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SEC cards, NFT cards... and now EX (exclusive) cards... I really don't like it

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fallen0ne
Mitglied seit in Sep 2007

163 Beiträge
17. November 2023
I have to start of by saying that this post is not an attack.
I absolutely love Team Totem. I love the software. I love all the models that we have had featured in all versions of VirtuaGirl, StripSaver, Deskbabes & iStripper. I have been a supporter since 1998, and I hope to be able to continue my support for as long as possible.

I do however want to mention that I am not a fan of SEC, NFT and now EX cards. It reminds me of what videogame companies do with loot boxes and other tech industry tactics to exploit people's ***** of missing out.
I am able to control myself and just skip these cards, but the long time colloctor in me is saddened by the fact that I have to forgo so many of these beautiful cards.

Again, this is not an attack. I just wanted to share my thoughts. I know that Totem will do what makes more financial sense for them, and I can understand that.

Oh well... c'est la vie.
TallandSlimMan
Mitglied seit in Apr 2008

463 Beiträge
17. November 2023
Totem does these things because they increase sales and/or profits. Profits and sales increase because members participate in these "events".

If these "events" stop generating sales and profits you can bet that totem will stop offering the events.

SEC, NFT, Ex cards and gambling games mean nothing to me. They have reduced my interest and purchases. But I am obviously in the minority.
Ironxside
Mitglied seit in Aug 2019

84 Beiträge
17. November 2023
@fallen0ne you're not the only one: there are at least two of us....

P.S. do you like my new t-shirt?
fallen0ne
Mitglied seit in Sep 2007

163 Beiträge
17. November 2023
@fallen0ne you're not the only one: there are at least two of us.... P.S. do you like my new t-shirt?

Ha, ha! I love your shirt @Ironxside
Benawi3
Mitglied seit in Dec 2017

9 Beiträge
17. November 2023 (edited)
My opinion may not weigh enough in comparison to you others, as my collection is relatively "small".
And I can also see why Totem does these events. I'm also participating in them on a regular basis, as I still have cards to collect that I want.

But this Event is completely ***** my interest in any of these "games". The amount of money going into this hobby already is not the smallest kind as it is.

@fallen0ne
I have been a supporter since 1998 (...).
(...) I do however want to mention that I am not a fan of SEC, NFT and now EX cards. It reminds me of what videogame companies do with loot boxes and other tech industry tactics to exploit people's ***** of missing out.

I was actually born in 1998. Since I grew up with actual video games such as Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, Star Craft, Warcraft 3, Age of Empires and so on; seeing these parallels establish everywhere is troubling me very much, as the impression prevails that this occurance will tend to keep on rising.
wrightsayswow
Mitglied seit in Jul 2020

1122 Beiträge
17. November 2023
SEC, NFT, Ex cards and gambling games mean nothing to me. They have reduced my interest and purchases. But I am obviously in the minority.
An ever growing minority though I bet.
Just want to buy shows, not play silly games!
ComteDracula
Mitglied seit in Aug 2017

1264 Beiträge
17. November 2023 (edited)
The problem is that even if people like you and me don't take part in these games and don't encourage them, there are plenty of others who will.

And Totem knows it. That's why it keeps going.

Gamers have won out over collectors who don't like games.

The most absurd thing about the EXs, if I understand correctly, is that they're going back on the pretext for which they created the Joker, and justifying their promotions, now almost exclusively through games. In other words, to make it possible to obtain cards that were only supposed to be available during the event and not afterwards.

Since some people wanted to have these cards, they created the Joker.

A real no-fun Joke after all.

Totem will do anything to siphon off your credits unnecessarily, in order to sell you more credits.

In short, the circle is complete.



Le problème c'est que même si des gens comme vous et moi ne participent pas à ces jeux et ne les encouragent pas, il y en a plein d'autres qui vont les encourager.

Et cela Totem le sait. C'est pourquoi ça continue.

Les gamers ont gagné sur les collectionneurs qui n'aiment pas les jeux.

Le plus absurde avec les EX, si je comprend bien, c'est qu'il revienne sur le prétexte pour lequel ils ont créé les Joker, et justifier leurs promotions, maintenant presque exclusivement par les jeux. Soit permettre d'obtenir des cartes qui ne devaient être disponibles que lors de l'évènement et non plus après.

Comme des gens voulaient avoir ces cartes, ils ont crée les Joker.

Une vraie Joke pas drôle finalement.

