like the scenes where they use a dildo on their pussies. But I agree that the dildo sucking is not erotic at all, at least from my point of view. Unless of course they suck it AFTER putting it in their pussy.

I have just started my collection and am thrilled by the way the girls play and expose their bare pussies. The sexiness in how they finger themselves and how they use their dildos.

Like the duos when they really interact with each other and mean it. More scenes with them kissing and touching each other.

Please make sure that this is kept as erotic pleasure and not pornographic. In my view there are certain people wanting these beautiful girls to become like objects of their own fantasies.

It's nice to see so many posts & opinions here. That 's the reason I started this thread when I got to DB's, to allow us to express critique & celebration of DB's cards & support what it is we like about them & suggest improvements.
Now we have Totem's mention that they will be doing longer clips (5-12 min.)
Going for more "continuous" action.
Doing away with fades at erotic action points. (due to allowing longer cuts.)
Let's hope they also take action on other suggestions we've mentioned:

1. More finger/kissing/ licking,everywhere, less dildos (other than penetration & strap on)!
2. Longer shows/cards. More explicit action but also more seduction.
3. More varietal costuming, more erotic stripping out of clothes.
4. Better "sex acting", more realistic sex sounds, more help toward this from the director.
5. End of the "clomping shoe sounds"! Less shoes.
6. More Bare feet.
7. Return of many VG FaveBabes to do DB's shows (solo and/or duo).
8.Better, more direct, angles for watching, more 'direct' exposure, less side views.
9. Sex talk to us, inviting us, including us, again, "good sex acting".
10. More themed cards, real life action. Cop/crimuinal,Doctor/patient, etc.
11. I'd like a little tease dance moves(1 clip) in the solos with fingering as they move!

After 'using" DB's now for 2 months I find that the editing as if they were VG dance clips & could be watched casually to be VERY bothersome when watching while actively..er...doing!(which is a more realistic aspect of a site like this!) Throws my rhythm off completely & makes for a less inviting erotic experience.
Hopefully the new editing of longer, explicit, clips will enhance the active experience by deeper immersion into the explicit erotic interaction! (How dya like that for tasteful! lol)
Jana Cova's solo is perfect and should be used as a training video!
Recently a Blue Angel solo card came out. She does wonderful, confident, erotic sex talk & action-YET THE CARD WAS LESS THAN 30 MINUTES IN LENGTH & she apparently, wasn't directed to go further in this oral erotic exploration either!
I find this kind of missed opportunity by the Team AMAZING for it's blown possibility aspects!
Women who can do erotic "talk-you-off"-with sexy-action-too videos should be nurtured and developed fully! Let them speak in their own language if no good English!

But there are girls who can do this well & are more than willing to "get it on" if given the chance!(I'm thinking Monika in her VG cards...Whoooo the girl was givin' WAY MORE GOODIES than ended up in the card!)
Please guys, (would love to see some females response here too!) keep up the critiques, celebrations, & suggestions,& hopes & dreams of Wank'n'Think Nation!!!

We should pass the hat and see if we can get Jana Cova to come out of retirement & do a few more cards (and a "Babe Training Vid" fotrm the TEAM to use)!!
(kidding ...or...)

Will there ever be some kind of special? I would atleast like to see the one card special that last for 100 or so sales and switched to another card. That was pretty cool to me and could generate more of an interest here. I can't pay the 2 or 3 dollars unless I start seeing girls that are absolutely what I want... which I see pretty seldom on the DB side and less and less on the VG side as well.

I am again more with Plasonic in this.

@coldinjected this has to be costing Totem for the content. I would rather pay more for More varietal costuming, longer, explicit, clips and less dildos. I can afford 4 dollars for cards that are worth it more than I can afford 2-3 on ones I have to delete (or did not want to watch).

Bring back the lotion bottle the oils, etc. (loss the over-use of dildos) *smile*

(then looked at my 2 credits left to spend, and bought 50 more to show my support for Totem and the ideas)

Well Duaane, It's either change the product or the pice. Nrither have changed since the start but I assume soon one of us will be happier. I am assuming the product doesn't change so I am waiting for sales until a girl hits me again.

I agree with or at least don't disagree with most pf @Plasonic's comments.

But I don't agree with the more bare feet request. I actually prefer to see the girls feet covered by either boots, high-heeled shoes or stockings.

I in fact enjoy the sound of high heeled shoes as the girls walk on stage. For me these is an erotic sound. Although clearly that will not be the case for every one.

It just goes to show that there is no right answer here.

I haven't been buying too many Deskbabes cards , just 8 since it started . The main reason why is the cost 2-3 credits per card; hoping to see specials like in VGHD sometime in the future .
Additionally , I object to the pictures of some of the girls on the cards . Let's face it there are a small minority of girls that just aren't that attractive...maybe it's just me . Some of the poses on the cards look deliberately antagonistic with rather harsh facial expressions . This sends a message of "hands off" to me . And that means "NO SALE" from me your customer.
Please take more care in choosing the pictures that you use to promote your products . I think it may make a difference in how your product is perceived .

Thank You

Who is responsible for this photo if in fact it is a photo. This is not the Ashley Bulgari I'm familiar with . I will not waste a nickel on this card!!