This is a complaint related to the commercial politic of iStripper.
First, of all, I'm a really big fan. I am a customer for years now. And I'm really enjoying making the collection of sexy girls on my computer...
But... About the special card for this week, I really think this is unfair.
I have the entire collection(yes, every single card), and to get the special card, I have to play games where I wouldn't get any discounts on cards(I have already all of them!!!)
So it means I don't have any opportunity to get the special card this week...

I'm sure I'm not the only one who's facing this issue... If, like me, you feel frustrated about it, send me a message to console me...

@DVil I see you are indeed a collector, but not one for comments until now. So you must really be annoyed, and you are not alone. Perhaps you missed all the discussion earlier this week. There are many other threads on the subject, but no solutions so far.

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/47482/2?post=708422

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@DVil
Tu peux tout de même jouer à la machine à sous, je pense, mais la carte risque de te couter pas mal. Attention le tgif se termine demain 9h00. Ou faire comme moi et attendre une meilleure opportunité.😉

Bienvenue @DVil dans le club des collectionneurs insatisfaits.

C'est surprenant, en effet que vous ne soyez pas intervenu plus tôt, avec tous les débats qu'il y a eu sur le sujet.

Un conseil, ne jouez pas à ces jeux, vous allez vous faire vider vos crédits inutilement.

Avec l'expérience, je peux vous dire que cela ne vaut pas la peine.

Totem a pris goût à l'argent facile, avec leurs SEC et leurs jeux, et nous les collectionneurs ne pesons pas lourd dans la balance, malheureusement.


Welcome @DVil to the club of dissatisfied collectors.

It's surprising, indeed, that you didn't intervene earlier, with all the debates there have been on the subject.

A piece of advice, don't play these games, you'll get your credits drained unnecessarily.

With experience, I can tell you that it is not worth it.

Totem has taken a liking to easy money, with their SEC and their games, and we collectors don't weigh much in the balance, unfortunately.

The Slot Machine gives you chances to Win Credits.
On Average, I have come out ahead or Close to Neutral when playing the Slot machine
all while advancing the Progress bar.
One Member figured that it takes 1500 credits of Play, to advance to get the SEC card.
But with the Credit Winnings, what you invest may be Much less..

But yes, some of the TGIF events are NOT targeted at Members with Full Collections, and Thus
should be Passed on / not played.

it is after all, the members free choice.

iStripper has close to two years worth of Data from the TGIF events.
it obviously has been successful for them, or they wouldn't continue.

Remember this.
Members whit Full Collections are no longer the ones who actively Spend the Most.
So it's reasonable to believe the Games are targeted at Newer members who have the most number of cards to purchase

A full Collection can only purchase 30 cards in a month.
While a New member could purchase 4500 cards in that same month.

As a business, who would you target the Incentives towards?

It doesn't make full collection members less important, it just means we are not as Profitable
so target the Audience where you can make your most Profit from .

We the Collectors are rewarded in many different ways.
We have the Highest Discount which we enjoy on every purchase.
and we get the extra 20% New release Bonus on top of that.

So lets not ignore the rewards we get, just because the TGIF event isn't targeted at us.

Also it probably is best to become a member before you have much of a collection to maximize the benefits I imagine. If I had a better connection I might upgrade.

👍

For a collector, risking 1500 credits for an SEC card or a Joker card, with the hope of reducing our losses by earning credits, which are less generous (50 credits instead of 100 credits, as it happened for us for scratch cards, the last time I played to get a Joker card from a progress bar), is still a big risk to get a single SEC card.

I actually saw the negative result for me last time. There is a saying: "Scalded cat, ***** cold water". (I don't know if the English translation for this saying is accurate. Sorry if it isn't, as I use a translator).

I just think about a member who said he lost 600 credits, trying to reach the SEC through the progress bar, and couldn't get it because he had no money to buy credits, being on unemployment.

https://www.istripper.com/fr/forum/thread/47520/1?post=708379

Du bist nicht befugt dieses Thema zu sehen oder auf mit dem Thema verwandte Daten zuzugreifen

Let's not forget that behind the credits, there is money, and sometimes the devaluation of our currencies against the US dollar or the euro. This means that a loan already costs us more than a European or an American, for example.

Precisely, as Totem has the statistics, could it be that they adapt the rules to be less generous to the players, and more to their advantage?

In the current system, I still believe that the big collectors, do not have much advantage to play these games to get SEC, which let's say, have increased in frequency. This is not without reason.

I see more and more SEC's as the hook seeking to catch the fish/consumer.

Also, if we are paying less for our cards, it is because the system is made that way. The more we buy, the less expensive the cards are, depending on the level we reach. In addition, we are charged for 4K, being Premium, which must compensate to some extent for Totem.

I know we will be told that nobody is obliged to play.

It's true and that's good, because it's not my intention.

