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New update broke Playlist managers. Why no warning?

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charliefoxtrott
Mitglied seit in Jun 2009

33 Beiträge
12. July 2023
I guess, I'm probably the only one who cares about this, but I post it here anyway: Why didn't we get a warning that the new iStripper versions will break third party tools like Starryks playlist manager? I would never have upgraded if I would have known this!

I'm sorry to say, but the vanilla iStripper player sucks!! It's so old and basic and there haven't been any new features for years! With vanilla I can't filter certain clips or let it play e.g. real progressive hotness, which follows the "eroticism" of a card (like 1 random clip no nudity, then 1 random clip topless, then 1 random clip nudity ...), which would simulate a real striptease. Instead we only get the option to define the length of each card that gets played and that's it.

I don't understand why advanced player features like what Starryks playlist manager offers haven't been implemented. Instead we only get cosmetic changes update after update. Of course I like the new look, but it doesn't offer any new functionality for the experience.

Sorry, I'm quite passionate about this, because I've been using Starryks player for like ages and now it just gets broken by yet another cosmetic update. Would have been nice to know this in advance.
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Mitglied seit in Mar 2008

3909 Beiträge
12. July 2023
Sent a reply on the iStripper Discord Server.

If / when there is an Update / Change to the iStripper app.
any 3rd party apps, will have to Adapt to the changes in iStripper.

Over the Years, iStripper has made some accommodations to continue to allow
bi-Directional communication between the iStripper app and the 3rd party apps, Via the Registry and certain files in the data folder.

This has been very accommodating on the part of iStripper.

It is then up to the 3rd party app developer, to Maintain their app and adjust to the changes.

While iStripper does not document these changes, ***** things are easy to discover
and then the 3rd party app developer can tweak their app for the changes.

We, the 3rd party app developers are Not reverse Enginering the vghd.exe file.
we examine the structure of the Models.lst file, the Names.xml file, and the individual XML files in the data folders.
Some read and inventory the files in the Models Folders to get the list of clips.
We also exchange data through the Registry Keys that iStripper has Maintained that we can use.

If not for these files and registry Keys, 3rd Party apps would NOT exist.

It should also be noted that:
No Modification of the iStripper app is being done, and No Modification of the Files in the data folder is being done.



charliefoxtrott
Mitglied seit in Jun 2009

33 Beiträge
12. July 2023
Thanks Wyldanimal, that's some helpful info. I just hope that Starryk will update his playlist manager, but I somehow doubt it, because he hasn't been active for quite some time.

I just find it frustrating that Totem, through all these updates, hasn't been able to actually improve the player functionality of the app. I just wonder that one user, that doesn't even have the source code, has been able to implement so many missing features. That shows that it should theoretically be possible to improve the player. But somehow this doesn't seem to be in the focus of Totem's development. Maybe the much hyped "iStripper 2.0" will have it? That's my hope.

Meanwhile I find the vanilla playmode of the app just frustrating ... no real striptease, the predefined time just gets dumped with random clips, even progressive hotness does cut off after the time has been filled with no-nudity or topless clips.
Dfner
Mitglied seit in Feb 2018

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Dorsai6
Mitglied seit in Apr 2013

1028 Beiträge
13. July 2023
As of the last beta, my Playlist Generator had a flaw. It was hard coded for only one version of the models.lst file. I posted a patch that fixes the problem in the Bugs and Fixes section, but I haven't uploaded a corrected version. With the new beta I need to test to see if there are any other problems before I upload a new version.
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012

3309 Beiträge
13. July 2023 (edited)
even progressive hotness does cut off after the time has been filled with no-nudity or topless clips.