Comme quoi Totem est prêt à tout pour vous siphonner vos crédits inutilement pour vous en revendre d'autres.

En somme la boucle est bouclé.
muttonjeff
Mitglied seit in Nov 2008

749 Beiträge
17. November 2023
P.S. do you like my new t-shirt?
@Ironxside 👍👍👍 love it
mitchell
Mitglied seit in Jan 2010

256 Beiträge
17. November 2023
The problem is that even if people like you and me don't take part in these games and don't encourage them, there are plenty of others who will.


In short, the circle is complete.


It's the Circle of Life, and it rules us all. ;)
It won't rule me.
I have No FOMO!

But to each his own. Good luck to all the collectors and gamers who gotta catch them all.
Zedilt
Mitglied seit in Sep 2016

4 Beiträge
17. November 2023
Agree, not not a fan of the SEC, NFT and now EX cards.

Honesly not i'm suprised that we now have EX cards.
After the fail the was the NFTs, I was sure that there would be another sad attempt to from Totem Core to maximize the money extracted from their customers.

This is another attempt at Special Event cards, how long untill we see a Joker EX card because this concept is rejected by the user base?

mdekker
Mitglied seit in Oct 2007

99 Beiträge
17. November 2023
Once the SEC or Joker is reached and clicked to collect, the app says "Already Owned" and they do not show up in your collection (SEC stays in store section). Have to synchronize with servers manually in order to see them to your collection.
ComteDracula
Mitglied seit in Aug 2017

1264 Beiträge
17. November 2023
The problem is that even if people like you and me don't take part in these games and don't encourage them, there are plenty of others who will.


In short, the circle is complete.


It's the Circle of Life, and it rules us all. ;)
It won't rule me.
I have No FOMO!

But to each his own. Good luck to all the collectors and gamers who gotta catch them all.


Yes, Totem has understood the marketing strategy of the FOMO syndrome, which stands for ***** of Missing Out, and he applies it perfectly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_missing_out


Oui Totem a bien compris la statégie marketting du syndrome du FOMO, qui signifie ***** of missing out (« peur de rater quelque chose »), et il l'applique à merveille.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndrome_FOMO#R%C3%A9f%C3%A9rences
BushViper357
Mitglied seit in Sep 2013

85 Beiträge
17. November 2023
I always liked to keep my collection full. Now with the new EX card's not any more.
Evaneself
Mitglied seit in Dec 2019

332 Beiträge
17. November 2023 (edited)
I don't bet on games and I don't play games of chance. I tried once and started to lose.I am sticking with the usual cards. I have been following the comments of those who played for a long time and they are not good. A few win, most lose.
I also do not agree with the appearance of dozens of types of cards.
But, who I am to write? I'm not rich.
These practices are for rich people like at Las Vegas and so on....
I would ask Totem to stop doing things like this, to respect the little requests of the buyers.
Totem must understand that it is not difficult only for him in these times. It's also for us.
Now that all the cards have become more expensive, I buy less. It means less money for Totem.
Honestly, I'm sorry that people like me, who are not rich, have to *****.

It wil be a great idea to exist all the cards of 30 minutes at default prices and the same cards to be 45/55 minutes for the Ex, SEC, NFT categories.
imhorny5555
Mitglied seit in Jun 2008

39 Beiträge
17. November 2023
You can all pencil me in as a full collection owner who will no longer be persuing a full collection. As ComteDracular stated above they made the Joker an Immediately regretted it and are now back pedaling when their first FOMO failed.

The NFT's seem to be working for Totem but they are now trying to ***** a new type of NFT on users who don't want anything to do with them.

iStripper is no longer for fans of stripteases... it's for NFT bros and gambling *****.

Once my 3 Jokers and 1921.10 credits run out I'll continue to enjoy my collection and leave it there.
wtlonewolf20
Mitglied seit in Jun 2013

3 Beiträge
18. November 2023

not only is this a dumb money grab, it actively penalizes complete collection owners. if you own the full collection the only thjing you can play for is credits, gift cards, and joker cards. these can't be used for these new EX cards.... and the "event" tickets are useless to someone who owns a full collection. this is completely stupid.
MacNK7
Mitglied seit in Sep 2012

29 Beiträge
18. November 2023
I don't need to add anything to this..
willyweekly
Mitglied seit in Jul 2015

379 Beiträge
18. November 2023
Circle of life?
NEVER!!!
My plan is to live forever... and so far the plan is working out perfect...
aliencop
Mitglied seit in Sep 2009

20 Beiträge
18. November 2023
well this is total bullshit! totem you are getting too greedy! while i enjoy the scratch cards and the advent calendar, this totally *****! i know this is a business and you need to make money but if you continue with this nonsense the only exs you will have are exmembers!!
ComteDracula
Mitglied seit in Aug 2017

1264 Beiträge
18. November 2023 (edited)
What I think is a shame is that people aren't learning.

Just look at the number of people who will flock to these games, which always have bugs along the way, with their share of frustrations.