But that still doesn't solve the problem of collectors and the messages that are added to this subject. Which, at least, does not seem to bother Totem at all.


Pour un collectionneur, risquer 1500 crédits pour une carte SEC ou une carte Joker, avec l'espoir de diminuer nos pertes par des gains de crédits, qui sont moins généreux (des 50 crédits plutôt que des 100 crédits, comme cela s'est passé pour nous pour les cartes à gratter, la dernière fois que j'ai joué pour obtenir une carte Joker à partir d'une barre de progression.), c'est tout de même un grand risque pour obtenir une seule carte SEC.

J'ai d'ailleurs pu constater le résultat négatif pour moi la dernière fois. Un dicton dit : "Chat échaudé, craint l'eau froide". (Je ne sais pas si la traduction anglaise pour ce dicton est exact. Désolé si ce n'est pas le cas, car j'utilise un traducteur.)

Je repense juste à un membre qui a dit avoir perdu 600 crédits, en voulant atteindre la SEC par la barre de progression, et qui n'avait pu l'avoir n'ayant plus de sous pour acheter des crédits, étant sur le chômage.

https://www.istripper.com/fr/forum/thread/47520/1?post=708379

Du bist nicht befugt dieses Thema zu sehen oder auf mit dem Thema verwandte Daten zuzugreifen

N'oublions pas que derrière les crédits, il y a de l'argent, et parfois la dévalorisation de nos monnaies par rapport au dollar américain ou l'euro. Ce qui fait qu'un crédit nous coûte déjà plus cher, qu'un Européen ou un Américain, par exemple.

Justement, comme Totem dispose des statistiques, se pourrait-il qu'ils adaptent les règles pour que cela soit moins généreux pour les joueurs, et que ce soit plus à leur avantage ?

Dans le système actuel, je continue à croire que les grands collectionneurs, n'ont pas grand avantage à jouer à ces jeux pour obtenir des SEC, qui disons le, ont augmenté en fréquence. Ce n'est pas sans raison.

Je vois de plus en plus les SEC comme l'hameçon cherchant à capturer le poisson / consommateur.

De plus si nous payons nos cartes moins cher, c'est parce que c'est le système qui est fait ainsi. Plus on achète, moins les cartes sont dispendieuses, selon le niveau atteint. De plus on nous fait payer le 4K, en étant Premium, ce qui doit compenser jusqu'à un certain point pour Totem.

Je sais on va nous répondre que personne n'est obligé de jouer.

C'est vrai et c'est tant mieux, car ce n'est pas mon intention.

Mais cela ne règle toujours pas le problème des collectionneurs et des messages qui s'ajoutent à ce sujet. Ce qui du moins, ne semble aucunement déranger Totem.

Every month there is the system generated list of who has most shows, comments last month about how the order of it is worked out, but it all seems to be automated. I think it would be a very good idea for ONLY those on the list with full collections (or over a certain number 4750 perhaps now) to be allowed to just purchase SECs like any other card, may be priced higher still, rather than almost being ***** into the games. It would also encourage others to get to that cut off point, bit like when we started going up the loyalty levels. This level is surely the ultimate loyalty level - what rare element could it be called - Neptunium perhaps?
I am sure this has been suggested before - just could not face searching for it this late.

I did suggest something similar to what @wrightsayswow is bringing to you, on another thread, that the big collectors could buy the cards at a higher cost than usual, which might encourage people to reach that level, to be able to buy these SEC cards, but unfortunately, as is too often the case, it is other members who are looking for Totem to tell us why this would probably not be possible. As if they know the answer for themselves, rather than having clear answers from Totem.


J'ai pour ma part suggéré quelquechose de similaire à ce que vous apporter @wrightsayswow, sur un autre fil de discussion, comme quoi les grands collectionneurs pourraient acheter les cartes à un coût plus cher que le coût habituel, ce qui pourrait encourager les gens à atteindre ce niveau, pour pouvoir acheter ces cartes SEC, mais malheureusement, comme cela s'avère trop souvent le cas, se sont d'autres membres qui cherchent à la place de Totem à nous dire pourquoi ce ne serait probablement pas possible. Comme s'ils savaient la réponse à leur place, plutôt que d'avoir des réponses claires de Totem.

"What have you done for me lately?" lol

That's who the cards are geared towards, as was mentioned. People that have every card, you already have a ton of cards and that's your reward lol... makes no sense.

The SEC should at least be available for purchase for those who have full collection.. that being said I DO NOT have a full collection nor desire one, it just seems a little unfair to those long time, loyal members. None of my business so I'm not even sure why I commented lol, just bugged me.

The house always wins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLFmbE6Maa8

😊😈

Very good @Number6 👍 😈

When you have some jokers it's not bad having all the cards 😜

When you have some jokers it's not bad having all the cards 😜

@batavus that's nice for you then. Unfortunately it seems access even to winning jokers is being denied to us for another week and who know how many after that.