Not if you set the show duration sliders (there are separate ones for the Desktop and Full Screen Scene modes) all the way to the right or if you use the Play All Clips option when playing a single card. If you want to see all of a show don't leave iStripper configured to stop after a couple of minutes.
charliefoxtrott
Mitglied seit in Jun 2009

33 Beiträge
13. July 2023
@charliefoxtrottI recommend @Dorsai6 's access app:
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/44539/1?post=659323I
Alles über iStripper / Dorsai's Playlist Generator
I have just uploaded a revised and improved version of my Playlist Generator to @Wyldanimal's web site. It can be downloaded from https://virtuastripper.net/files/Playlist_Generator.zip This vers...
just updated to 1.2.520 (64-bit) and this application still works like a charm, as before the update.

Hey thanks! This could just be the solution for my problem: I could generate a playlist with @Dorsai6 's Playlist generator and then play the .vpl file with Starryks playlist manager. That should theoretically work, as the Playlist manager still can read .vpl files. I had set it to "entire collection", which doesn't work beacuse of the new structure of the models.lst file.

even progressive hotness does cut off after the time has been filled with no-nudity or topless clips.Not if you set the show duration sliders (there are separate ones for the Desktop and Full Screen Scene modes) all the way to the right or if you use the Play All Clips option when playing a single card. If you want to see all of a show don't leave iStripper configured to stop after a couple of minutes.

Yes, but then iStripper would fill the preset time with several clips of the same level. This especially happens with the older Deskbabes cards, where there are cards that have a lot of very short, someteimes only 30 seconds clips.
I want it to play a play a striptease, beginning with one clip of the lowest "eroticism level", then proceding through one clip of each level and ending with the highest, usually x-rated, clip. As it is now, vanilla sometimes does exactly that, especially with the newer cards and with the right duration, but with older cards you either only get one eroticism level (long individual clips) or several of the same level (short individual clips).
TheEmu
Mitglied seit in Jul 2012

3309 Beiträge
13. July 2023 (edited)
I want it to play a play a striptease, beginning with one clip of the lowest "eroticism level", then proceding through one clip of each level and ending with the highest, usually x-rated, clip.

I absolutely agree, and have ***** about that myself on several occasions - but it's not what you wrote in your original post. Have you tried with Progressive Hotness being UNCHECKED.

At one time the program appeared to me to handle this aspect rather better but for a few release it seemed to switch between the "good" and "bad" orders with each new version before settling down to the current "bad" order.

At the very least Totem should be able to play the clips in something like the following order

    All of the Pole clips
    All of the Cage clips
    All of the Swing clips
    All of the Edge Of Screen clips
    All of the Glass clips
    All of the Standing clips
    All of the Table clips

while, in each case, using Progressive Hotness to order the clips within each clip type - and they can probably do something better than that.

This should preferably be accompanied by that other oft requested feature, the ability to enable/disable the individual clip types (Recently Celine has stated that this is on the To Do list, which is long awaited acknowledgement of the request).
charliefoxtrott
Mitglied seit in Jun 2009

33 Beiträge
13. July 2023
I want it to play a play a striptease, beginning with one clip of the lowest "eroticism level", then proceding through one clip of each level and ending with the highest, usually x-rated, clip.
I absolutely agree, and have ***** about that myself on several occasions - but it's not what you wrote in your original post. Have you tried with Progressive Hotness being UNCHECKED.

At one time the program appeared to me to handle this aspect rather better but for a few release it seemed to switch between the "good" and "bad" orders with each new version before settling down to the current "bad" order.

Hey Emu! Yes, I‘ve tried leaving progressive hotness unchecked as well. The app then just choses random clips from any level to fill the pre set time.
charliefoxtrott
Mitglied seit in Jun 2009

33 Beiträge
13. July 2023
Ooookay, I've just found out that I can produce a playlist in the app by ***** my entire collection into the playlist tab and then save it. Then I still can use Playlist manager to play it like before, just by chosing "playlist" as an input source and using the saved .vpl file. I've always used "entire collection" as an input source before, so I assumed everything was broken by the new update when the player couldn't read the models list. But apparently all .vpl files can still be read by the Manager.

Phew! I'm glad I can still enjoy iStripper like before. But I really hope that Totem will bring a new update with improved player functionality.

Case closed.

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