Proud to have spent unnecessary credits on their exclusive EX card, or to have spent large sums of money to obtain the credits needed to obtain the tickets. (EX and SEC).

We'll never see the last of these projects and cards.

Discouraging.

I won't add anything more, as everything has already been said.

After the SECs, the NFTs, history repeats itself with the EX Cards, until the next project.


Ce que je trouve dommage dans cette histoire, c'est que les gens n'apprennent pas.

Regardez bien le nombre de gens qui vont se ruer pour participer à ces jeux, qui ont toujours des bogues en passant, avec son lot de frustrations.

Tout fier d'avoir dépensé inutilement des crédits pour leur carte EX exclusive, ou d'avoir dépenser de grosses sommes d'argent pour se procurer les crédits nécessaire à l'obtention des tickets, pour les obtenir. (EX et SEC).

On n'a pas finit de voir apparaître ce genre de projets et cartes.

Décourageant.

Je n'en rajouterais pas, puisque tout a été dit.

Après les SEC, les NFT, l'histoire se répète avec les Cartes EX, et ce, jusqu'au prochain projet.
HansSachs
Mitglied seit in Mar 2016

984 Beiträge
18. November 2023
I have to start of by saying that this post is not an attack.
I absolutely love Team Totem. I love the software.
After the disclaimer, my 2c:
  • I am ok with SECs
  • I am ok with NFTs,
but
  • I think the new membership level at 3000+ (which means a lot of money spent on this software) should be rewarded getting to the same card price triple diamonds used to have until 2023, nothing less,
  • I am very unhappy about the concept itself of EX cards.
njarnb
Mitglied seit in Nov 2008

76 Beiträge
18. November 2023
EXs, SECs, NFTs are for my part to expensive to obtain (adding the increase in pricing on cards), and I will not pursue anymore.
I 'm here for Fun and Relief.
Not for peoples exploiting FOMO.
s191417nq
Mitglied seit in Mar 2020

48 Beiträge
18. November 2023
Essentially the FOMO (***** of missing out) marketing is just to create artificial sense of crisis in order to capitalize on users who are vulnerable to it.

Let me be frank, I ***** being exploited. I buy cards solely because I like them. Nobody wants to be ***** into a psychological game of FOMO especially when the prices are so much more inflated comparing to the former SECs.
njarnb
Mitglied seit in Nov 2008

76 Beiträge
18. November 2023
If there wasn't so many whale falling into obvious trap like thoose games for EXclusive cards...
There isn't any good games implying great amounts of money waisted to be fun.
IStripper is a virtual strip club not some kind of game.
Why waisting money when all I want is pay to see!!!
At reasonable prices of course...
ComteDracula
Mitglied seit in Aug 2017

1264 Beiträge
18. November 2023 (edited)
The only thing to do for me, my needs and my monetary means. Only buy regular cards. Take advantage of the credits given during promotions to buy 20% credits, for example. And get the SEC for free only when you buy all the cards in a month. For example, this year, the Melena Maria Rya card with the purchase of the Advent calendar.

In my case, I avoid all games and the others SEC, and now EX cards. Last year and the year before I played the game 1 time, because the progress bar was half full with the purchase of the advent calendar. I'll see what I decide this year. The girl will have to be really worth it, because I ***** games and don't enjoy playing them. Otherwise, I'll pass. NFTs are non-existent for me. I ***** anything to do with cryptocurrency.

As for the rest, I enjoy the release of the pretty woman (regular card) every day, and that's more than enough for me. It's my little pleasure of the day. 😊

For the others let them do what they want and so much the better for Totem, if they want to contribute to enrich them. But I don't like this way of doing things to make money.


La seule chose à faire pour moi, mes besoins et mes moyens monétaires. N'acheter que les cartes régulières. Profiter des crédits donnés lors des promotions d'achat de crédits à 20% par exemple. Et obtenir la SEC gratuitement seulement à l'achat de toutes les cartes d'un mois. Par exemple cette *****ée, celle de Melena Maria Rya avec l'achat du calendrier de l'avent.

Dans mon cas j'évite tout ce qui est jeux, et l'obtention de SEC et maintenant carte EX, à partir de ceux-ci. L'an passé et l'autre *****ée auparavant j'ai participé au jeu 1 fois, car la barre de progression était rempli de moitié avec l'achat du calendrier de l'avent. Je vais voir ce que je vais décider cette *****ée. Il va falloir que la fille en vaille vraiment la peine, car je déteste les jeux, et n'éprouve aucun plaisir à y jouer. Sinon je vais passer mon tour. Les NFT sont inexistantes pour moi. Je déteste tout ce qui est en lien à la cryptomonnaie.

Pour le reste je profite de la sortie de la jolie femme (carte régulière) à tous les jours, et cela me suffit amplement. C'est mon petit plaisir de la journée. 😊

Pour les autres qu'ils fassent ce qu'ils veulent et tant mieux pour Totem, s'ils veulent contribuer à les enrichir. Mais je n'aime pas cette façon d'agir pour faire de l'argent.
orclover
Mitglied seit in Jun 2012

744 Beiträge
18. November 2023 (edited)
I have no problem with totem taking steps to increase production in order to provide a diversity of card options. They have every right to create an exclusive group of people who pay thousands a year to own every card. My main issue is and has been if the actual Istripper product ***** or becomes price prohibitive. The only complaint beyond the product getting more expensive is if we see more situations like the recent Carla Vyxx. She is arguably the hottest and most talented girl to come out in the last 6 months. She shot 6 cards:
1. SEC
2. 36 credit Costume Card
3. 30 Credit Istripper Card
4. 36 Credit Costume Card
5. SEC, EX or 36 Costume Card for Christmas
6. NFT

Keep in mind Carla only had 4 cards available from her first shooting because of SEC and NFT. So of the 6 cards they shot in the 2nd round only one of them is a normal price card, 2 are 40% more expensive than we would have paid for a normal card back on September 1st, and three are locked behind paywalls. In comparison, a girl like Argus who is new, seems great, but has 6 normal istripper cards. So is Istripper as a product just going to become new, inexperienced girls, with a starlet sprinkled in at normal price every once in a while?
rhea
Mitglied seit in Dec 2019

19 Beiträge
18. November 2023 (edited)
I completely know that my personal 2 cents don’t really matter, but honestly, I’m getting more and more disillusioned like everyone here. First the whole NFT stuff, and now this ... I mean, the last years I always got the SEC during Black Friday only by loading up my credits accordingly (mostly 2 times for the 1000 credits) and additionally buying the advent calendar, but this year, oh boy. Even when doing this I can’t get to the first tier. My problem is that now spent credits don’t count anymore and instead the so-called “Quest-system” was implemented, which honestly sucks as hell for the rest (and no, loading up your credits won’t work infinitely like others said). Seriously, it’s so obvious that all mechanics were just toned up to make everything harder for your FOMO. But alright, as a personal choice I’ll definitely spend less now in the future, and only buy stuff that I like in heavy discount situations (the steep general price increase for old cards is another issue). Anyway, I just ***** when I’m feeling manipulated, and actually I’m only staying onboard because I love this app and the girls so much. But alright, I‘ll get by while just missing some FOMO stuff (after all I have other more important hobbies as well).
njarnb
Mitglied seit in Nov 2008

76 Beiträge
18. November 2023
The girl will have to be really worth it, because I ***** games and don't enjoy playing them.

For my part I don't ***** free games, I ***** random reward games with my Money.
I'm not in a casino, am I?

I'm not a billionaire that can waist large amount of money on games, plus that progress bar is always more expensive to fill up, while, which is for my part the worst, still not showing how much money to invest to fill it up.
cfrec2
Mitglied seit in Mar 2012

41 Beiträge
19. November 2023 (edited)
would be hilarious if this unobtainable card counts towards the total, thus gating elite behind a smaller minority, the 1% of the 1% 👎

this years black friday event is a ridiculous credit burner, made by those who shake hands with fists full of green.
i highly doubt any of them use the product they push or even QA the events properly.

(id be thrilled to never see thrill spin ever again... its not thrilling when its an obvious rig)
Ben_089
Mitglied seit in Dec 2018

4 Beiträge
19. November 2023
EX card is wayyyyyy too expensive and the games make the pay wall even higher (kept losing in thrill spin)

Too much frustration😟

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